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[beef] ATTN: Dudes that lift

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[Mar 16,2009 12:29pm - xmikex ""]
What kind of lifting gloves do you use? I had a pair of cheapo Harbinger ones that I got for like $10 at the Sports Authority. They got the job done I guess. I lost them recently, and it's a total pain in the ass to do things like bent over rows and deadlifts without them.

Any endorsements?
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[Mar 16,2009 12:31pm - W3 @ work  ""]
I'm Seinfeld and only use the machines
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[Mar 16,2009 12:38pm - xmikex ""]
LAME.
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[Mar 16,2009 12:39pm - W3 @ work  ""]
yeah I know, but pizza is good to me.
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[Mar 16,2009 12:41pm - RichHorror ""]
Only people that don't suffer [i.e. enjoy] chronic masturbation need gloves.
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[Mar 16,2009 12:44pm - niccolai ""]
i just use boxing wraps.
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[Mar 16,2009 12:47pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde  ""]
Lifting chalk works.
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[Mar 16,2009 12:53pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
I prefer honey and broken glass.
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[Mar 16,2009 12:56pm - SapremiaNJ ""]
I have been lifting for 15 years, i originally was a bodybuilder, now im a power lifter because i like food too much. The best thing to use is your bare hands. Seriously....

It will help your grip strength and your forearm strength. Do all movements without wraps or gloves, in the end you will thank me. Chalk is cool if your a naturally sweat dude, helps the grip from slipping.
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[Mar 16,2009 12:57pm - xmikex ""]
Rich,
Not everyone's penis is made out of gravel and fire ants.

Nicc,
That's not a bad idea. Essentially it's the same thing, only I feel like it'd chew up my boxing wraps.

Mike,
That'd be cool except there a huge "NO CHALK" sign in the free weights section at my gym.

DYA,
You are not Charlie Sheen in Hot Shots Part Duex.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:01pm - SUGE KNIGHT  ""]
I SAY JUST SHOOT THEM WEIGHTS AND SHOW'EM WHO'S THA MUTHAFUCKIN DAWG NOW BOSS.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:01pm - RichHorror ""]
Hang the weights over a balcony until they agree to sign some paperwork.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:04pm - anonymous  ""]

RichHorror said:Hang the weights over a balcony until they agree to sign some paperwork.


this for the lawlz.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:05pm - xmikex ""]

SapremiaNJ said:I have been lifting for 15 years, i originally was a bodybuilder, now im a power lifter because i like food too much. The best thing to use is your bare hands. Seriously....

It will help your grip strength and your forearm strength. Do all movements without wraps or gloves, in the end you will thank me. Chalk is cool if your a naturally sweat dude, helps the grip from slipping.



Interesting food for thought.

Let me ask your opinion though. When don't use gloves, and I do pulling exercises like I mentioned above, I feel like I have more trouble getting all my reps in because my hands cramp up. Would you recommend dropping 5-10 lbs until my grip strengthens?

I've been going for strength rather than muscle gains, and concentrating on lifting as much as possible in a small amount of reps. So it'd kind of suck to drop any weight. But then again I have been trying to work on my grip.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:08pm - the_reverend ""]
gloves are for pussies. I always look for the roughest bar that I can find. it's the only thing that I do in life to give myself calluses. with that said, I finally figured out what I do to hurt my back at the gym. I use the chest press and do a set of 180 then 140 then 170 theb 140 then 160 then 140. when I do 180, it scoots me up in the chair and I have to wiggle back down holding 180. that's where I hurt it.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:09pm - the_reverend ""]
plus, gloves = hands that smell like feet.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:12pm - the_reverend ""]
my problem is muscle stamina and when to eat more protein in regards to lifting to make any difference. It seems like a lot of the times, I rule through reps 1-8 and then 9/10, I lose all power.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:12pm - xmikex ""]

the_reverend said:gloves are for pussies. I always look for the roughest bar that I can find. it's the only thing that I do in life to give myself calluses. with that said, I finally figured out what I do to hurt my back at the gym. I use the chest press and do a set of 180 then 140 then 170 theb 140 then 160 then 140. when I do 180, it scoots me up in the chair and I have to wiggle back down holding 180. that's where I hurt it.


A. That's called drop sets.... sort of.
B. If it hurts, stop it.
C. Nobody using a chest press machine is allowed to call anyone else a pussy. Bench presses, free weights. FTW.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:12pm - the_reverend ""]
and I'm not above injecting cretin into my dickhole if I have to.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:13pm - the_reverend ""]
creitin... why did spell check change thatto cretin?
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[Mar 16,2009 1:14pm - the_reverend ""]
I can't bench press cause my arms fall asleep after 7 reps.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:19pm - RichHorror ""]
Then you are a woman.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:21pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I bought gloves once and used them maybe 3 times then said fuck it. Sometimes it sucks using your bare hands but it does get easier as time progresses.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:32pm - SapremiaNJ ""]

xmikex said:
SapremiaNJ said:I have been lifting for 15 years, i originally was a bodybuilder, now im a power lifter because i like food too much. The best thing to use is your bare hands. Seriously....

It will help your grip strength and your forearm strength. Do all movements without wraps or gloves, in the end you will thank me. Chalk is cool if your a naturally sweat dude, helps the grip from slipping.



Interesting food for thought.

Let me ask your opinion though. When don't use gloves, and I do pulling exercises like I mentioned above, I feel like I have more trouble getting all my reps in because my hands cramp up. Would you recommend dropping 5-10 lbs until my grip strengthens?

I've been going for strength rather than muscle gains, and concentrating on lifting as much as possible in a small amount of reps. So it'd kind of suck to drop any weight. But then again I have been trying to work on my grip.



Yes, the best thing to do is drop the weight a bit until you can control it with your natural grip. Dont worry about what the weight it, it only sucks in your head because you are used to doing that weight. You will be way better off getting your grip stronger in the long run.

Pyramid workouts may even be better for you to gain strength that you are looking for.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:32pm - xmikex ""]

the_reverend said:I can't bench press cause my arms fall asleep after 7 reps.


So do less reps. Lift as much as you can lift with good form in 5 reps. Rest then do 5 total sets of it. Not everything has to be 3 sets of 12.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:39pm - xmikex ""]

the_reverend said:my problem is muscle stamina and when to eat more protein in regards to lifting to make any difference. It seems like a lot of the times, I rule through reps 1-8 and then 9/10, I lose all power.


Muscle exhaustion is natural. You get tired at the end of your work day right? Same thing with your muscles. Experiment with different programs. Depending on how much you're lifting, how many sets etc. 10 reps might be a lot for you.

And as far as protein and eating, the answer is constantly. If I'm going to do a lot of lifting I'll drink Whey protein a half hour before I goto the gym, 5 ml of creatine serum right before I leave, another glass of Whey protein as soon as I get home, and a glass of muscle milk before bed. Cardio helps move all that stuff through your system.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:40pm - the_reverend ""]
this took me a while to write down.

my standard work out:
I row for 10-20 minutes to get warmed up.
then go to the weight room
1) pull down bar, arms out, palms down 120lbs x10
2) dips my weight x10
3) pull down bar,arms in, palms up x10
4) repeat 1-3 x3

5) chest press (180,140,170,140,160,140)

6) front pec machine
http://www.carleton.edu/curricular/PEAR/IM...sCenter0/Pics/Pectoral-Fly-open.jpg
120lbs x10
7) back delts (same machine) 80lbs x10
8) repeat 6&7 x3

9) cable machine: lat presses 100lbs x10
http://www.lose-weight-coach.com/images/1CableMachinePushdown.jpg
10) cable machine: 2 handed curls 75lbs x10
11) repeat 9&10 x 4

12) cable machine: one hand like this:
http://www.impulsepower.com/images/exercises/Image88.jpg
pulling down in front of me 45lbs x10 right x10 left
13) cable machine: pull cable across my chest rotating elbow 15lbs x10 right x10 left
http://www.impulsepower.com/images/exercises/Image64.jpg
14) repeat 12&14 x3

15) free weights: lat press? it's where you bring the weight down behind your head just got to 50lbs x10
16) free weights: bent over curls 35lbs x10 right x10 left
17) repeat 15&16 x3

18) free weights: pull overs 35lbs x10
19) free weights: "skull crushers" bar + 5lbs x10
20) repeat 18&19 x3

21) cable machine: one arm curls 35lbs x5 right x5 left x5 right x5 left
22) cable machine: one arm pull across chest twisting at waist 75lbs x10 right x10 left
This one bugs me cause it makes my love handles stick out more afterwards... but it works one of the muscles in my forearm.
23) repeat 21&22 x3

24) cable machine: one arm shrugs 90lbs x10 right x10 left
25) cable machine: pull over head 75lbs x10 right x10 left
http://www.impulsepower.com/images/exercises/Image77.jpg
that with 2 hands
26) repeat 24&25 x3

Then I swim for a while to stretch/relax.

Last time I added this
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Artic...4718026/preacher-curl-main_Full.jpg
which I will probably do from now on.

And if the weight room is empty... I take the 15lbs padded bar and spin it around from left hand to right hand. sounds gay, but it makes my shoulders burn like crazy.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:42pm - the_reverend ""]
I used to do creatine... and it might be in my head, but I recovered much quicker, but the stuff that I have sucks. it's like drinking silica packets.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:46pm - SapremiaNJ ""]
Creatine is not in your head Rev, it works great. Helps build muscle and strength and aids tremendously in recovery. I stack it with glutamine and take the sufficient aminos and potassium needed as well.

I love Cell Tech, the cherry flavor tastes pretty decent.
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[Mar 16,2009 1:47pm - SapremiaNJ ""]
Oh, and all that is needed is 5 grams daily. They will tell you to load and use 10 grams, but studies show that is wasteful and provide no extra gains over a normal 5 gram/day dosage. Three months on, two months off....
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[Mar 16,2009 1:54pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:I prefer honey and broken glass.


glassterbation is king
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[Mar 16,2009 1:54pm - the_reverend ""]
So.. I try to do the above routine just once a week (either sunday or tuesday). Then when I go to the gym the other days, I try to not to as much weight. less weight, more reps and I try to spend longer on the rower and in the pool, but I always get bored and then end up just following the routine I have above. I have a feeling this tuesday, my back is going to hurt too much, but I will be there. all that stuff above is 20 minutes rowing, 1.5hr in the weights, and then 30 minutes in the pool/hot tub.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:14pm - largefreakatzero ""]
Sorry dude, but lifting gloves are for girls. I went bare hand until tendonitis got too bad -- now I use wrist wraps which work quite well and will keep you from getting laughed out of the gym.

This is the only creatine worth a shit: http://www.proteinpowderplus.com/servlet/t...40/Kre-Alkalyn-Infusion-16oz/Detail
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[Mar 16,2009 2:17pm - largefreakatzero ""]
Rev & Mike, try mixing up your bench press workout with some "pause-presses" powerlifting style. Bring the bar down, rest on your chest for a couple seconds, then press. It can be quite humbling but will build power. Sapremia dude will know what I mean.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:22pm - W3 @ work  ""]
man my work out sucks lol

i run for 30 mins and then do 3 different weight machines
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[Mar 16,2009 2:25pm - SapremiaNJ ""]
I surely do, very tough. Especially if you do them as negatives and as heavy as you can, train that way when i used to do bench contests.

I didnt want to get too technical on them and such. Figuring they are at the building the muscle stage and what not.

Cell Tech creatine always works for me, Muscletech products have be good to me altogether.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:38pm - the_reverend ""]
my problem with stuff like that is checking to see if there are animal products in it.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:39pm - largefreakatzero ""]
Yeah, the pause-presses humbled me pretty good -- I went from "cheat-pressing" (a healthy chest-bounce) close to 365 for 1 to struggling with 315 on a press that would be good in a meet. I weigh in at 250, so my meager 315 bench will not do shit in a meet -- a guy from my gym just did 440 raw at a meet and he weighed in @ 219!

I probably mispoke on the creatine -- the powders do work, but with the Sci-fit Infusion, you are only taking a small amount rather than having to mix and chug a glass of that foul-tasting shit. You can actually feel the Infusion stuff hit you right after you take it, which is pretty cool. I will go on a cycle of that next week probably.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:40pm - largefreakatzero ""]

the_reverend said:my problem with stuff like that is checking to see if there are animal products in it.


Cat-a-tine?

Don't worry dude, weird chemicals only, no animals.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:42pm - the_reverend ""]
I honestly have no idea why I'm working out. I know that I never did before and that I made fun of people who worked out. Now, I've have the must amount of muscles that I've ever had in my life. Sort of weird.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:46pm - the_reverend ""]
http://www.slickdeals.net/permadeal/19087/...la-or-cookies--cream-34-or-10-lb-66
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[Mar 16,2009 2:46pm - SapremiaNJ ""]
I weigh about 225 or so now, i havent maxed in a while, but my mid pyramid set is 315 for 5, which is down from last year when i was using 365 for 5. I havent used any creatine for a while, i will have to check out this stuff your talking about. My best max was about four years ago when i hit 445 fairly clean.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:48pm - the_reverend ""]
I'm 185 now. I was 190-195 when I started going to the gym. with in a couple weeks, I was 214! but then I went back down to 190. now I bouce around 180-195.
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[Mar 16,2009 2:48pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
NOT NOW, CHIEF - I'M IN THE FUCKIN' ZONE
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[Mar 16,2009 2:52pm - largefreakatzero ""]

SapremiaNJ said:I weigh about 225 or so now, i havent maxed in a while, but my mid pyramid set is 315 for 5, which is down from last year when i was using 365 for 5. I havent used any creatine for a while, i will have to check out this stuff your talking about. My best max was about four years ago when i hit 445 fairly clean.


You = animal. I don't have the joints for it -- I'm fairly sure that an elbow or shoulder would explode if I went for 445. Plus I'm 6'4" with long monkey arms -- definitely doesn't help.
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[Mar 16,2009 3:03pm - SapremiaNJ ""]
6'4 does not help at all. Im only 5'10, shorter arms much easier for the lift. I know i cant do 445 now, i dont even think id attempt anything near 400 unless i train for it. My elbows have been getting increasingly worse, i have adjusted my workouts accordingly. I started using Glucosamine/Chondrotin and it has helped some with both my elbows and knees.
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[Mar 16,2009 3:12pm - the_reverend ""]
I would have guessed you were 5'10"
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[Mar 16,2009 3:13pm - SapremiaNJ ""]

the_reverend said:I would have guessed you were 5'10"


You have met me a few times, no need to guess. You coming to Metal Thursday?
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[Mar 16,2009 3:14pm - largefreakatzero ""]

SapremiaNJ said:6'4 does not help at all. Im only 5'10, shorter arms much easier for the lift. I know i cant do 445 now, i dont even think id attempt anything near 400 unless i train for it. My elbows have been getting increasingly worse, i have adjusted my workouts accordingly. I started using Glucosamine/Chondrotin and it has helped some with both my elbows and knees.


Sucks getting old, huh? I've been on the Gluc/Chon. religiously for probably about 3 years -- it definitely helps. Also try an Omega 3 Fatty Acid -- will also aid in joint health.
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[Mar 16,2009 3:17pm - the_reverend ""]
yes, I will be there.

I need to get back on the omega 3. I is so smrt.

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