someone finally confronts Godsmack about letting the military use their music[views:8751][posts:96]_____________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:21pm - HailTheLeaf ""] This has several typos, but it's worth it, Sully looks like such a douche... Arthur Magazine interview with Godsmack - ridiculous Talking to Godsmack (whose album is No. 1 on the charts) about what they use their music for. Godsmack have sold millions of records. Their fourth album, IV, was released on April 25. It sold 211,000 copies in its first week in the USA to debut at Number One on the Billboard chart. I interviewed Godsmack frontman/lyricist/producer Sully Erna on Monday, May 1, 2006 by telephone. Here is the full transcript of our conversation. Jay Babcock (Editor, ARTHUR Magazine JAY BABCOCK: ALRIGHT LET ME GET THE TAPE ROLLING HERE. HOW YOU DOING? SULLY ERNA: Im good! HOW WAS THE JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW ON FRIDAY? YOU WERE OUTSIDE PLAYING, RIGHT? Yeah its always cool to do that because its so set up for musicians, you know. Big stage, live crowd. Its not so like indoors with a camera rehearsals. Its a lot easier. YEAH. SO YOU GOT TO BE BACK OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR FANS. Yeah. It was good. It was fun. WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOUR MUSIC, DO YOU THINK? Ummm Ive seen em range as young as 8 and as old as 68. [chuckles] YUP. So its WELL YOUVE SEEN A LOT MORE OF EM THAN I HAVE, AND IM TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE WHEN YOURE OUT THERETO YOU, ON THE STAGE. DO YOU THINK LIKE THERES A LOT OF TEENAGERS IN THE AUDIENCE? A LOT OF GUYS IN THEIR 20S? CHICKS? Ah you know IS IT A DUDE AUDIENCE? I would say, if I had to guess what our age group is, its probably between 18 and 40. OH YEAH? I would have to say thats kind of where were at, maybe more, majority would be 18-30? But I, we definitely, we recruited a lot of new fans off of that acoustic record THAT DID IT, HUH? an older audience. And this record seems to be drawing in a different kind of audience as well, so. You know were just trying to continue to expand and not have a ceiling over our heads. RIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE STILL HAVING A GOOD TIME MAKING MUSIC AFTER ALL THESE YEARS? Of course. Were musicians, thats what we do. It may not always be great music, but we love making it! [laughs] CUZ MUSIC HAS A POWER? Mmm hmm. Its a universal language. SO WHAT YOU SAY WITH IT, AND WHAT YOU DO WITH IT, HAS AN EFFECT? Of course. RIGHT? [emphatically] Of course. SO I NOTICE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN REALLY INVOLVED WITH PROMOTING THE MILITARY. [1] Well, they actually came to us, believe it or not. Somebody in the Navy loves this band, because they used Awake for three years and then they came to us and re-upped the contract for another three years for Sick of Life. So, I dont know. They just feel like that music, [laughs] someone in that place thinks that the music is very motivating for recruit commercials I guess. And hey, Im an American boy so its not Im proud of it. YOURE PROUD OF RECRUITING YOUR FANS INTO THE MILITARY? Well, no. [laughs, then jokingly] Dont be turning my fucking words around, you! WELL, TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN. YOU SAID YOUR MUSIC IS POWERFUL, ITS GOT AN EFFECT, LIKE YOU SAID, AND YOURE LETTING THE MILITARY USE IT. THE MILITARY, WHO ARE THEY RECRUITING? 18 TO 30-YEAR OLDS, RIGHT? I guess I dont know what their recruit age is. I know its at least 18. YEAH, THEY GO DOWN IN TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS NOW. My thing is Listen, heres my thing with the military. Im not saying our government is perfect. Because I know that we make some mistakes and we do shitty things BUT, BUT. You wouldnt have your job, and we wouldnt have our lives, if we werent out there protecting this country so we could lead a free life. So theres kind of a ying and a yang to that. Sometimes its not always the best choices that we make, or we stick our noses in other peoples shit, but at the same time, we protect this place enough that were able to like pursue careers and do what a lot of people in other countries arent able to do. Theyre kind of picked and theyre chosen to be whatever they become Im, Im, Im proud to be an American, Ill tell you that. SO YOUR COUNTRY, RIGHT OR WRONG? Uh, no. Not right or wrong. But Im proud to be an American. I love my country. Ive seen the depressions and how people live in other countries and how theyre told what to be, and they dont have the choices that we have. I do love that about our country. So, you know And I actually sympathize with a lot of the soliders, and the military in general, that are trained to go out and protect FOR us, and what they have to go through, its really kind of shitty in a sense that these young kids have to go over there and die, sometimes, for something that isnt our fucking problem. And that kind of sucks. So what I have to do is at least support them, because they dont have the choice that we do. THEY DONT HAVE THE CHOICE BECAUSE? Because theyve decided to fight for our country. AND THEY DECIDED TO DO THAT BECAUSE? [laughs] OF YOUR SONG? Aw, come on. Its not like that. WELL I HAVE A QUOTE FROM YOU HERE: WEVE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF OUR COUTNRY AND OUR PRESIDENT, WHEREAS A LOT OF PEOPLE I THOUGHTAND YOU SAID THIS IN 2003 TO MTV NEWS, YOU SAID A LOT OF PEOPLE I THOUGHT LASHED OUT PRETTY QUICKLY AT WHAT WE DID AND I THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT DID EVERYTHING PRETTY CLEANLY AND PUBLICLY AS POSSIBLE. [2] Yeah? WELL, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? That was my opinion at the time. The whole war thing, and trying to keep us up to date like If you remember, back in other wars, we didnt have the opportunity to follow it through the media, and CNN, and the newslive updates and that kind of thing. And I thought that for the most part you know we were allowed to follow it as best we could through the media sources that were feeding us information. [incredulous] YOU DIDNT THINK THE MEDIA WAS BEING CONTROLLED BY THE MILITARY?!? Well, it could be. I dont know. YOU DIDNT LOOK INTO IT? Listen. Are you a fucking government expert? IM NOT TELLING PEOPLE TO GO JOIN THE MILITARY AND THEN NOT KNOWING WHAT THE MILITARY IS DOING. I dont tell people to go join the military!! YOU DONT THINK USING YOUR SONGS THE POWER OF YOUR MUSIC, WHICH YOU WERE TALKING ABOUTHAS AN EFFECT ON THE PEOPLE THAT HEAR IT WHEN IT GOES WITH THE VISUALS THAT THE BEST P.R. PEOPLE IN THE WORLD USE?! Oh man, are you like one of those guys that agrees with some kid that fuckin tied a noose around his neck because Judas Priest lyrics told him to? YOU WERE TELLING ME HOW POWERFUL YOUR MUSIC WAS, AND WHAT AGE THE PEOPLE ARE THAT LISTEN TO IT. AND YOU MUST HAVE THOUGHT , WELL THE NAVY SURE THOUGHT IT WAS USEFUL. SO YOU TELL ME. Hey, listen. The Navy thought. Its the same reason why wrestlers work out to the music, and extreme motorcross riders listen to the music and do what they do. Its ENERGETIC music. Its very ATHLETIC. People feel that they get an adrenaline rush out of it or whatever, so, it goes with whatevers an extreme situation. But I doubt very seriously that a kid is going to join the Marines or the US Navy because he heard Godsmack as the underlying bed music in the commercial. Theyre gonna go and join the Navy because they want to jump out of helicopters and fuckin shoot people! Or protect the country or whatever it is, and look at the cool infra-red goggles. YOU SAID TO MTV, WERE NOT A VERY POLITICAL BAND BUT WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE U.S. MILITARY AND HOW THEY APPROACH THINGS. Listen. Someone turned that around. I never said and how they approach things. OKAY. SO THATS A MISQUOTE. OR SOMETHING, Wow, what WHAT ABOUT THIS? IN 2003 YOU DID A SHOW THAT STARTED WITH VIDEO FOOTAGE OF APACHE HELICOPTERS HONING IN ON A DESERT TARGET INTERSPERSED WITH THE WORDS WE WILL PREVAIL./STRONGER THAN THEM ALL. Say that again? IM READING FROM A BOSTON GLOBE REVIEW OF A SHOW YOU DID AT THE TWEETER CENTER. Yeah. IN FRONT OF 13,000 PEOPLE ON MAY 22, 2003. Yeah, but tell me what it said again. YES SIR. IT SAID GODSMACKS FEROCIOUSLY HIGH ENERGY 90-MINUTE SET STARTED WITH VIDEO FOOTAGE OF APACHE HELICOPTERS HONING IN ON A DESERT TARGET, INTERSPERSED WITH THE WORDS WE WILL PREVAIL/STRONGER THAN THEM ALL. [3] Yeah? SO YOURE USING MILITARYIMAGERYWITH YOUR MUSIC AT YOUR CONCERTS. First of all, it was a COMPUTER image, a computer-animated helicopter that didnt There was no scene of a desert in there. It was a helicopter that rose up from the screen and scanned the audience. It was an EFFECT. And then it shot out missiles that hit the stage. UH HUH Because the intro to Straight Out of Line has the sounds of like, a war thing going on. OH I SEE. SO ITS JUST SORT OF A CONCEPT THING. [pause] WELL YOUVE DONE A LOT TO HELP OUT THE GUYS WHO ARE IN THE MILITARY, WHO ARE STUCK THERE NOW, WHETHER THEY CHOSE TO BE THERE OR THEY GOT HOODWINKED INTO BEING THERE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEYRE IN THE MILITARY. AND THEYRE DOING THEIR JOB. YOU GUYS DID A SHOW FOR THEM AT CAMP PENDLETON Yup. CALLED ROCKIN THE CORPS. AND SO YOUVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF BENEFIT SHOWS [interrupting] Well, like I said, Listen you know, theres a lot of young kids that die for our country, man, and they dont have the choice once theyre in there. THATS RIGHT. So I just feel well you know whatever we can do to say thank you for protecting our country is what we try to do. Im not trying to make this a big political issue. OKAY. HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM JOINING THE MILITARY? No. TO MAYBE EDUCATE THEM AS TO WHATS IN STORE FOR THEM? I dont have enough education in the military to educate them in anything. WOULD YOU LET YOUR MUSIC BE USED FOR ANTI-MILITARY RECRUITING ADVERTISEMENTS? I dont know, I d have to see what that was about. BUT YOUD BE OPEN TO IT? Were open to whatever, as long as its not a Maybelline commercial. [laughs] MAYBELLINES MORE OFFENSIVE THAN THE MILITARY? No. That doesnt quite go with what we do. BUT THE MILITARY DOES?!? Listen. Where are we going with this thing? Is this interview about the government WELL, IVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A PRO-MILITARY Sounds like this is a personal attack or whatever. WELL IVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A PRO-MILITARY BAND AS YOU GUYS. But were not! I think [chuckling] youre making us out to be a little bit more. When were asked about something, we just answer the question. We dont go spend 23 hours out of our day supporting the military and what they do. UM HMM. We just simply, an opportunity came up, they wanted to use some music for a recruit commercial. What are we gonna say, no? YEAH. HOW HARD IS IT TO SAY NO? Why would we, though?!? BECAUSE Is it because you dont feel the same way about the government that we do, makes you right and us wrong? YEAH. WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT? TELL ME WHAT Aw, thats crazy, man! Thats just an OPINION. I CAN BACK MY OPINION UP FROM HERE TO TOMORROW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO ME ALL DAY LONG. Well obviously youve done a lot of research and youve THATS RIGHT, BECAUSE got a different opinion. We dont know that stuff that you know, so WHY DONT YOU DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU GET INVOLVED WITH THESE SORTS OF THINGS? YOURE TALKING ABOUT YOUNG KIDSLIVES. YOURE TALKING ABOUT KIDS [yelling] Would you rather not have us be protected so they can come and overrun our country?!? DO YOU KNOW WHAT A FOOLS ERRAND IS? Im asking you a question! NO ONE IS THREATENING Would you rather us not be protected?!? YOU KNOW WHAT ID LIKE, SULLY? A DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. NOT A DEPARTMENT OF OFFENSE THAT ATTACKS OTHER COUNTRIES SOVEREIGN NATIONS WHO DO THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN US, WHO WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO GO OVER AND INVADE AND CHANGE THEIR GOVERNMENTS. WOULD WE WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THAT TO US? Im not saying HOW HARD IS THAT TO THINK ABOUT? Im not saying that we were right on every war that weve created. I know that weve been damn wrong at times about stuff WHEN HAVE WE BEEN WRONG? [yelling] but they have also been wrong too! WHEN HAVE I dont trust someone like fuckin Sadaam and Osama to come in here and try to control [incredulous] WHEN DID SADAAM TRY TO COME IN HERE AND CONTROL OUR COUNTRY? Dude, [yelling] WHY DONT YOU GO LIVE IN IRAQ THEN IF YOU HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM WITH AMERICA? Why are you here? WHY AM I HERE?!? THIS IS THE TOP COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, MY FRIEND! Well, why do you think so? Because its PROTECTED. NO, ITS NOT BECAUSE ITS ruled our country. NO ONE IS ATTACKING US, MY FRIEND, CERTAINLY NOT IRAQ. EVERY FIRST WORLD NATION SUFFERS TERRORIST ATTACKS. GET USED TO IT. I am used to it. I dont have a problem GET USED TO IT. [laughs] Sounds like you do. YOURE THE ONE THATS SAYING ITS ALRIGHT TO NOT KNOW ABOUT STUFF AND THEN TO SEND OTHER PEOPLE TO DIE IN OUR NAME. I never said that! Dont put fuckin words in my mouth. IVE GOT IT ON TAPE, BRO. Youve got in on tape, bro?!? YEAH. You got me saying its okay for us to attack other countries? I GOT YOU ON TAPE SAYING THEYRE PROTECTING US BY ATTACKING, BY GOING OVER THERE AND TAKING OUT PEOPLE. Listen, dont fuckin turn my words around to make it to what you want it to be! Thats not what I meant and you know that. OKAY, IM SORRY, THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU MEANT. Listen Im not gonna get into a political fuckin conversation with you. This was supposed to be an interview about the band. Where is this going? WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POWER OF YOUR MUSIC AND WHAT YOURE USING IT FOR? What is this for anyway? Who are you working with? IM WORKING FOR MY OWN MAGAZINE, MY FRIEND. Whats it called? [laughing in disbelief] WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WHATS IT CALLED? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Yeah, whats the magazine called? ITS CALLED ARTHUR MAGAZINE. YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT SET THIS UP. Hey I was just told to do press today, man. HEY MAN, YOU GUYS I got a checklist in front of me, and I dont have time for a lot of this bullshit. OH YEAH? So write whatever the fuck you wanna write, because your magazine obviously is that popular. ITS DOING PRETTY GOOD Yeah Im sure it is. All three thousand copies of it [4] ON OUR OWN, WITHOUT ANY CORPORATE SUPPORT. I wish you the best of Why would you waste your time calling a band like us when you dont even give a fuck?!? I CERTAINLY DO GIVE A FUCK. CUZ YOU KNOW WHAT? What is this about?!? BECAUSE LISTEN MAN! YOU KNOW THERES 2800 PEOPLE, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, HAVE DIED OVER IN IRAQ! Yeah? YOU KNOW 30,000 IRAQI HUMANS WHO NEVER DID SHIT TO US HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THE ATTACKS WEVE MADE OVER THERE? [in disbelief] And thats Godsmacks fault? DID YOU KNOW THAT 78% OF WOMEN IN THE MILITARY REPORT CASES OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT? [sarcastic] And thats Godsmacks fault. NO, MAN [sarcastic] That has to do with our new record. OKAY, LETS TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW RECORD. I cant believe this. This is [inaud] LETS TALK ABOUT THAT NEW RECORD, MY FRIEND. Get a life. [hangs up] LETS TALK ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:30pm - sinistas ""] Completely unprofessional. I hate Godsmack, but railroading isn't cool. |
| _________________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:36pm - dreadedsilence ""] actually, the interviewer looks like a douche. as much as i loathe Godsmack and everything about them, this interview was the biggest piece of twisted liberal nonsense |
| ______________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:40pm - the_reverend ""] agreed since godsmack is siq |
| _____________________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:41pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] i want the last 5 minutes of my life back! |
| _____________________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:43pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] godsmack is the cat's meow, man. haha...on a serious note...i do agree that it was unprofessional, and the dude doing the article sounds as much of a dumbass as sully does. |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:45pm - HailTheLeaf ""] It might not have been done in the most tactful way, but I think he clearly exposes how lame and ignorant Godsmack are for letting the navy use their music in recruitment ads. They took a big check and never gave it a second thought. Then Sully claims they aren't a political band and won't discuss anything about the people who handed him that big check and that they do. Total fucking sellouts. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:48pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] i agree with that. although we all knew sully was a dumbass anyway. i guess it was just another fun way to fuck with celebrities, haha |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:50pm - HailTheLeaf ""] pretty much... |
| ______________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:50pm - the_reverend ""] if the navy would give me a big check for pictures of seabeast, I would do it in a heart beat. they could do a "you could turn out like this" AD campaign. |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:51pm - HailTheLeaf ""] pfttt, you haven't taken pictures of us |
| ______________________________________ [May 5,2006 12:52pm - the_reverend ""] but I would just to sell them to the US NAVY! |
| _____________________________ [May 5,2006 1:04pm - Yeti ""] do people really still care about Godsmack? |
| ___________________________________________ [May 5,2006 1:09pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] HailTheLeaf said:It might not have been done in the most tactful way, but I think he clearly exposes how lame and ignorant Godsmack are for letting the navy use their music in recruitment ads. Lame and ignorant because he doesn't have the same views as you? What was lame and ignorant was how the interviewer didn't (and couldn't) answer any of Sully's questions. All he (or she) could do was try to twist it around on Sully to make him look bad. I hate godsmack, but I have a lot more respect for Sully cause he stood up for what he did. |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2006 1:30pm - HailTheLeaf ""] Yes, clearly Sully gives a deep, compelling answer somewhere in here that fully explains his stance on U.S. foregin policy, current military actions, and the role his band's music plays in Navy recruitment commercials...oh wait, I can't find it...Sully's questions are responses to the interviewer's questions as a means of not answering them. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2006 1:30pm - contagion ""] interviewer was a cunt. fuckin extremists. |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2006 1:39pm - HailTheLeaf ""] The interviewer is a douche, it's just funny that sully can't back his shit up. |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2006 1:40pm - SACAPAPADOO ""] improfessional or not,hes doing a personal favr for all of us and putting dooshbags like sully erna in their place thank you. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 5,2006 1:49pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] At least Sully is honest about his own music sucking. It is true that the interviewer had the upper hand here b/c Sully probably had no clue what to expect. He is a rock star, completely out of touch and probably had a dozen or more interviews to do in the same day. I wonder if Michael Moore writes for Arthur too. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2006 1:59pm - dreadkill ""] i was going to post this the other day, but then i thought of hail the leaf and the bullshit that would come from me posting it. looks like it happened anyway. i hate godsmack, but i hate the asshole interviewer more. people don't join the military because they like the song on the recruiting commercial. that's just silly. people can think for themselves. |
| ______________________________ [May 5,2006 2:53pm - eddie ""] HailTheLeaf said:The interviewer is a douche, it's just funny that sully can't back his shit up. why should he have to back anything up? i hope godsmack breaks up |
| ____________________________ [May 5,2006 3:43pm - pam ""] What the fuck is wrong with the military recruiting? That's their fucking job. We need military. What you irrational left wing zombie IDIOTS (like that interviewer) seem to forget is that people can think for their fucking selves, if they don't want to join, THEY WONT. SIK Godsmack song, or not. You make me embarassed to tell people I am liberal. Sorry for the hostility but there are more important things to fucking concern yourself with. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 3:58pm - BornSoVile ""] Man_of_the_Century said: Lame and ignorant because he doesn't have the same views as you? What was lame and ignorant was how the interviewer didn't (and couldn't) answer any of Sully's questions. All he (or she) could do was try to twist it around on Sully to make him look bad. I hate godsmack, but I have a lot more respect for Sully cause he stood up for what he did. it's not like they would do it for the$$$ no no no, it's not like money talks or anything, i mean sully's an american boy-he clearly did it for all the right reasons. if only sully wasn't so passionate about this, then maybe that gawd damn jewish liberal media couldn't have ripped him apart. what's lame is that sully asked wicked stupid questions to the interviewer. that's NOT sully's job, okay. he needs to get the fuck in line and answer his questions like a good american would. if you question back you're obviously a communist pinko. we can't let anymore of that spread here. it's a total plauge. the very poison which makes americans hate america. do you really want people questioning questions all the time??? just step aside, let the man upstairs take care of this one (just like he's gonna get back all you fuckers who have launched an all out assault on christmas) and stop complaining about the incompetence of our great leaders. HEIL BUSH. |
| ____________________________ [May 5,2006 4:03pm - pam ""] I would like to state that Sully is a corporate whore and deserved the embarassment of not being able to answer that question. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 4:12pm - BornSoVile ""] oh really Pam???? so that's all it is now, corporate whore this, he's too stupid to answer a question that, huh? well then, if you think the army is a corporate whore, sister you got another thing coming! the armed services are dedicated to protecting YOUR freedom. trust me, the army doesn't care about money at all, that's a fact. if they cared about money, they would be the fucking SALVATION ARMY, got it sister?? anybody who trashes godsmack is unamerican, that's another fact. |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2006 4:16pm - Sacreligion ""] at least we know that hippies are pussies too and will unexpectedly sucker someone into a personal attack so that there responses are rushed and can be twisted into whatever context they'd like to edit them as way to go! fuckin hippies |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 4:20pm - BornSoVile ""] Sacreligion said:at least we know that hippies are pussies too and will unexpectedly sucker someone into a personal attack so that there responses are rushed and can be twisted into whatever context they'd like to edit them as way to go! fuckin hippies how do you know it was edited? were you there? is sully secretly a genius? if he can't handle a fucking interview maybe he should get the fuck out of the business. if i was sully and under such a brutal personal attack, i woulda been all like "yo, i'm doing the best i've been, now GO AWAY!" arthur musta edited that out, cause sully looks like a total poser here. lies lies lies! GO SULLY GO!!! |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2006 4:25pm - Sacreligion ""] i wasn't standing up for sully at all...i was saying that the interviewer is a douchebag for leading that interview the way he did |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 4:31pm - BornSoVile ""] I totally agreed, when I read Arthur Magazine, I expect nothing but soft journalism which praises hard working bands like Godsmack. Godsmack management sure got suckered here! If I was them I'd sue the shit out the magazine for slander and investigative journalism. Not only does Sully owe us, the fans, an apology but the troops as well. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 4:38pm - BornSoVile ""] seriously guys, i really hope Sully is recovering from this viciously brutal personal attack. |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2006 4:59pm - HailTheLeaf ""] pam said:What the fuck is wrong with the military recruiting? That's their fucking job. We need military. What you irrational left wing zombie IDIOTS (like that interviewer) seem to forget is that people can think for their fucking selves, if they don't want to join, THEY WONT. SIK Godsmack song, or not. You make me embarassed to tell people I am liberal. Sorry for the hostility but there are more important things to fucking concern yourself with. Plenty of things, but that's a whole other topic. Here the main point is that they sold out by allowing their music to be used in a commercial, and that they seem to think there's nothing wrong with that. Add in that it's the navy using their music, and Sully won't give a straight answer about anything political, in fact doesn't even seem to know anything about what's going on. He's no musician, he's a corporate whore sucking the government's dick. |
| _________________________________________ [May 5,2006 5:42pm - BestialOnslaught ""] I don't see a thing wrong with the interviewer's approach. It's hardly his fault that GODSMACK doesn't put any thought into where their music is licensed. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2006 5:47pm - dreadkill ""] i would just like to state that i am glad someone finally confronted godsmack about this. one of the most important issues facing our nation, the army's use of godsmack's music to brainwash young people, has finally been addressed. thank you, arthur magazine, for solving our country's biggest problems one crappy WAAF rock band at a time. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 5,2006 5:52pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Considering they allow Godsmack to appear in their commercials I can't see why they ever had a problem with using a Village People's song for recruiting. Don't even try to tell me that Sully, the rest of the band, and all of the band's fans aren't pickle smokers because that would rob you of all credibility. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 5,2006 5:56pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] BornSoVile said: anybody who trashes godsmack is unamerican, that's another fact. Josh, this is so funny, on so many levels, that I feel I actually owe you money for saying it. |
| _________________________________ [May 5,2006 5:59pm - Dankill ""] ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 6:01pm - BornSoVile ""] DrinkHardThrashHard said:BornSoVile said: anybody who trashes godsmack is unamerican, that's another fact. Josh, this is so funny, on so many levels, that I feel I actually owe you money for saying it. thank you sir! |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 6:37pm - the_reverend ""] 1) we don't need an army, we have zee bomb 2) sully probably has no clue about the ads unless he's seen them. the record company licensed it 3) most godsmack fans are in the armed services anyhow |
| ______________________________ [May 5,2006 8:03pm - hoser ""] Hail_The_Leaf.......move to a different country because you obviously don't like it here. I'll tell you what......I swear by all that I am, and on the souls of my very family that I WILL pay for a plane ticket for you to move out of this country if you promise to NEVER come back. I make great money and I can afford it, believe me. I swear in all HONESTY, and my word is good, that I will pay for your ticket, but that's all. Email me if you want to take me up on this. jakedewire@hotmail.com |
| ______________________________ [May 5,2006 8:04pm - hoser ""] and I am DEAD SERIOUS. |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 8:15pm - the_reverend ""] I get emails from fakedewire@hotmail.com all the time. hoser, they do this with the homeless in portsmouth and durham, but they just come back in the spring. |
| _________________________________ [May 5,2006 8:40pm - pam nli ""] want a country with no army? move to Canada and quit your whining. christ. That's the most right-wing thing I've ever said and I hate you for making me say it. |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 8:56pm - the_reverend ""] canada's got an army, eh. |
| _________________________________ [May 5,2006 9:06pm - pam nli ""] yeah but you have to use the finger quote things when you talk about them. |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2006 9:36pm - ichabod ""] hoser said:Hail_The_Leaf.......move to a different country because you obviously don't like it here. I'll tell you what......I swear by all that I am, and on the souls of my very family that I WILL pay for a plane ticket for you to move out of this country if you promise to NEVER come back. I make great money and I can afford it, believe me. I swear in all HONESTY, and my word is good, that I will pay for your ticket, but that's all. Email me if you want to take me up on this. jakedewire@hotmail.com I think goddamn sam is pretty righteous overall, she's never done me wrong and is good folk as far as I'm concerned... |
| _______________________________ [May 5,2006 10:24pm - hoser ""] ichabod said:hoser said:Hail_The_Leaf.......move to a different country because you obviously don't like it here. I'll tell you what......I swear by all that I am, and on the souls of my very family that I WILL pay for a plane ticket for you to move out of this country if you promise to NEVER come back. I make great money and I can afford it, believe me. I swear in all HONESTY, and my word is good, that I will pay for your ticket, but that's all. Email me if you want to take me up on this. jakedewire@hotmail.com I think goddamn sam is pretty righteous overall, she's never done me wrong and is good folk as far as I'm concerned... I didn't say that she was a bad person. She's just fucking annoying. She'd make a great poster child for Kleenex. She whines more than Ernest and Julio Gallo put together. |
| _______________________________ [May 5,2006 10:26pm - hoser ""] [img] It was time to break this out again. |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 10:32pm - HailTheLeaf ""] awww...Hoser did you sign up because of a Godsmack song? is that what's going on here? What does living in this country have to do with godsmack dropping their pants and bending over for the almighty dollar and being ignorant fuckheads? You know, losing any artistic merit they might have ever had...if ever...yeah, clearly I've been whining |
| ______________________________________ [May 5,2006 10:35pm - the_reverend ""] sam's last post is hilarious since I first saw hoser on stage with rezinate. ahahaha! |
| ______________________________________________ [May 5,2006 10:38pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] IF THE ARMY ALLOWS GODSMACK TO EXIST DEMOCRACY HAS FAILED NATIONALIST LINKS AN ESSAY I DID NOT WRITE CONCERNING THIS SUBJECT WHY AVERSE SEFIRA IS THE BEST BAND EVER |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2006 11:03pm - PatMeebles ""] What is it with leftist extremist calling the military a bunch of kids? |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 11:13pm - MikePile ""] HailTheLeaf said:awww...Hoser did you sign up because of a Godsmack song? is that what's going on here? What does living in this country have to do with godsmack dropping their pants and bending over for the almighty dollar and being ignorant fuckheads? You know, losing any artistic merit they might have ever had...if ever...yeah, clearly I've been whining If the United States government offered you ten million dollars to do something seemingly harmless, I predict you would also be dropping your pants, as well as dispensing numerous rimjobs, deepthroating, stuffing fruit into your streched asshole, and letting midgets ride around on your back like a human pony. Of course the interview makes Godsmack look like an idiot. It also makes the interviewer look like an idiot. My guess is that this is because both parties are severely fucking retarded. |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2006 11:21pm - MikePile ""] hoser said:Hail_The_Leaf.......move to a different country because you obviously don't like it here. I'll tell you what......I swear by all that I am, and on the souls of my very family that I WILL pay for a plane ticket for you to move out of this country if you promise to NEVER come back. I make great money and I can afford it, believe me. I swear in all HONESTY, and my word is good, that I will pay for your ticket, but that's all. Email me if you want to take me up on this. jakedewire@hotmail.com If I start acting like a retard, will you put me on a plane to Cancun or Barbados? |
| _____________________________________ [May 5,2006 11:40pm - HailTheLeaf ""] MikePile said:If the United States government offered you ten million dollars to do something seemingly harmless, I predict you would also be dropping your pants, as well as dispensing numerous rimjobs, deepthroating, stuffing fruit into your streched asshole, and letting midgets ride around on your back like a human pony. Ten million dollars? Is that how much they got? Did that come out of our tax money? No, that isn't seemingly harmless to me, you cease to be an artist when you start selling your music to corporations, let alone the government. Your credibility is gone, you're a corporate shill. The fact that he knows nothing about how his music is being used and it's potential effect is also disturbing. So yeah, I'd tell the navy to fuck off. |
| _______________________________ [May 6,2006 12:11am - eddie ""] "you cease to be an artist when you start selling your music to corporations" that’s retarded, every great artist from the renaissance was chartered by somebody, often the biggest corporation of them all, the catholic church. if this interview was with slayer would it get the same reaction here? the military used slayer, as a way to put people into stress situation in order to extract information. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:38am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] They should pay me one million dollars and use 'Inter Arma Silent Leges' in their next commercial. Noone will find this amusing except me. |
| _________________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:39am - dreadedsilence ""] the_reverend said:canada's got an army, eh. yeah but they have plastic forks and knives instead of guns, so they don't really count |
| ____________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:40am - RichHorror ""] Canada has Rammer, NOMEANSNO and DOA... so they win. |
| _________________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:43am - dreadedsilence ""] yeah, but they also have Celine Dion...sooo.....yeah.... |
| _____________________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:46am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Razor cancels out Celine Dion alone. Then add Voivod, Sacrifice, DBC, Exciter and Piledriver and we are way back in the red. Canada > New England. |
| ____________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:46am - RichHorror ""] Rammer. That is all. I'll fight anyone who disagress to the death. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:47am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I love Rammer, but they are nothing compared to their forebears. |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:48am - HailTheLeaf ""] eddie said:"you cease to be an artist when you start selling your music to corporations" that’s retarded, every great artist from the renaissance was chartered by somebody, often the biggest corporation of them all, the catholic church. if this interview was with slayer would it get the same reaction here? the military used slayer, as a way to put people into stress situation in order to extract information. riiight, because clearly, godsmack selling their songs to the navy to be used in recuiting commercials, and the military buying a Slayer cd without Slayer even knowing about it and using it to "put people into a stress situation" can be comparable...wow. |
| ____________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:50am - RichHorror ""] DrinkHardThrashHard said:I love Rammer, but they are nothing compared to their forebears. You and me. Courtyard after Algebra class. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:52am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I'll bring some Razor tapes and a boombox. |
| ____________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:53am - RichHorror ""] Yes! |
| _______________________________________ [May 6,2006 1:59am - JonahBloodbath ""] 1. ya'll are morons 2. this makes sully look totally ignorant about his beliefs 3. the interviewer, while maybe unprofessional, is pretty right on |
| _________________________________________ [May 6,2006 4:41am - dwellingsickness ""] It's godsmack for fuck's sake....Who cares |
| ____________________________________ [May 6,2006 8:18am - Sacreligion ""] dreadedsilence said:yeah, but they also have Celine Dion...sooo.....yeah.... and bryan adams |
| _________________________________ [May 6,2006 9:15am - Cecchini ""] all sully had to say is that they did it for the money. the interviewer reminds me of one of my annoying hippie friends, but i'm glad he ambushed sully. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 6,2006 9:37am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] JonahBloodbath said:1. ya'll are morons Did you just call someone else a moron and say 'ya'll' in the same sentence? |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 9:38am - the_reverend ""] Sacreligion said:and bryan adams ryan adams from the CT band catalyst? |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 10:52am - Sacreligion ""] nah man..."everything i do, i do it for you" bryan adams |
| _______________________________ [May 6,2006 11:17am - eddie ""] HailTheLeaf said:eddie said:"you cease to be an artist when you start selling your music to corporations" that’s retarded, every great artist from the renaissance was chartered by somebody, often the biggest corporation of them all, the catholic church. if this interview was with slayer would it get the same reaction here? the military used slayer, as a way to put people into stress situation in order to extract information. riiight, because clearly, godsmack selling their songs to the navy to be used in recuiting commercials, and the military buying a Slayer cd without Slayer even knowing about it and using it to "put people into a stress situation" can be comparable...wow. see i'd think, that you'd think, that the slayer thing was worse. maybe we should all stop making music in fear that the military may use it in some manner. |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 11:37am - HailTheLeaf ""] How could the use of Slayer's music by the military be worse if Slayer had nothing to do with it? You could argue that the military used Slayer's music for a more evil purpose, but that's about it. They used Metallica to intimidate captives also, and when the band found out about it they weren't too happy. Godsmack SOLD the rights to use the song to the navy, they were actually asked, they took money, and they were fine with it. There's big fucking difference. |
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| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 11:42am - Sacreligion ""] yeah well accusing someone of "selling out" and accusing someone of being responsible for thousands of deaths(in so many words) is entirely different as well |
| ______________________________________ [May 6,2006 11:45am - hungtableed ""] Sacreligion said: accusing someone of being responsible for thousands of deaths(in so many words) is entirely different as well who the hell are you talking about? |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 11:48am - Sacreligion ""] said douche interviewer |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 11:52am - Sacreligion ""] also, for the record, i think it's pretty lame for anyone to sell their music for a commercial of any kind i just don't like said douche interviewer...i have this thing about pretentious assholes that think they know everything |
| ______________________________________ [May 6,2006 11:59am - hungtableed ""] who fuckin cares whos music the fucking military is using? Is the left really against our military that much? If you hate the military, then you're a pussy and you should be put in a re-education camp. I can only assume that if you're one of those pussies who hates the military, then you must be one of those lunatic spaceshots that think that war has never solved anything. |
| _____________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:01pm - Sacreligion ""] "we claim this land for england!" "you can't do that...we live here!" "well...do you have a flag?" |
| ______________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:03pm - hungtableed ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [May 6,2006 12:12pm - the_reverend ""] "white people dododo!" |
| ____________________________________________ [May 6,2006 1:41pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I doubt that there is a SINGLE human being who joined the Army, went off and died SPECIFICALLY because of a fucking Godsmack song that was already years old. They signed up their song to: 1) make a ton of fucking money (something anyone in here would do, even the Arthur magazine fag if he had a band) 2) existentially, show their support for their countrymen killing and dying in a distant land for a corrupted government and a country who would partially turn their backs and blame them from the comfort of their sofa and Lost re-runs. But if you think there is a SINGLE kid overseas in our Armed Forces fighting because he heard the words "I.....stand alone!" in a gay nu-metal song then I'm afraid you are mistaken, and should tear out your ovaries so that you save us all a lot of trouble in the future. That said, Godsmack is an awful band and all future recruitment commercials should feature speed metal. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 6,2006 6:10pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] hungtableed said:who fuckin cares whos music the fucking military is using? Is the left really against our military that much? If you hate the military, then you're a pussy and you should be put in a re-education camp. I can only assume that if you're one of those pussies who hates the military, then you must be one of those lunatic spaceshots that think that war has never solved anything. Why do you hate America? |
| ___________________________________ [May 8,2006 11:36am - ShadowSD ""] What's striking here is how Sully wants to sound all middle of the road and distance himself from embracing goverment positions in 2003 when it was the popular position: Interviewer: I GOT YOU ON TAPE SAYING THEYRE PROTECTING US BY ATTACKING, BY GOING OVER THERE AND TAKING OUT PEOPLE. Sully: Listen, dont fuckin turn my words around to make it to what you want it to be! Thats not what I meant and you know that. If Sully supported pre-emptive strikes, and it's on tape, why doesn't he just fess up to it? Regardless of how you feel politically, the hypocrisy here is insulting. What Sully said was popular in 2003, but is a minority viewpoint now, so he wants to pretend he never felt that way and erase it from history; he's not a politician, but he's acting like one. The one defense to make this interviewer look completely out of line is "hey I'm just a musician, I'm not trying to make political statements", and it totally falls apart when he's afraid to back up his own words because they're not popular anymore. If Sully still backed up pre-emptive strikes, I could respect his viewpoint. If he no longer believes in attacking first, but admits that he used to believe in it and has since learned otherwise, I could respect that, too. But after preaching and financially benefiting from what was popular in 2003, and pretending it never happened when it became unpopular in 2006, I think as much of the man's mind as I do of his musical talent. |
| _____________________________________ [May 8,2006 11:47am - Morbid_Mike ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:i want the last 5 minutes of my life back! You put it best Mark my brain hurts. |
| _____________________________________ [May 8,2006 11:48am - Morbid_Mike ""] hungtableed said:[img] that's me boy honostly that's the shit man my place today or what!? |
| ________________________________ [May 8,2006 12:12pm - xmikex ""] fight Godsmack, not Wars |
| _________________________________________ [May 8,2006 12:52pm - DreamingInExile ""] the_reverend said:Sacreligion said:and bryan adams ryan adams from the CT band catalyst? wern't some of the members of Catalyst originally in Capharnaum? |
| ___________________________________ [May 9,2006 9:02am - anonymous ""] HailTheLeaf said:eddie said:"you cease to be an artist when you start selling your music to corporations" that’s retarded, every great artist from the renaissance was chartered by somebody, often the biggest corporation of them all, the catholic church. if this interview was with slayer would it get the same reaction here? the military used slayer, as a way to put people into stress situation in order to extract information. riiight, because clearly, godsmack selling their songs to the navy to be used in recuiting commercials, and the military buying a Slayer cd without Slayer even knowing about it and using it to "put people into a stress situation" can be comparable...wow. What about the time Slayer visited some of the troops in the Gulf War? |
| ___________________________________ [May 9,2006 11:29am - ShadowSD ""] You can support the troops without turning yourself into a recruitment poster. Actively involving yourself in recruitment is contingent on your belief that the current government policy is reasonable, because without that, it would mean you're helping aid the process of innocent young men being placed in the line of fire for no reason. However, playing a concert for the troops and boosting their moral makes sense to everyone, regardless of how they feel politically, because even if you believe the troops are dying in vain, they especially deserve a good Slayer concert on their way out. |
| _____________________________________ [May 9,2006 11:36am - HailTheLeaf ""] anonymous said:HailTheLeaf said:eddie said:"you cease to be an artist when you start selling your music to corporations" that’s retarded, every great artist from the renaissance was chartered by somebody, often the biggest corporation of them all, the catholic church. if this interview was with slayer would it get the same reaction here? the military used slayer, as a way to put people into stress situation in order to extract information. riiight, because clearly, godsmack selling their songs to the navy to be used in recuiting commercials, and the military buying a Slayer cd without Slayer even knowing about it and using it to "put people into a stress situation" can be comparable...wow. What about the time Slayer visited some of the troops in the Gulf War? I donno what to think about people playing shows for troops or visiting them, I haven't thought about that one long enough to actually come up with any opinion one way or the other. Right now I can't think of any particular pro or con that would swing me one way or the other...pretty neutral on that issue. I personally wouldn't jump at such an offer, but don't care if others do. And what ShadowSD said was pretty right on. |
| ___________________________________ [May 9,2006 12:18pm - dreadkill ""] i'd do a show for troops any time. they aren't the ones who declare war, they just follow orders once war is declared. i'd play a show for anyone defending the freedom that allows me to play music in the first place. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2006 1:20pm - Yeti ""] dreadkill said:i'd do a show for troops any time. they aren't the ones who declare war, they just follow orders once war is declared. i'd play a show for anyone defending the freedom that allows me to play music in the first place. right on |
| _________________________________ [May 9,2006 2:28pm - jakeman ""] [img] rollerblades rule |