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[QUOTE="HailTheLeaf:422215"]This has several typos, but it's worth it, Sully looks like such a douche... Arthur Magazine interview with Godsmack - ridiculous Talking to Godsmack (whose album is No. 1 on the charts) about what they use their music for. Godsmack have sold millions of records. Their fourth album, IV, was released on April 25. It sold 211,000 copies in its first week in the USA to debut at Number One on the Billboard chart. I interviewed Godsmack frontman/lyricist/producer Sully Erna on Monday, May 1, 2006 by telephone. Here is the full transcript of our conversation. Jay Babcock (Editor, ARTHUR Magazine JAY BABCOCK: ALRIGHT LET ME GET THE TAPE ROLLING HERE. HOW YOU DOING? SULLY ERNA: Im good! HOW WAS THE JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW ON FRIDAY? YOU WERE OUTSIDE PLAYING, RIGHT? Yeah its always cool to do that because its so set up for musicians, you know. Big stage, live crowd. Its not so like indoors with a camera rehearsals. Its a lot easier. YEAH. SO YOU GOT TO BE BACK OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR FANS. Yeah. It was good. It was fun. WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOUR MUSIC, DO YOU THINK? Ummm Ive seen em range as young as 8 and as old as 68. [chuckles] YUP. So its WELL YOUVE SEEN A LOT MORE OF EM THAN I HAVE, AND IM TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE WHEN YOURE OUT THERETO YOU, ON THE STAGE. DO YOU THINK LIKE THERES A LOT OF TEENAGERS IN THE AUDIENCE? A LOT OF GUYS IN THEIR 20S? CHICKS? Ah you know IS IT A DUDE AUDIENCE? I would say, if I had to guess what our age group is, its probably between 18 and 40. OH YEAH? I would have to say thats kind of where were at, maybe more, majority would be 18-30? But I, we definitely, we recruited a lot of new fans off of that acoustic record THAT DID IT, HUH? an older audience. And this record seems to be drawing in a different kind of audience as well, so. You know were just trying to continue to expand and not have a ceiling over our heads. RIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE STILL HAVING A GOOD TIME MAKING MUSIC AFTER ALL THESE YEARS? Of course. Were musicians, thats what we do. It may not always be great music, but we love making it! [laughs] CUZ MUSIC HAS A POWER? Mmm hmm. Its a universal language. SO WHAT YOU SAY WITH IT, AND WHAT YOU DO WITH IT, HAS AN EFFECT? Of course. RIGHT? [emphatically] Of course. SO I NOTICE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN REALLY INVOLVED WITH PROMOTING THE MILITARY. [1] Well, they actually came to us, believe it or not. Somebody in the Navy loves this band, because they used Awake for three years and then they came to us and re-upped the contract for another three years for Sick of Life. So, I dont know. They just feel like that music, [laughs] someone in that place thinks that the music is very motivating for recruit commercials I guess. And hey, Im an American boy so its not Im proud of it. YOURE PROUD OF RECRUITING YOUR FANS INTO THE MILITARY? Well, no. [laughs, then jokingly] Dont be turning my fucking words around, you! WELL, TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN. YOU SAID YOUR MUSIC IS POWERFUL, ITS GOT AN EFFECT, LIKE YOU SAID, AND YOURE LETTING THE MILITARY USE IT. THE MILITARY, WHO ARE THEY RECRUITING? 18 TO 30-YEAR OLDS, RIGHT? I guess I dont know what their recruit age is. I know its at least 18. YEAH, THEY GO DOWN IN TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS NOW. My thing is Listen, heres my thing with the military. Im not saying our government is perfect. Because I know that we make some mistakes and we do shitty things BUT, BUT. You wouldnt have your job, and we wouldnt have our lives, if we werent out there protecting this country so we could lead a free life. So theres kind of a ying and a yang to that. Sometimes its not always the best choices that we make, or we stick our noses in other peoples shit, but at the same time, we protect this place enough that were able to like pursue careers and do what a lot of people in other countries arent able to do. Theyre kind of picked and theyre chosen to be whatever they become Im, Im, Im proud to be an American, Ill tell you that. SO YOUR COUNTRY, RIGHT OR WRONG? Uh, no. Not right or wrong. But Im proud to be an American. I love my country. Ive seen the depressions and how people live in other countries and how theyre told what to be, and they dont have the choices that we have. I do love that about our country. So, you know And I actually sympathize with a lot of the soliders, and the military in general, that are trained to go out and protect FOR us, and what they have to go through, its really kind of shitty in a sense that these young kids have to go over there and die, sometimes, for something that isnt our fucking problem. And that kind of sucks. So what I have to do is at least support them, because they dont have the choice that we do. THEY DONT HAVE THE CHOICE BECAUSE? Because theyve decided to fight for our country. AND THEY DECIDED TO DO THAT BECAUSE? [laughs] OF YOUR SONG? Aw, come on. Its not like that. WELL I HAVE A QUOTE FROM YOU HERE: WEVE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF OUR COUTNRY AND OUR PRESIDENT, WHEREAS A LOT OF PEOPLE I THOUGHTAND YOU SAID THIS IN 2003 TO MTV NEWS, YOU SAID A LOT OF PEOPLE I THOUGHT LASHED OUT PRETTY QUICKLY AT WHAT WE DID AND I THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT DID EVERYTHING PRETTY CLEANLY AND PUBLICLY AS POSSIBLE. [2] Yeah? WELL, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? That was my opinion at the time. The whole war thing, and trying to keep us up to date like If you remember, back in other wars, we didnt have the opportunity to follow it through the media, and CNN, and the newslive updates and that kind of thing. And I thought that for the most part you know we were allowed to follow it as best we could through the media sources that were feeding us information. [incredulous] YOU DIDNT THINK THE MEDIA WAS BEING CONTROLLED BY THE MILITARY?!? Well, it could be. I dont know. YOU DIDNT LOOK INTO IT? Listen. Are you a fucking government expert? IM NOT TELLING PEOPLE TO GO JOIN THE MILITARY AND THEN NOT KNOWING WHAT THE MILITARY IS DOING. I dont tell people to go join the military!! YOU DONT THINK USING YOUR SONGS THE POWER OF YOUR MUSIC, WHICH YOU WERE TALKING ABOUTHAS AN EFFECT ON THE PEOPLE THAT HEAR IT WHEN IT GOES WITH THE VISUALS THAT THE BEST P.R. PEOPLE IN THE WORLD USE?! Oh man, are you like one of those guys that agrees with some kid that fuckin tied a noose around his neck because Judas Priest lyrics told him to? YOU WERE TELLING ME HOW POWERFUL YOUR MUSIC WAS, AND WHAT AGE THE PEOPLE ARE THAT LISTEN TO IT. AND YOU MUST HAVE THOUGHT , WELL THE NAVY SURE THOUGHT IT WAS USEFUL. SO YOU TELL ME. Hey, listen. The Navy thought. Its the same reason why wrestlers work out to the music, and extreme motorcross riders listen to the music and do what they do. Its ENERGETIC music. Its very ATHLETIC. People feel that they get an adrenaline rush out of it or whatever, so, it goes with whatevers an extreme situation. But I doubt very seriously that a kid is going to join the Marines or the US Navy because he heard Godsmack as the underlying bed music in the commercial. Theyre gonna go and join the Navy because they want to jump out of helicopters and fuckin shoot people! Or protect the country or whatever it is, and look at the cool infra-red goggles. YOU SAID TO MTV, WERE NOT A VERY POLITICAL BAND BUT WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE U.S. MILITARY AND HOW THEY APPROACH THINGS. Listen. Someone turned that around. I never said and how they approach things. OKAY. SO THATS A MISQUOTE. OR SOMETHING, Wow, what WHAT ABOUT THIS? IN 2003 YOU DID A SHOW THAT STARTED WITH VIDEO FOOTAGE OF APACHE HELICOPTERS HONING IN ON A DESERT TARGET INTERSPERSED WITH THE WORDS WE WILL PREVAIL./STRONGER THAN THEM ALL. Say that again? IM READING FROM A BOSTON GLOBE REVIEW OF A SHOW YOU DID AT THE TWEETER CENTER. Yeah. IN FRONT OF 13,000 PEOPLE ON MAY 22, 2003. Yeah, but tell me what it said again. YES SIR. IT SAID GODSMACKS FEROCIOUSLY HIGH ENERGY 90-MINUTE SET STARTED WITH VIDEO FOOTAGE OF APACHE HELICOPTERS HONING IN ON A DESERT TARGET, INTERSPERSED WITH THE WORDS WE WILL PREVAIL/STRONGER THAN THEM ALL. [3] Yeah? SO YOURE USING MILITARYIMAGERYWITH YOUR MUSIC AT YOUR CONCERTS. First of all, it was a COMPUTER image, a computer-animated helicopter that didnt There was no scene of a desert in there. It was a helicopter that rose up from the screen and scanned the audience. It was an EFFECT. And then it shot out missiles that hit the stage. UH HUH Because the intro to Straight Out of Line has the sounds of like, a war thing going on. OH I SEE. SO ITS JUST SORT OF A CONCEPT THING. [pause] WELL YOUVE DONE A LOT TO HELP OUT THE GUYS WHO ARE IN THE MILITARY, WHO ARE STUCK THERE NOW, WHETHER THEY CHOSE TO BE THERE OR THEY GOT HOODWINKED INTO BEING THERE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEYRE IN THE MILITARY. AND THEYRE DOING THEIR JOB. YOU GUYS DID A SHOW FOR THEM AT CAMP PENDLETON Yup. CALLED ROCKIN THE CORPS. AND SO YOUVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF BENEFIT SHOWS [interrupting] Well, like I said, Listen you know, theres a lot of young kids that die for our country, man, and they dont have the choice once theyre in there. THATS RIGHT. So I just feel well you know whatever we can do to say thank you for protecting our country is what we try to do. Im not trying to make this a big political issue. OKAY. HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM JOINING THE MILITARY? No. TO MAYBE EDUCATE THEM AS TO WHATS IN STORE FOR THEM? I dont have enough education in the military to educate them in anything. WOULD YOU LET YOUR MUSIC BE USED FOR ANTI-MILITARY RECRUITING ADVERTISEMENTS? I dont know, I d have to see what that was about. BUT YOUD BE OPEN TO IT? Were open to whatever, as long as its not a Maybelline commercial. [laughs] MAYBELLINES MORE OFFENSIVE THAN THE MILITARY? No. That doesnt quite go with what we do. BUT THE MILITARY DOES?!? Listen. Where are we going with this thing? Is this interview about the government WELL, IVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A PRO-MILITARY Sounds like this is a personal attack or whatever. WELL IVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A PRO-MILITARY BAND AS YOU GUYS. But were not! I think [chuckling] youre making us out to be a little bit more. When were asked about something, we just answer the question. We dont go spend 23 hours out of our day supporting the military and what they do. UM HMM. We just simply, an opportunity came up, they wanted to use some music for a recruit commercial. What are we gonna say, no? YEAH. HOW HARD IS IT TO SAY NO? Why would we, though?!? BECAUSE Is it because you dont feel the same way about the government that we do, makes you right and us wrong? YEAH. WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT? TELL ME WHAT Aw, thats crazy, man! Thats just an OPINION. I CAN BACK MY OPINION UP FROM HERE TO TOMORROW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO ME ALL DAY LONG. Well obviously youve done a lot of research and youve THATS RIGHT, BECAUSE got a different opinion. We dont know that stuff that you know, so WHY DONT YOU DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU GET INVOLVED WITH THESE SORTS OF THINGS? YOURE TALKING ABOUT YOUNG KIDSLIVES. YOURE TALKING ABOUT KIDS [yelling] Would you rather not have us be protected so they can come and overrun our country?!? DO YOU KNOW WHAT A FOOLS ERRAND IS? Im asking you a question! NO ONE IS THREATENING Would you rather us not be protected?!? YOU KNOW WHAT ID LIKE, SULLY? A DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. NOT A DEPARTMENT OF OFFENSE THAT ATTACKS OTHER COUNTRIES SOVEREIGN NATIONS WHO DO THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN US, WHO WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO GO OVER AND INVADE AND CHANGE THEIR GOVERNMENTS. WOULD WE WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THAT TO US? Im not saying HOW HARD IS THAT TO THINK ABOUT? Im not saying that we were right on every war that weve created. I know that weve been damn wrong at times about stuff WHEN HAVE WE BEEN WRONG? [yelling] but they have also been wrong too! WHEN HAVE I dont trust someone like fuckin Sadaam and Osama to come in here and try to control [incredulous] WHEN DID SADAAM TRY TO COME IN HERE AND CONTROL OUR COUNTRY? Dude, [yelling] WHY DONT YOU GO LIVE IN IRAQ THEN IF YOU HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM WITH AMERICA? Why are you here? WHY AM I HERE?!? THIS IS THE TOP COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, MY FRIEND! Well, why do you think so? Because its PROTECTED. NO, ITS NOT BECAUSE ITS ruled our country. NO ONE IS ATTACKING US, MY FRIEND, CERTAINLY NOT IRAQ. EVERY FIRST WORLD NATION SUFFERS TERRORIST ATTACKS. GET USED TO IT. I am used to it. I dont have a problem GET USED TO IT. [laughs] Sounds like you do. YOURE THE ONE THATS SAYING ITS ALRIGHT TO NOT KNOW ABOUT STUFF AND THEN TO SEND OTHER PEOPLE TO DIE IN OUR NAME. I never said that! Dont put fuckin words in my mouth. IVE GOT IT ON TAPE, BRO. Youve got in on tape, bro?!? YEAH. You got me saying its okay for us to attack other countries? I GOT YOU ON TAPE SAYING THEYRE PROTECTING US BY ATTACKING, BY GOING OVER THERE AND TAKING OUT PEOPLE. Listen, dont fuckin turn my words around to make it to what you want it to be! Thats not what I meant and you know that. OKAY, IM SORRY, THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU MEANT. Listen Im not gonna get into a political fuckin conversation with you. This was supposed to be an interview about the band. Where is this going? WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POWER OF YOUR MUSIC AND WHAT YOURE USING IT FOR? What is this for anyway? Who are you working with? IM WORKING FOR MY OWN MAGAZINE, MY FRIEND. Whats it called? [laughing in disbelief] WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WHATS IT CALLED? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Yeah, whats the magazine called? ITS CALLED ARTHUR MAGAZINE. YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT SET THIS UP. Hey I was just told to do press today, man. HEY MAN, YOU GUYS I got a checklist in front of me, and I dont have time for a lot of this bullshit. OH YEAH? So write whatever the fuck you wanna write, because your magazine obviously is that popular. ITS DOING PRETTY GOOD Yeah Im sure it is. All three thousand copies of it [4] ON OUR OWN, WITHOUT ANY CORPORATE SUPPORT. I wish you the best of Why would you waste your time calling a band like us when you dont even give a fuck?!? I CERTAINLY DO GIVE A FUCK. CUZ YOU KNOW WHAT? What is this about?!? BECAUSE LISTEN MAN! YOU KNOW THERES 2800 PEOPLE, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, HAVE DIED OVER IN IRAQ! Yeah? YOU KNOW 30,000 IRAQI HUMANS WHO NEVER DID SHIT TO US HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THE ATTACKS WEVE MADE OVER THERE? [in disbelief] And thats Godsmacks fault? DID YOU KNOW THAT 78% OF WOMEN IN THE MILITARY REPORT CASES OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT? [sarcastic] And thats Godsmacks fault. NO, MAN [sarcastic] That has to do with our new record. OKAY, LETS TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW RECORD. I cant believe this. This is [inaud] LETS TALK ABOUT THAT NEW RECORD, MY FRIEND. Get a life. [hangs up] LETS TALK ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM [/QUOTE]
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