Tookie Williams execution[views:39033][posts:250]_______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 8:07am - Messerschmitt ""] did someone say fried chicken? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 10:17am - Christina ""] I've read just about every post here and this is the trend that I noticed: Bornsovile has used absolutely NO FACTS at all to back up one thing that he posted. Instead, he chose the easy way out of the argument and decided to spew condescending remarks to all of the "Conservatives" that posted here, who are actually using facts to back up what they are writing and who are making sense. I absolutely agree with hungtableed, who seems to really know an awful lot about what he is writing about. To say that not supporting the ACLU is unAmerican is simpy preposterous. They are simply an INTEREST GROUP. If you want to know what the ACLU really supports, here are just a few FACTUAL examples (it's apparent that the ACLU is a left-wing interest group): Removing nativity scenes from public property Banning songs such as Silent Night from schools Refusing to allow students to write about the Christian aspect of Christmas in school projects Renaming Christmas break Winter break Refusing to allow a city sponsored Christmas parade to be called a Christmas parade Not allowing a Christmas tree in a public school Renaming a Christmas tree displayed on public property a Holiday tree In addition to their war on Christmas, the ACLU is all about: Suing states to force them to legalize homosexual marriage Forcing libraries to remove porn filters from their computers Suing the Boy Scouts to force them to accept homosexuals as scout leaders Helping to legalize child pornography (this is fucked up, and if you support this cause then I hope you have a son someday that gets relentlessly sodomized and gutted, then tell me how much you support this cause you sick fuck) Legalizing live sex acts in bars in Oregon Protecting the North American Man Boy Love Association, whose motto is "sex by eight or it is too late" Censoring student led prayer at graduation Removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance Removing "In God We Trust" on our currency |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 10:21am - Joe/NotCommon ""] That picture of the iranian woman being buried alive is so fucking funny. Who cares if they executed the guy, his killing days were over so he no longer served a purpose to me. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 10:29am - Christina ""] One more thing that I noticed, almost everyone here seems to assume that just because someone is a Conservative or is simply against abortion that automatically means that they are a Christian. What a ludicrous way of thinking. That is like me saying that every Liberal is a homosexual. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 10:32am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Every liberal is a homosexual. Christina, I know you are ashamed of all the black cock you consumed in college, but what happens in the dorms stays in the dorms...your parents won't find out so you can relax. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 10:32am - Messerschmitt ""] ooof |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 10:48am - anonymous ""] Joe/NotCommon said:Every liberal is a homosexual. Christina, I know you are ashamed of all the black cock you consumed in college, but what happens in the dorms stays in the dorms...your parents won't find out so you can relax. It was predictable that you weren't going to have a valid rebuttal, but rather resort to an absurd and un-related remark. I know that this is also un-related, but I’m just so curious, Joe, whatever happened to Not Common records? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 10:49am - Christina ""] The previous post was not meant to be anonymous, I typed it. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 11:41am - HailTheLeaf ""] Christina said:If you want to know what the ACLU really supports, here are just a few FACTUAL examples (it's apparent that the ACLU is a left-wing interest group): Removing nativity scenes from public property Banning songs such as Silent Night from schools Refusing to allow students to write about the Christian aspect of Christmas in school projects Renaming Christmas break Winter break Refusing to allow a city sponsored Christmas parade to be called a Christmas parade Not allowing a Christmas tree in a public school Renaming a Christmas tree displayed on public property a Holiday tree Separation of church and state...it's about bloody time someone fought for it. I think chirstians dominate enough in this country, now they bitch about christmas? In addition to their war on Christmas, the ACLU is all about: Suing states to force them to legalize homosexual marriage Forcing libraries to remove porn filters from their computers Suing the Boy Scouts to force them to accept homosexuals as scout leaders Helping to legalize child pornography (this is fucked up, and if you support this cause then I hope you have a son someday that gets relentlessly sodomized and gutted, then tell me how much you support this cause you sick fuck) Legalizing live sex acts in bars in Oregon Protecting the North American Man Boy Love Association, whose motto is "sex by eight or it is too late" Censoring student led prayer at graduation Removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance Removing "In God We Trust" on our currency Wow, maybe if the circumstances surrounding the ACLU's protection of NAMBLA were revealed here it would completely change what you're trying to say... http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200402270920.asp You forgot a few other things the ACLU fights against, like: The Patriot Act that “Intelligent Design” crap they want to teach in our public schools a federal abortion ban torture FBI spying on religious and political groups |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 11:44am - HailTheLeaf ""] wow, I just noticed how many of those things were South Park episodes... |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:12pm - HailTheLeaf ""] Sure, I think NAMBLA are a bunch of disgusting pervs, right up there with the Catholic priests who molest little boys, only they don't try to hide it. tHowever, to blame them for a murder commited by 2 sickos is retarded. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:16pm - the_reverend ""] I keep thinking this is about ted williams |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:19pm - hungta‘bleed ""] Freedom of Speech is not absolute, and you should know that. For instance, you cannot yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre. Publishing material that advocates and encourages that having sex with kids is O.K. is dangerous, and in every sense should be banned. So to say that the ACLU pigs stood up for NAMBLA because of freedom of speech, you are just are retarded as they. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:20pm - brian_dc ""] tookie is dead. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:22pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] anonymous said:Joe/NotCommon said:Every liberal is a homosexual. Christina, I know you are ashamed of all the black cock you consumed in college, but what happens in the dorms stays in the dorms...your parents won't find out so you can relax. It was predictable that you weren't going to have a valid rebuttal, but rather resort to an absurd and un-related remark. I know that this is also un-related, but I’m just so curious, Joe, whatever happened to Not Common records? Absurd and unrelated is my creed, also I didn't read any posts in this thread. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:40pm - Josh_Martin ""] hungta‘bleed said:Freedom of Speech is not absolute, and you should know that. For instance, you cannot yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre. Publishing material that advocates and encourages that having sex with kids is O.K. is dangerous, and in every sense should be banned. So to say that the ACLU pigs stood up for NAMBLA because of freedom of speech, you are just are retarded as they. You're absolutely right. The ACLU supports child rape. You're totally on to them. I don't know what they were thinking, trying to pull a fast one like passing off the legalization of kid fuckery as defending the 1st ammendment, when there's a genius like you out there to stop them. In fact, I'm getting blown by a 6 year old as I type this. |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:47pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Christina said:Helping to legalize child pornography (this is fucked up, and if you support this cause then I hope you have a son someday that gets relentlessly sodomized and gutted, then tell me how much you support this cause you sick fuck) Wishing for someone's unborn child to be raped and gutted isn't exactly the best way of showing that you're for protecting children now is it? Seriously the next time you decide you want to make a point on an internet message board why don't you try not to involve the totally unrelated and bizzare fixation on the physical and sexual abuse of children. This started out as a discussion on Tookie Williams, A GROWN MAN with nothing to do with NAMBLA, until hungtableed tried to poison the well and accuse the ACLU of supporting child pornography. Back on track, I believe that the death penalty is wrong because I do not think a state which derives its power from the people has the right to kill those same people. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:57pm - HailTheLeaf ""] hungta‘bleed said:Freedom of Speech is not absolute, and you should know that. For instance, you cannot yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre. Publishing material that advocates and encourages that having sex with kids is O.K. is dangerous, and in every sense should be banned. So to say that the ACLU pigs stood up for NAMBLA because of freedom of speech, you are just are retarded as they. Missing the point entirely...the case was about a child being murdered, not freedom of speech. Despite NAMBLA being sick fuck-tards, their website didn't make 2 people murder a little boy. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 14,2005 1:08pm - Hoser ""] You all make my ass itch. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 1:09pm - HailTheLeaf ""] I actually like where Joe is taking the topic... |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 1:21pm - hungta‘bleed ""] I take pride in the mess I made here. On a message board filled with opinionated assholes (I'd be the first to admit that I fall in that category as well) all it takes is one 'controversial' statement to get the fucking ball rolling. Look at all the fun we've been having.......... |
| ______________________________ [Dec 14,2005 1:26pm - BSV ""] Christina said:I've read just about every post here and this is the trend that I noticed: Bornsovile has used absolutely NO FACTS at all to back up one thing that he posted. Instead, he chose the easy way out of the argument and decided to spew condescending remarks to all of the "Conservatives" that posted here, who are actually using facts to back up what they are writing and who are making sense. I absolutely agree with hungtableed, who seems to really know an awful lot about what he is writing about. To say that not supporting the ACLU is unAmerican is simpy preposterous. They are simply an INTEREST GROUP. If you want to know what the ACLU really supports, here are just a few FACTUAL examples (it's apparent that the ACLU is a left-wing interest group): Removing nativity scenes from public property Banning songs such as Silent Night from schools Refusing to allow students to write about the Christian aspect of Christmas in school projects Renaming Christmas break Winter break Refusing to allow a city sponsored Christmas parade to be called a Christmas parade Not allowing a Christmas tree in a public school Renaming a Christmas tree displayed on public property a Holiday tree In addition to their war on Christmas, the ACLU is all about: Suing states to force them to legalize homosexual marriage Forcing libraries to remove porn filters from their computers Suing the Boy Scouts to force them to accept homosexuals as scout leaders Helping to legalize child pornography (this is fucked up, and if you support this cause then I hope you have a son someday that gets relentlessly sodomized and gutted, then tell me how much you support this cause you sick fuck) Legalizing live sex acts in bars in Oregon Protecting the North American Man Boy Love Association, whose motto is "sex by eight or it is too late" Censoring student led prayer at graduation Removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance Removing "In God We Trust" on our currency I'd tell you to put this in the Conservative Fact Corner thread but since it does a great disservice to your argument, you better not, you already look pretty stupid. What are you the fucking O'Reilly factor? What another lame attempt to slander and smear me, I love all the reverse psychology "bsv is mean and ignorant and condesending", cry a fucking river build a bridge and get over it and tell your hungtobleed buddy to toughen up and quit the whining. The best part is that you've prooved my point about how the ACLU fights to preserve freedoms along with abolishing restrictions and injustices that are as old and out dated as the year 1775. Thanks for listing all those facts and then spinning it off like as if it's another liberal conspracy designed to overthrow christian values or whatever, we should all feel so threatened by the wrath of the ACLU, them and their pro-constitutional representation of liberty is a massive threat to this system. Don't you realize you're essentially protesting the logical reasoning of the foundation of this country? Smooth, real smooth, I hope that isn't too ignorant and condesending for you. Yeah it's a fucking interest group, cause more than half of the fucking country is INTERESTED in being represented within the government, and guess what it's only getting worse! In the future christians and whites will be the minority, do you really expect a nation to adhere to an outdated code of whatever that is as foreign to them as the idea of us submitting to instant totalitarian mexican rule? try that on for a fucking scenario. TOUGH SHIT, THIS IS AMERICA, THAT IS ALLOWED, IF YOU DON'T LIKE FUCKING LEAVE. The beauty of liberalism is that it promotes the will to power, to seize the day, to be all you can be. That's what makes it different than conservatism. Go ahead spin the olde "how can you say that, it's so ignorant" fucking look it up in the fucking dictionary, or am I gona have to do all the work for you???? |
| ______________________________ [Dec 14,2005 1:28pm - BSV ""] hungta‘bleed said:I take pride in the mess I made here. On a message board filled with opinionated assholes (I'd be the first to admit that I fall in that category as well) all it takes is one 'controversial' statement to get the fucking ball rolling. Look at all the fun we've been having.......... Do you take pride in stimulating a bombardment of enlightenment or do you do it cause you want to say immature things just to piss people off? |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 1:35pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] hungta‘bleed said:I take pride in the mess I made here. On a message board filled with opinionated assholes (I'd be the first to admit that I fall in that category as well) all it takes is one 'controversial' statement to get the fucking ball rolling. Look at all the fun we've been having.......... Don't act like you planned on making this mess to get out of the whole arguement. It's clear from your statements earlier in this thread that you were talking out of your ass and just being a reactionary retard. You've failed to make any points and you haven't "stuck it to those liberal gaywads! OHOHOHOHO!" by pulling the whole "I just said it to stir things up" act. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:27pm - hungta‘bleed ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said Don't act like you planned on making this mess to get out of the whole arguement. It's clear from your statements earlier in this thread that you were talking out of your ass and just being a reactionary retard. You've failed to make any points and you haven't "stuck it to those liberal gaywads! OHOHOHOHO!" by pulling the whole "I just said it to stir things up" act.>> What the fuck are you talking about? When did I say anything about 'trying to get out of the whole argument'? I'll defend my political position all day, just like everyone of you who care enough to inform themselves of the issues we face. I made the first statement about this and I included facts about why I detest the ACLU, it's idiots like you who were the 'reactionary retards' who responded by telling me that I should move to Russia, rather than an educated rebuttal. Show me where I can learn of all the knowledgeable points you made on this issue... |
| ______________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:28pm - BSV ""] that was such a weak cop out, fucking convservatives to scared/retarded to finish the bullshit they start. The best is that everyone except his girlfriend pratically said he was wrong, and he still thinks he's right. and I'M THE IGNORANT ONE???? PUT ANOTHER POINT ON THE BOARD! |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:49pm - hungta‘bleed ""] First of all, I didn't cop out on shit, so fuck you. I'll argue my point of view anyday. If you want to keep insisting that I offered no facts to my arguement, back up a little and read what I had written. Where are all your facts, buddy? Aside from warm shit, you havn't offered one splinter of fact to back up your claim other than by stating the typical kool-aid drinkers responce that the 'ACLU protects our rights' |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:54pm - hungta‘bleed ""] Secondly, in this matter...no one will be considered right or wrong, these are our opinions. The same of which are argued everyday in every form of media we have access to. It is a never ending cycle. You think you're right, and I'll always think I'm right. Anything you say, or anyone says on a non-political message will never convince me that my views are wrong. Just as I would expect that would not change thier beliefs on my opinions that I express. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:55pm - BSV ""] hungta‘bleed said:First of all, I didn't cop out on shit, so fuck you. I'll argue my point of view anyday. If you want to keep insisting that I offered no facts to my arguement, back up a little and read what I had written. Where are all your facts, buddy? Aside from warm shit, you havn't offered one splinter of fact to back up your claim other than by stating the typical kool-aid drinkers responce that the 'ACLU protects our rights' hey einstein, read my fucking post to your girlfriend, she posted all the facts about the ACLU, unfortunately for you they prooved everyone here right. what else do you want facts on? work on your conviction better. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:56pm - BSV ""] hungta‘bleed said:Secondly, in this matter...no one will be considered right or wrong, these are our opinions. The same of which are argued everyday in every form of media we have access to. It is a never ending cycle. You think you're right, and I'll always think I'm right. Anything you say, or anyone says on a non-political message will never convince me that my views are wrong. Just as I would expect that would not change thier beliefs on my opinions that I express. dualism is a bitch. next time don't start a fire you can't put out. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:04pm - hungta‘bleed ""] The point that is attempted to be conveyed in stating that the ACLU attacks religion is that we as citizens are protected with a 'freedom of religion', not a 'freedom from religion'. The fact that the ACLU has crosses torn off of war memorials under the guise of seperation of church and state is a crock of shitty cum. Another great action by the ACLU was when their NY branch sued the state to have a billboard depicting Osama bin Laden with a target on his head to be removed. It was quote "offensive to muslims". The ACLU are at the spearhead of the p.c. movement that is destroying the U.S. Political correctness is fucking gay and is getting out of control. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:07pm - Christina ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said: Wishing for someone's unborn child to be raped and gutted isn't exactly the best way of showing that you're for protecting children now is it? You're obviously missing my point, either that or you know what I meant, but just want to argue with me. What I meant by typing that is you (or whomever supports child pornography) may be all for child pornography right now because it doesn't directly effect your life, but if you have a child someday who gets raped by some sick fuck, are you still going to support child pornography? The answer is obvious. Therefore, if your child getting raped is what it will take for you to be able to comprehend how horrendous child pornography is, then I hope it happens to your kid. BobNOMAAMRooney nli said: Seriously the next time you decide you want to make a point on an internet message board why don't you try not to involve the totally unrelated and bizzare fixation on the physical and sexual abuse of children. Well, seriously, the next time you decide you want to make a point on an internet message board why don't you try reading all of the posts to find out who initially introduced the topic before accusing me of bringing this into discussion. You sound like a dolt. BobNOMAAMRooney nli said: This started out as a discussion on Tookie Williams, A GROWN MAN with nothing to do with NAMBLA, until hungtableed tried to poison the well and accuse the ACLU of supporting child pornography. OK, it’s now obvious to me that you’re an ignoramus and you didn’t even read my initial post. “Accuse the ACLU of supporting child pornography.” Why don’t you do some research on the ACLU and the causes that they support, because I’ve certainly done plenty of research on my own, especially during my first few years of college for Composition and Political Science courses. It is a fact not an accusation that the ACLU wants to legalize child pornography. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:08pm - hungta‘bleed ""] You lean to the Left, I lean to the Right. The only reason why I cannot extiguish this upheaval is simply because my point of view is obviosly out numbered here. You'd be a weak minded fool if you would allow someone's point of view that was expressed over a message board to change your beliefs. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:15pm - ArrowHead nli ""] dan NLI said: jesus fucking christ. READING COMPREHENSION. i didnt say its not reform you fucking jackass. i said the reason for clemency should not be the act of reform in itself, because if that was the case then any asshole who finds jesus should be granted. Again, you don't get it. Reform does not mean finding jesus. That's "reborn". Reform is exactly the argument you've been making. Go look the word up. You said in the first post I quoted that it's not about reform. Then proceded to say that instead of reform people should have to prove they are no longer a threat, and make valid attempts to contribute to society. That's reform dude, you're arguing with yourself over a word you don't understand. Who's the retard? |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:15pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] So the death penalty, arguements for and against it. I want to hear things that go beyond "I THINK THOSE ANIMALS SHOULD ALL BE KILLED!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT I WILL FUCKING PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE AND I HOPE SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY GETS KILLED SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT FEELS!" Here's an issue I have with the death penalty, one of the statements that gets thrown around after an execution is "Finally the victim's family has closure" Do statements such as that imply that our justice system does not work unless someone ends up dead for their crime? Why is the state allowed to murder the felon when we do not allow family members of the victim to kill the murderer out of vengeance? You could argue that family members would kill without looking at all the facts and murder whoever they thought was the most likely suspect because humans are flawed. But aren't many of the politicians who support the death penalty motivated by their own passions and base desire for power with the importance they place on being tough on crime to win votes? |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:20pm - the_reverend ""] my head hurts to much to read this. I just think of all the people out there who are executed and then found innocent a year later. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:22pm - hungta‘bleed ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said: But aren't many of the politicians who support the death penalty motivated by their own passions and base desire for power with the importance they place on being tough on crime to win votes? >> I agree with you here. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:23pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Christina said:BobNOMAAMRooney nli said: Wishing for someone's unborn child to be raped and gutted isn't exactly the best way of showing that you're for protecting children now is it? You're obviously missing my point, either that or you know what I meant, but just want to argue with me. What I meant by typing that is you (or whomever supports child pornography) may be all for child pornography right now because it doesn't directly effect your life, but if you have a child someday who gets raped by some sick fuck, are you still going to support child pornography? The answer is obvious. Therefore, if your child getting raped is what it will take for you to be able to comprehend how horrendous child pornography is, then I hope it happens to your kid. Nope I'm not missing your point, you outright said that if someone supports the ACLU they fully support child pornography and then you wished rape and murder on the child of ACLU supporters. In reality you can support some of the work an organization does while being completely disgusted by their other work. It's part of the compromise of having free speech. Everyone has the right to use their voice no matter how vile they are and if you happen to disagree with them its your right to shout them down. Frankly I'm amazed that people are getting so worked up about rape and murder on this board considering the lyrics of EVERY GOREGRIND BAND EVER. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:23pm - Christina ""] BSV said:Christina said:I've read just about every post here and this is the trend that I noticed: Bornsovile has used absolutely NO FACTS at all to back up one thing that he posted. Instead, he chose the easy way out of the argument and decided to spew condescending remarks to all of the "Conservatives" that posted here, who are actually using facts to back up what they are writing and who are making sense. I absolutely agree with hungtableed, who seems to really know an awful lot about what he is writing about. To say that not supporting the ACLU is unAmerican is simpy preposterous. They are simply an INTEREST GROUP. If you want to know what the ACLU really supports, here are just a few FACTUAL examples (it's apparent that the ACLU is a left-wing interest group): Removing nativity scenes from public property Banning songs such as Silent Night from schools Refusing to allow students to write about the Christian aspect of Christmas in school projects Renaming Christmas break Winter break Refusing to allow a city sponsored Christmas parade to be called a Christmas parade Not allowing a Christmas tree in a public school Renaming a Christmas tree displayed on public property a Holiday tree In addition to their war on Christmas, the ACLU is all about: Suing states to force them to legalize homosexual marriage Forcing libraries to remove porn filters from their computers Suing the Boy Scouts to force them to accept homosexuals as scout leaders Helping to legalize child pornography (this is fucked up, and if you support this cause then I hope you have a son someday that gets relentlessly sodomized and gutted, then tell me how much you support this cause you sick fuck) Legalizing live sex acts in bars in Oregon Protecting the North American Man Boy Love Association, whose motto is "sex by eight or it is too late" Censoring student led prayer at graduation Removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance Removing "In God We Trust" on our currency I'd tell you to put this in the Conservative Fact Corner thread but since it does a great disservice to your argument, you better not, you already look pretty stupid. What are you the fucking O'Reilly factor? What another lame attempt to slander and smear me, I love all the reverse psychology "bsv is mean and ignorant and condesending", cry a fucking river build a bridge and get over it and tell your hungtobleed buddy to toughen up and quit the whining. The best part is that you've prooved my point about how the ACLU fights to preserve freedoms along with abolishing restrictions and injustices that are as old and out dated as the year 1775. Thanks for listing all those facts and then spinning it off like as if it's another liberal conspracy designed to overthrow christian values or whatever, we should all feel so threatened by the wrath of the ACLU, them and their pro-constitutional representation of liberty is a massive threat to this system. Don't you realize you're essentially protesting the logical reasoning of the foundation of this country? Smooth, real smooth, I hope that isn't too ignorant and condesending for you. Yeah it's a fucking interest group, cause more than half of the fucking country is INTERESTED in being represented within the government, and guess what it's only getting worse! In the future christians and whites will be the minority, do you really expect a nation to adhere to an outdated code of whatever that is as foreign to them as the idea of us submitting to instant totalitarian mexican rule? try that on for a fucking scenario. TOUGH SHIT, THIS IS AMERICA, THAT IS ALLOWED, IF YOU DON'T LIKE FUCKING LEAVE. The beauty of liberalism is that it promotes the will to power, to seize the day, to be all you can be. That's what makes it different than conservatism. Go ahead spin the olde "how can you say that, it's so ignorant" fucking look it up in the fucking dictionary, or am I gona have to do all the work for you???? I typed not one slanderous or smearing remark about you, nor did I call you mean or ignorant, so chill the fuck out and re-read what I typed before you cry and make shit up. Unless you actually know what you’re talking about, shut the fuck up. I made not one complaint about America or not liking America so honestly, you sound like a fucking dunce by inferring that I meant anything like that. I absolutely love this country and will never live anywhere else, and just because I don’t agree with a left-wing interest group doesn’t make me unAmerican or mean that I need to leave the country. That is illogical thinking. There seemed to be confusion as to what causes the ACLU supports and so I submitted factual causes that they do support. All I typed about you is that you haven’t used one fact to back up anything that you typed, and rather than having a coherent retort, you decided to name call and avoid the facts. No one is whining about anything, except for you in this response to my first post. We are all simply overly-opinionated people who just so happen to have very different opinions. Your elite attitude fucking sucks. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:24pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Child molestation rules. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:27pm - succubus ""] just wanted to add that the only comment i made in here was a joke...this thread turned quite serious |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:29pm - Josh_Martin ""] Christina said: It is a fact not an accusation that the ACLU wants to legalize child pornography. Could you post a link or something to support that statement please? |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:30pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Better yet, can you post a link of naked 15 year old girls? |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 3:52pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Joe/NotCommon said:Better yet, can you post a link of naked 15 year old girls? I can. www.myspace.com |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 4:38pm - Christina ""] Josh_Martin said:Christina said: It is a fact not an accusation that the ACLU wants to legalize child pornography. Could you post a link or something to support that statement please? Read up on this case that the ACLU lost: New York v. Ferber, 458 U.S. 747. “The ACLU's position is this: criminalize the production but legalize the sale and distribution of child pornography. This is the kind of lawyerly distinction that no one on the Supreme Court found convincing. And with good reason: as long as a free market in child pornography exists, there will always be some producers willing to risk prosecution. Beyond this, there is also the matter of how the sale of child pornography relates either to free speech or the ends of good government. But most important, the central issue is whether a free society should legalize transactions that involve the wholesale sexploitation of children for profit. The ACLU objects to the idea that porn movie producers be required to maintain records of ages of its performers; this would be “a gross violation of privacy." |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 4:51pm - RustedAngel ""] let's talk about things that are way better than this debate [img][img] actually, everything is better than this thread. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 5:01pm - BornSoVile ""] Christina said: Your elite attitude fucking sucks. Hey, I'm not that one that's the jesus freak. I'm the the typical liberal who stands up for the little guy. You get pissed at me for calling you unamerican because you want to restrict an individuals freedom, well tough shit then. You can call me all the names you want, it won't change the fact that you believe in repressing the citizens of the nation under a mandate of god (among other things) and that pisses me off. Me calling you unAmerican and Communist is a compliment towards your blasphemy within your arguement. more later I gotta go to pratice.... |
| ______________________________ [Dec 14,2005 5:10pm - DOM ""] Hey guys look, Abe Lincoln. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 5:11pm - Josh_Martin ""] Christina said:Josh_Martin said:Christina said: It is a fact not an accusation that the ACLU wants to legalize child pornography. Could you post a link or something to support that statement please? Read up on this case that the ACLU lost: New York v. Ferber, 458 U.S. 747. “The ACLU's position is this: criminalize the production but legalize the sale and distribution of child pornography. This is the kind of lawyerly distinction that no one on the Supreme Court found convincing. And with good reason: as long as a free market in child pornography exists, there will always be some producers willing to risk prosecution. Beyond this, there is also the matter of how the sale of child pornography relates either to free speech or the ends of good government. But most important, the central issue is whether a free society should legalize transactions that involve the wholesale sexploitation of children for profit. The ACLU objects to the idea that porn movie producers be required to maintain records of ages of its performers; this would be “a gross violation of privacy." Please post the link correctly. It doesn't work and more than one paragraph is needed to understand the case. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 6:26pm - DomesticTerror ""] I love how "non-liberals" (is that good enough?) think that there is nothing more to being American than being white and showing up to a full time job... |