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Am I the only one...

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[Feb 16,2009 1:31pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
who doesn't care much for guitar solos? I mean, even the Metalcore kids can play solos nowadays. It's nothing special.

I.AM.NOT.IMPRESSED.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:33pm - Martins ""]
Stupid thread.

There are good solos and there are bad solos. You're getting them confused.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:34pm - reimroc ""]
There are solos














and then there are Martinsolos
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[Feb 16,2009 1:35pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
I've heard both good and bad and either way, I'm not fazed by them.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:37pm - Martins ""]
Am I the only one who doesn't care much for guitar? I mean, even the Metalcore kids can play them nowadays. It's nothing special.

I.AM.NOT.IMPRESSED.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:37pm - reimroc ""]
Guitar solos have and always will be a part of music.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:38pm - RichHorror ""]
I like some, but when people say they were a fan of Whathisface's solos on whatever record I want to shove them down the stairs and steal their lunch money. Probably laugh derisively and call them a faggot as well.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:38pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
I'm not saying I don't like them. They add a tasteful aspect to music but as a whole, I don't look for them or go crazy over any particular solo.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:40pm - Martins ""]
Not caring for them is pretty much linguistically equal to not liking.

For example, I DON'T CARE MUCH for you. How do you LIKE that?

Just an example.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:42pm - reimroc ""]
/coffee
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[Feb 16,2009 1:43pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
And I couldn't care less what you think of me. I like that just fine. You don't know me in person, just what you've seen on a message board. So much for that, Julie.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:43pm - Lamp ""]
Guitar solos have their moments but personally I'd take a ripping blast beat any day.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:44pm - Conservationist ""]
Only techno is real
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[Feb 16,2009 1:44pm - MillenialKingdom ""]

Lamp said:Guitar solos have their moments but personally I'd take a ripping blast beat any day.


Exactly. Since I'm a drummer and a vocalist, those are the two things in Metal I notice the most.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:48pm - archaeon ""]
I'm not as much into solos as I used to be. I felt that as a metal band there had to be a solo in EVERY song. which i later on learned was retarded.

MEEDLY
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[Feb 16,2009 1:53pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

Lamp said:Guitar solos have their moments but personally I'd take a ripping bong hit any day.


I feel ya, brother.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:54pm - Lamp ""]
That's funny you should say that, I toked up like, 40 minutes ago.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
I'M CALLING THE COPS
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[Feb 16,2009 2:17pm - Martins ""]

MillenialKingdom said:And I couldn't care less what you think of me. I like that just fine. You don't know me in person, just what you've seen on a message board. So much for that, Julie.


I don't know anything about you besides some religious whatever that I just don't agree with but don't really care about.

I just don't agree with you now too and I was only stating that as an example. Haha. I hate no one except people who capitalize band names.

Besides that. I do think there are good solos. There doesn't have to be one in every song ever but sometimes the way a song is flowing it just SCREAMS solotime. And though it's predictable, you can always wow a listener with your sense of melody. I think so, at least.
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[Feb 16,2009 2:31pm - BSV  ""]
if you don't like METALUCIFER then stop listening to metal.
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[Feb 16,2009 3:18pm - Yeti ""]
i like solos that add atmosphere. meedly weedly is ok sometimes, but i'd rather something like the way Burzum does it. for example, just about over half way through the song "Key to the Gate".
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[Feb 16,2009 3:22pm - MillenialKingdom ""]

Martins said:
I don't know anything about you besides some religious whatever that I just don't agree with but don't really care about.

I just don't agree with you now too and I was only stating that as an example. Haha. I hate no one except people who capitalize band names.

Besides that. I do think there are good solos. There doesn't have to be one in every song ever but sometimes the way a song is flowing it just SCREAMS solotime. And though it's predictable, you can always wow a listener with your sense of melody. I think so, at least.



I'm not religious and I'm not going to sit here all the time and explain my views and defend myself either. It's dumb to not like me because of what you think you know about what I believe in. I'm not going to start this argument because I don't have a problem with you. I don't know you either.

There are good solos and then there's pretentious meedling, which is what most of the guitar virtuoso players do and a lot of Tech Death (although I still like Tech Death). Melody is just as important as aggressiveness.
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[Feb 16,2009 3:28pm - ZJD ""]
how is even the meedliest of guitar soling 'pretentious'? you seem to be talking about guitar solos in general so why the mention of virtuoso players? are you talking more about the necrophagist dude just being a showoff or about guitar solos in general being a waste of time, even when they aren't technically mindblowing?

edit - this was poorly worded. what i mean is; are you saying that you are 'not immpressed' with stuff like Yngwie Malmsteen just because what he plays is way hard, or are you saying that stuff like megadeth and iron maiden would be better without solos? i dont get it.
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[Feb 16,2009 3:29pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
The show-off.
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[Feb 16,2009 3:32pm - Bob Barker  ""]
I appreciate solos when there's no vocals and the guitar player sounds like a robotic wizard.

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[Feb 16,2009 3:34pm - ZJD ""]
ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig?
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[Feb 16,2009 3:42pm - Martins ""]

MillenialKingdom said:
Martins said:
I don't know anything about you besides some religious whatever that I just don't agree with but don't really care about.

I just don't agree with you now too and I was only stating that as an example. Haha. I hate no one except people who capitalize band names.

Besides that. I do think there are good solos. There doesn't have to be one in every song ever but sometimes the way a song is flowing it just SCREAMS solotime. And though it's predictable, you can always wow a listener with your sense of melody. I think so, at least.



I don't have a problem with you.



That's all I was trying to say.
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[Feb 16,2009 5:51pm - pam ""]
I like em but don't think they're necessary for a good song.
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[Feb 16,2009 5:58pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
David Gilmour or GTFO
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[Feb 16,2009 6:00pm - sxealex ""]
bucket head rules
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[Feb 16,2009 6:02pm - AnotherMetalDrummer ""]
What is a guitar solo?
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[Feb 16,2009 6:04pm - swamplorddvm ""]
I think the metalcore kids think it's clever and "oldschool heavyMetal" to do solos.

I love good solos. But sometimes they suck. like reign in blood solo vs. Blindguardian solos. Blindguardian has better solos...
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[Feb 16,2009 6:09pm - AnotherMetalDrummer ""]
I think guitar solo's are crucial in metal. It all depends tho, if the song needs one then yea it should have one.

The one thing that I hate is bands putting guitar solo's in a song that doens't even need a guitar solo. I agree with Swaplorddym, I think alot of these metal-core bands put guitar solo's in their songs because they think that's its "Metal" and the right thing to do.....
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[Feb 16,2009 6:19pm - DrewBlood@Work  ""]
most of my favorite guitar solos aren't from metal songs.

just sayin.
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[Feb 16,2009 6:25pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]

DrewBlood@Work said:most of my favorite guitar solos aren't from metal songs.

just sayin.



:point:
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[Feb 16,2009 6:39pm - ZJD ""]
i cant really think of any good bands with solos that would be better without, but i can think of a bunch of good bands that would be worse without.
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[Feb 16,2009 7:04pm - orgymaggotfeast ""]
some guitar solos are amazing, fun to listen to, and enhance the songs they are a part of.

others are filler.
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[Feb 16,2009 9:47pm - MillenialKingdom ""]

ZJD said:ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig?


In that case, I would have to say all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written by those greats you mentioned. The originals are almost always the best.
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[Feb 16,2009 10:17pm - mortalis ""]

swamplorddvm said:like reign in blood solo vs. Blindguardian solos. Blindguardian has better solos...


but could you imagine a blind guardian solo in angel of death? wouldn't fit the style at all, the chaotic soloing is perfect for slayer.
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[Feb 16,2009 10:22pm - Ryan_M ""]

MillenialKingdom said:It's nothing special.



MillenialKingdom said:They add a tasteful aspect to music


I'm confused.

Personally I think if a guitar player took the time to practice his instrument and get good enough to play a solo, why shouldn't he allow himself a moment in the spotlight and show people what he can do?
I don't care if you take the time to craft your solo note by note or just rip through scales as fast as you can, I'm impressed by them. Whether or not I like their music is a different story altogether but I couldn't solo my way out of a paper bag, so anyone who can play them is pretty talented in my opinion and if they want to throw one in a song they helped write, all the power to 'em.
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[Feb 16,2009 10:25pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
What I meant was that they're not any more special than the rest of the music although some songs are bolstered by a nice solo.
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[Feb 16,2009 10:27pm - MikeofdecrepitudE ""]

Conservationist said:Only techno is real


ding
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[Feb 17,2009 11:29am - ZJD ""]

MillenialKingdom said:
ZJD said:ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig?


In that case, I would have to say all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written by those greats you mentioned. The originals are almost always the best.



so good solos can't be written anymore? do you listen to revocation?

why the fuck do you play music, dude?
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[Feb 17,2009 11:34am - ouchdrummer ""]

MillenialKingdom said:
ZJD said:ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig?


In that case, I would have to say all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written by those greats you mentioned. The originals are almost always the best.



All the good solos have already been written? Please roll 1d20 to see how much less respect you will be given. silly statement. Why even make music? All the good stuff has been done... fuck yourself.
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[Feb 17,2009 11:36am - MillenialKingdom ""]
Awesome. Everything I'm saying is completely over your heads. Good fucking day.
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[Feb 17,2009 11:38am - ouchdrummer ""]
over our heads? How can "all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written" be over anyone's head? Would you mind elaborating in dumb speak?
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[Feb 17,2009 11:39am - Martins ""]
smoke weeeeeeeed
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[Feb 17,2009 11:43am - ZJD ""]
do you know what "over your head" means?
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[Feb 17,2009 11:44am - MillenialKingdom ""]
I'm not saying solos suck or are gay. I'm just saying these days solos don't seem to have "passion" or a whole lot of originality. I'm saying the originals are awesome because they're ORIGINAL. There are some great bands who have good solos in their songs and they fit. Some bands only play them to look cool and THAT'S gay. See what I'm saying?
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[Feb 17,2009 11:44am - Martins ""]
I guess an easy way to solve this is to say "listen to better music."

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