Am I the only one...[views:11306][posts:88]__________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:31pm - MillenialKingdom ""] who doesn't care much for guitar solos? I mean, even the Metalcore kids can play solos nowadays. It's nothing special. I.AM.NOT.IMPRESSED. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:33pm - Martins ""] Stupid thread. There are good solos and there are bad solos. You're getting them confused. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:34pm - reimroc ""] There are solos and then there are Martinsolos |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:35pm - MillenialKingdom ""] I've heard both good and bad and either way, I'm not fazed by them. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:37pm - Martins ""] Am I the only one who doesn't care much for guitar? I mean, even the Metalcore kids can play them nowadays. It's nothing special. I.AM.NOT.IMPRESSED. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:37pm - reimroc ""] Guitar solos have and always will be a part of music. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:38pm - RichHorror ""] I like some, but when people say they were a fan of Whathisface's solos on whatever record I want to shove them down the stairs and steal their lunch money. Probably laugh derisively and call them a faggot as well. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:38pm - MillenialKingdom ""] I'm not saying I don't like them. They add a tasteful aspect to music but as a whole, I don't look for them or go crazy over any particular solo. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:40pm - Martins ""] Not caring for them is pretty much linguistically equal to not liking. For example, I DON'T CARE MUCH for you. How do you LIKE that? Just an example. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:42pm - reimroc ""] /coffee |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:43pm - MillenialKingdom ""] And I couldn't care less what you think of me. I like that just fine. You don't know me in person, just what you've seen on a message board. So much for that, Julie. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:43pm - Lamp ""] Guitar solos have their moments but personally I'd take a ripping blast beat any day. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:44pm - Conservationist ""] Only techno is real |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:44pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Lamp said:Guitar solos have their moments but personally I'd take a ripping blast beat any day. Exactly. Since I'm a drummer and a vocalist, those are the two things in Metal I notice the most. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:48pm - archaeon ""] I'm not as much into solos as I used to be. I felt that as a metal band there had to be a solo in EVERY song. which i later on learned was retarded. MEEDLY |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:53pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Lamp said:Guitar solos have their moments but personally I'd take a ripping bong hit any day. I feel ya, brother. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:54pm - Lamp ""] That's funny you should say that, I toked up like, 40 minutes ago. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 1:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I'M CALLING THE COPS |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 2:17pm - Martins ""] MillenialKingdom said:And I couldn't care less what you think of me. I like that just fine. You don't know me in person, just what you've seen on a message board. So much for that, Julie. I don't know anything about you besides some religious whatever that I just don't agree with but don't really care about. I just don't agree with you now too and I was only stating that as an example. Haha. I hate no one except people who capitalize band names. Besides that. I do think there are good solos. There doesn't have to be one in every song ever but sometimes the way a song is flowing it just SCREAMS solotime. And though it's predictable, you can always wow a listener with your sense of melody. I think so, at least. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 2:31pm - BSV ""] if you don't like METALUCIFER then stop listening to metal. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:18pm - Yeti ""] i like solos that add atmosphere. meedly weedly is ok sometimes, but i'd rather something like the way Burzum does it. for example, just about over half way through the song "Key to the Gate". |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:22pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Martins said: I don't know anything about you besides some religious whatever that I just don't agree with but don't really care about. I just don't agree with you now too and I was only stating that as an example. Haha. I hate no one except people who capitalize band names. Besides that. I do think there are good solos. There doesn't have to be one in every song ever but sometimes the way a song is flowing it just SCREAMS solotime. And though it's predictable, you can always wow a listener with your sense of melody. I think so, at least. I'm not religious and I'm not going to sit here all the time and explain my views and defend myself either. It's dumb to not like me because of what you think you know about what I believe in. I'm not going to start this argument because I don't have a problem with you. I don't know you either. There are good solos and then there's pretentious meedling, which is what most of the guitar virtuoso players do and a lot of Tech Death (although I still like Tech Death). Melody is just as important as aggressiveness. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:28pm - ZJD ""] how is even the meedliest of guitar soling 'pretentious'? you seem to be talking about guitar solos in general so why the mention of virtuoso players? are you talking more about the necrophagist dude just being a showoff or about guitar solos in general being a waste of time, even when they aren't technically mindblowing? edit - this was poorly worded. what i mean is; are you saying that you are 'not immpressed' with stuff like Yngwie Malmsteen just because what he plays is way hard, or are you saying that stuff like megadeth and iron maiden would be better without solos? i dont get it. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:29pm - MillenialKingdom ""] The show-off. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:32pm - Bob Barker ""] I appreciate solos when there's no vocals and the guitar player sounds like a robotic wizard. [img] |
| _____________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:34pm - ZJD ""] ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig? |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 3:42pm - Martins ""] MillenialKingdom said: Martins said: I don't know anything about you besides some religious whatever that I just don't agree with but don't really care about. I just don't agree with you now too and I was only stating that as an example. Haha. I hate no one except people who capitalize band names. Besides that. I do think there are good solos. There doesn't have to be one in every song ever but sometimes the way a song is flowing it just SCREAMS solotime. And though it's predictable, you can always wow a listener with your sense of melody. I think so, at least. I don't have a problem with you. That's all I was trying to say. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 16,2009 5:51pm - pam ""] I like em but don't think they're necessary for a good song. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 5:58pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] David Gilmour or GTFO |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 6:00pm - sxealex ""] bucket head rules |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 6:02pm - AnotherMetalDrummer ""] What is a guitar solo? |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 6:04pm - swamplorddvm ""] I think the metalcore kids think it's clever and "oldschool heavyMetal" to do solos. I love good solos. But sometimes they suck. like reign in blood solo vs. Blindguardian solos. Blindguardian has better solos... |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 6:09pm - AnotherMetalDrummer ""] I think guitar solo's are crucial in metal. It all depends tho, if the song needs one then yea it should have one. The one thing that I hate is bands putting guitar solo's in a song that doens't even need a guitar solo. I agree with Swaplorddym, I think alot of these metal-core bands put guitar solo's in their songs because they think that's its "Metal" and the right thing to do..... |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 6:19pm - DrewBlood@Work ""] most of my favorite guitar solos aren't from metal songs. just sayin. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 6:25pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] DrewBlood@Work said:most of my favorite guitar solos aren't from metal songs. just sayin. :point: |
| _____________________________ [Feb 16,2009 6:39pm - ZJD ""] i cant really think of any good bands with solos that would be better without, but i can think of a bunch of good bands that would be worse without. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 7:04pm - orgymaggotfeast ""] some guitar solos are amazing, fun to listen to, and enhance the songs they are a part of. others are filler. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 9:47pm - MillenialKingdom ""] ZJD said:ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig? In that case, I would have to say all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written by those greats you mentioned. The originals are almost always the best. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 10:17pm - mortalis ""] swamplorddvm said:like reign in blood solo vs. Blindguardian solos. Blindguardian has better solos... but could you imagine a blind guardian solo in angel of death? wouldn't fit the style at all, the chaotic soloing is perfect for slayer. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 10:22pm - Ryan_M ""] MillenialKingdom said:It's nothing special. MillenialKingdom said:They add a tasteful aspect to music I'm confused. Personally I think if a guitar player took the time to practice his instrument and get good enough to play a solo, why shouldn't he allow himself a moment in the spotlight and show people what he can do? I don't care if you take the time to craft your solo note by note or just rip through scales as fast as you can, I'm impressed by them. Whether or not I like their music is a different story altogether but I couldn't solo my way out of a paper bag, so anyone who can play them is pretty talented in my opinion and if they want to throw one in a song they helped write, all the power to 'em. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 10:25pm - MillenialKingdom ""] What I meant was that they're not any more special than the rest of the music although some songs are bolstered by a nice solo. |
| ____________________________________________ [Feb 16,2009 10:27pm - MikeofdecrepitudE ""] Conservationist said:Only techno is real ding |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:29am - ZJD ""] MillenialKingdom said: ZJD said:ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig? In that case, I would have to say all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written by those greats you mentioned. The originals are almost always the best. so good solos can't be written anymore? do you listen to revocation? why the fuck do you play music, dude? |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:34am - ouchdrummer ""] MillenialKingdom said: ZJD said:ok. i think showoff playing like yngwie and even necrophagist account for a pretty small percentage of guitar soloing in metal in general and probably close to 0% in metalcore. what do you think about the presence of solos in bands like death, iron maiden, and metallica? how about rush or black sabbath? danzig? In that case, I would have to say all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written by those greats you mentioned. The originals are almost always the best. All the good solos have already been written? Please roll 1d20 to see how much less respect you will be given. silly statement. Why even make music? All the good stuff has been done... fuck yourself. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:36am - MillenialKingdom ""] Awesome. Everything I'm saying is completely over your heads. Good fucking day. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:38am - ouchdrummer ""] over our heads? How can "all the cool and awesome solos that exist were already written" be over anyone's head? Would you mind elaborating in dumb speak? |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:39am - Martins ""] smoke weeeeeeeed |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:43am - ZJD ""] do you know what "over your head" means? |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:44am - MillenialKingdom ""] I'm not saying solos suck or are gay. I'm just saying these days solos don't seem to have "passion" or a whole lot of originality. I'm saying the originals are awesome because they're ORIGINAL. There are some great bands who have good solos in their songs and they fit. Some bands only play them to look cool and THAT'S gay. See what I'm saying? |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:44am - Martins ""] I guess an easy way to solve this is to say "listen to better music." |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:45am - ZJD ""] so stop listening to shitty music. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:46am - MillenialKingdom ""] True. I do listen to some mediocre bands but I think all of us do at some point. I happen to think I have great taste in music. But that's my opinion. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:47am - Martins ""] WAIT WHAT? I do listen to mediocre bands but my taste in music is great. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:48am - MillenialKingdom ""] I said SOME. There are mediocre bands in every genre of music. I listen to Death, Black, Thrash, Grind, Hardcore, Thrash, etc. and there are some bands who other people think are mediocre and some that aren't. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:49am - Martins ""] I only listen to the sounds of unicorn farts. My taste in music is great. lol just saying |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:50am - MillenialKingdom ""] Sick brah. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:52am - ZJD ""] MillenialKingdom said:True. I do listen to some mediocre bands but I think all of us do at some point. I happen to think I have great taste in music. But that's my opinion. my opinion is that you thought you'd make a thread that people would get behind and they didn't and you suck too bad at the internet to sucessfully save face so you said, as i have quoted, THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER FUCKING READ. if originality is so important, why listen to mediocre bands? why make threads about caring about what music sounds like in the first place if you already know you listen to shit? wtf dude |
| _______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:52am - Lamp ""] Why would anyone listen to mediocre bands? Music is better when you listen to less bands more often rather than listening to a bunch of lame bands just as much as the awesome ones. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:52am - Martins ""] I think your faith in guitars is lackluster. Maybe you've been listening to the wrong music. Listen to Guthrie Govan's Erotic Cakes or look up videos of Frank Gambale on youtube. You can see what you've been missing. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 11:58am - MillenialKingdom ""] Maybe. I'll check it out. You're probably right though. I just like to hear killer riffs more than solos. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:05pm - ZJD ""] after black sabbath, writing killer riffs was just dorky and weak, like, amiright??!?! |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:09pm - MillenialKingdom ""] YAH DUDEGUY MANBRO PUSSY FARTFACE |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:14pm - ZJD ""] because i talk like this. yes. i have class now and then i have to talk to dead people, listen to zao, and ruin the internet. peace, dude. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:15pm - MillenialKingdom ""] You like Zao? |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:17pm - ZJD ""] no, who likes zao? |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:21pm - ZJD ""] just kidding, I DO! other things i like: dragging out my own humiliation showing people how much i don't care but insisting that i don't care believing in magic listening to job for a cowboy being wrong about everything |
| _______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:21pm - Lamp ""] Ryan, you're talking to a dude who loves Zao. lolz0rate |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:23pm - ZJD ""] lamp, you should give zao a shot, they are actually really cool and have killer riffs. you're too aggro, man. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:25pm - Lamp ""] Yo bro, that's all cool but no need to harsh my marshmellow. I'll get down with the sickness right after this killer brodown breakdown, then the subsequent hair combing. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:32pm - ZJD ""] really though i'm late for bible study, i mean class. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 12:36pm - ouchdrummer ""] wow. I must admit, i really liked Zao during the two records "the splinter shards the birth" and "where blood and fire" but i was also about 14 at that point. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 1:04pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Zao is one of my favorite bands. I've been listening to them since middle school. I didn't anyone else liked them here. Cool potatoes. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 1:09pm - ouchdrummer ""] i saw em (zao) with 40days rain year of our lord Piecemeal at the old mama-kin music hall on a Monday night about 10years ago. My nose got FUCKED up at that show. Great show, although one of TYOOLs' friends got naked in the pit and was doing cartwheel/spinkick combos with sack flying everywhere. It was scary, yet provocative. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 1:10pm - MillenialKingdom ""] I still haven't seen them live and that is a big goal for me. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 1:15pm - Martins ""] bennyhillifier |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 1:27pm - ouchdrummer ""] MillenialKingdom said:I still haven't seen them live and that is a big goal for me. They were always pretty good live, i just didn't like all the makeup they wore after "liberate te". Cross dressing Christians? I don't get it. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 2:35pm - MillenialKingdom ""] I think you're referring to their drummer. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 2:38pm - ouchdrummer ""] MillenialKingdom said:I think you're referring to their drummer. Nope, definitely not. I dunno if you've looked inside "liberate te" but they all wear it, and they all did it live for a stint. It always confused me. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 2:42pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Well, I have all their albums so I know what you're referring to but I'm positive it was only their drummer who was into the glam thing for awhile. The eyeshadowed eye on the cover of Liberate is Jesse Smith's eye (drummer). |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 2:46pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] ZJD said:just kidding, I DO! other things i like: dragging out my own humiliation showing people how much i don't care but insisting that i don't care believing in magic listening to job for a cowboy being wrong about everything ROFLFLFLFL MillenialKingdom said:Zao is one of my favorite bands. I've been listening to them since middle school. I didn't anyone else liked them here. Cool potatoes. Guys, I don't think you're using the sarcasm meter right. SM 101 |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 4:56pm - MillenialKingdom ""] He was being a smart ass but I wasn't. But here, this is sarcastic: [img] |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 7:44pm - aegathis ""] MillenialKingdom said:who doesn't care much for guitar solos? I mean, even the Metalcore kids can play solos nowadays. It's nothing special. I.AM.NOT.IMPRESSED. Most guitarists that I know dont care much for solos either, but they pretend too...... |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 7:48pm - get real? ""] as if anyone takes your opinion about any type of music seriously. you know nothing you're most likely not a real 'drummer' or 'vocalist'. I'm surprised that anyone replied to this thread, oh wait, no I'm not. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:16pm - ouchdrummer ""] MillenialKingdom said:He was being a smart ass but I wasn't. But here, this is sarcastic: [img] very nice. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:21pm - Dankill ""] Good solos are awesome. True, it's not the end all be all for a good song, but it never really hurts. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:23pm - moenli ""] am i the only one who just thinks of that Bonnie Raitt song when they read the title of this thread? |
| _____________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:26pm - ZJD ""] isn't that melissa ethridge? |
| _________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 9:26pm - moenli ""] i stand corrected |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 17,2009 10:06pm - MillenialKingdom ""] get%20real? said:as if anyone takes your opinion about any type of music seriously. you know nothing you're most likely not a real 'drummer' or 'vocalist'. I'm surprised that anyone replied to this thread, oh wait, no I'm not. FIGHT ME OR YOU'RE A PUSSY. |