2005 NEMHF news thread[views:129799][posts:245]_______________________________________ [Nov 19,2004 5:09pm - armageddonday ""] I didn't read the threat cause the NEMHF is gay, they should just call it the New England Metalcore Fest. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 19,2004 5:10pm - Josh_Martin ""] Jay was right about one thing though. It does all come down to who Scott likes. Apparantly Scott likes a lot of really gay bands. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 19,2004 5:11pm - Josh_Martin ""] armageddonday said:I didn't read the threat cause the NEMHF is gay, they should just call it the New England Metalcore Fest. I was going to say the exact same thing but then I remembered King Diamond |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 19,2004 5:15pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Mike and I listened to the new KD double live album last night... King is a god among men! |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 19,2004 5:15pm - armageddonday ""] If that's the tour with Satyricon or whoever (can't remember) I'd rather take the bus down to NYC not knowing where to sleep, wonder all night by myself in NYC to go see them than go mangle with all those fags at the NEHMF... |
| ________________________________ [Nov 19,2004 9:12pm - JayTUS ""] Josh: Instead of wasting my time going through everything you wrote, I am going to point out one simple thing you said in your other post that makes everything you said irrelevant. Tons of bands tour all the time All the time as in once a year for a week? Two weeks? Define all the time. Obviously if I work a day job and save up I can to fucking Disneyland if I want to, but I can't go to Disneyland for two months straight and then go back two weeks later for another month or two. Your situation is not the same. Do you think any of these bands that "forms with the intention of making a living off the music" just woke up one day and were able to support themselves without day jobs? Thank you captain obvious. Your point was that the entire industy was not driven by money. I don't want to take away from what you are doing, I don't know what bands you are/were in and I would never disrespect someone who is doing what makes them happy, but people like you are not the industry. I can form a band tomorrow and go on tour if I want to, that doesn't mean a thing. The industry IS driven by money. If it wasn't, you wouldn't need a day job to go on tour. It's as simple as that. Without money, you can do nothing. I don't care how you got it. Being an industry, that implies it is a business, and at the end of the day, business means money. Someone needs to make it to survive. If you're cool with putting out your own music and taking a loss or maybe break even, that's cool. Good for you, and I am sincere about that. But you're in the minority when it comes to the music industry, and that's all there is to it. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 19,2004 9:21pm - JayTUS ""] Joe/NotCommon said:If you think Kevorkian's Angels or any of those bands are only supported by the 4 or 5 people who dig them on this site then you are a moron. There are quite a few people who support underground music that dont post on message boards. I don't really understand why you work for a site called the Underground Scene since you have not once mentioned any underground bands you actually do like. 1. Where did I say they were supported by four or five people? Show me where I said it. Thank you dipshit, I didn't, and that wasn't the point. It's called generalizing, and I know that's a moderately big word, but I have confidence you can figure out what it means without a dictionary. 2. I did not name my site, but you know what? It's a fucking name, and whether you are smart enough to realize it or not, most of the bands we've covered weren't (and in almost every case still aren't) mainstream at the time we covered them. What am I supposed to do, turn my back on the bands I like because a couple other people like them now too? Fuck that shit. I don't believe there is an underground scene anymore. I don't consider your bands or your shows underground. You do plenty of advertising and lots of people go. Your bands (I am assuming) have websites and there are ways of spreading your music all over the internet. That's not underground. You know what else though? Selling 100,000 CD's doesn't make you mainstream. Being on Headbanger's Ball, big fucking whoop, any band on your label could probably get a video on there if they felt like it. Who cares. I can still walk up to anyone on the street and 19 out of 20 are going to say "Shadow who? Killswitch what? Atreyu, isn't that the kid from that movie?" I see plenty of your supposive "underground" bands all over webzines and regular magazines. If I could change the name of my site I would, because even I think it's stupid, but it's not up to me and I could honestly give a fuck. So try again. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 2:25pm - __THeMoor__ ""] I don't know about you guys, but i'm pretty unpicky when it comes to music, so i always have a good time at metalfest. i go for the whole time, enjoy all the hardcore bands AND the metal bands. GASP! some of you guys need to be a little more open minded. closed minded metal head...its like an oxymoron. pretending you're too good for most of these bands is just a bullshit way to elevate yourself. get over it and listen to some fucking music! christ... |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 3:20pm - BornSoVile ""] wow, this thing is 6 months away and everyone's already bashing each other for a spot, I fucking love it, good job guys! |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 6:19pm - Wraithious ""] King Diamond rules, I'm listning to the live abigale tour CD right now, NO PRESENTS FOR CHRISTMAS!!! I can't wait for this, yes, last year sucked, the year before was fairly poor, but before that most years had quite a few good bands. I hope the trend for the fest starts getting back into the more metal bands, and seperates the bands by hardcore one stage, and metal on the other, instead of just doing it alphabetically or however the fuck they have been doing it latly. I'm getting a Hotel for this again this year, maby a bunch of us can hang out and party, I'll bring the weed. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 6:38pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] JayTUS said: What do the names Watchmaker and Kevorkian's Angels mean to anyone that doesn't post on this message board? Odds are, not much. There you go, this is where you said only people on this message board know those bands. Try to insult me all you want, it won't change anything. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 6:49pm - Wraithious ""] I knew about Watchmaker and kevorkian's angels YEARS before I ever started posting on this board. Many other people must too, as the shows I've gone to where they played had lots of people there that seemed to like them alot judging by their reactions to them. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 6:51pm - Wraithious ""] In fact, I still have a fat nugs comic book from at least two years ago, that thing is fucking funny as hell. Buy one 14 pound cheeseburger, get one 14 pound cheeseburger free, that's right, 28 pounds of cheeseburgers for the price of 14 pounds... |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 6:55pm - BestialOnslaught ""] JayTUS said:Blah blah blah... You're still avoiding the issue: lots of Metalheads think this fest is shit. Who cares about your arguments about money running the industry? Who needs your commentary about artistic integrity? It's totally tangential to the main point, and doesn't say anything about making the fest better... Your argument on that seems to be that we should suck it up and enjoy all the shitty metalcore because... well you didn't say why, just because. Well, it's not gonna happen, so why are you even bothering to reply to this thread anymore? |
| _______________________________ [Nov 20,2004 6:56pm - eddie ""] Wraithious said:In fact, I still have a fat nugs comic book from at least two years ago, that thing is fucking funny as hell. Buy one 14 pound cheeseburger, get one 14 pound cheeseburger free, that's right, 28 pounds of cheeseburgers for the price of 14 pounds... What? |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 6:57pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] the fatnugs fanzine was a one issue zine that Beakey from Disengaged wrote way back in like 1999 or something |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 7:07pm - BestialOnslaught ""] I thought there was a 2nd or 3rd issue... I dunno, I saw one when I was working at Wonderdrug, it was entertaining, though a bit more serious music content might have been cool. Why'd they stop? |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 7:09pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Beakey never made anymore then one because nobody else was willing to help him and it was too expensive for him to do alone, if I remember right that was the reason. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 7:21pm - Wraithious ""] That would be awsome if they brought it back, I would even pay for it. ...Simon Says Q- my boyfriend gets limp putting on the condom, what can I do? A- While he's doing that, slip his dick in your mouth and suck that motherfucker dry. If that doesn't work try calling one of your girlfriends over and dyke it out in front of him. If that fails get him a perscription for viagra and dump him for a more potent fat nugger HHHHA AHahahaha |
| ________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 8:11pm - JayTUS ""] BestialOnslaught said:JayTUS said:Blah blah blah... You're still avoiding the issue: lots of Metalheads think this fest is shit. Who cares about your arguments about money running the industry? Who needs your commentary about artistic integrity? It's totally tangential to the main point, and doesn't say anything about making the fest better... Your argument on that seems to be that we should suck it up and enjoy all the shitty metalcore because... well you didn't say why, just because. Well, it's not gonna happen, so why are you even bothering to reply to this thread anymore? My point was simple. The money thing IS an issue. They need to make money, and they do and will. Whether the people bitching here go or not is irrelevant, they're going to sell the place out regardless, tons of people are going to have a great time, and you're going to sit there and be bitter and call it shit. Whoopty-fucking-doo, can't win 'em all. If you don't like the fest, don't go. Drive somewhere else and see the next closest stop on the tours. The end reality is, Massconcerts asked the people that King Diamond hired to book his tour to play the show and the people he hired said yes. I am sure King Diamond has enough authority to say no. So he's as much to blame as anyone. The problem is that lots of metalheads only care about themselves. All you can think of is "me me me." Well, someone else made the decision, now you have no choice but to live with it. You can make the drive somewhere else or you can fork over the money and go to this show. At the end of the day, no one really gives a fuck. It's a lose, lose situation. If they don't book enough metal, people bitch, when they book tours people would want to see, people bitch. Just be happy there are so many people like Scott Lee and Joe that are doing shit like this here on any and every level. Joe and I don't usually see eye to eye, but I respect the hell out of what he does just the same as I do Scott Lee. Without people like them, this New England scene is nothing. Wouldn't you love to be a metalhead living in Iowa? Or Colorado? Or how about Alaska? Alabama maybe? I'm just focusing on the USA alone, if I wanted to I could name places all over the world. Face it, living in New England means you're spoiled fucking rotten when it comes to music. I've seen just about every band I could ever want to see, most of them 5 times over. It's a fucking show. Either go or don't go. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 8:15pm - JayTUS ""] Joe/NotCommon said:JayTUS said: What do the names Watchmaker and Kevorkian's Angels mean to anyone that doesn't post on this message board? Odds are, not much. There you go, this is where you said only people on this message board know those bands. Try to insult me all you want, it won't change anything. Is that what I said? Your comprehension skills blow my mind. Does "odds are, not much" mean "ONLY THE PEOPLE ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD?" I'm pretty confident that just about anyone could figure that out, and the only reason I have to put "just about" is because we run into people like you. And last time I checked, quite a few people post on this message board on a consistant basis, or at the least read it... The point remains, and I am not knocking them. I've checked out some Watchmaker stuff. It's pretty good, and I'd probably like it much more if that was the type of music I was into. I'd love to see them get this show. I could honestly care less who plays. There are going to be plenty of bands I like and plenty that I don't. I choose to focus on the ones I like... |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 8:20pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] You can keep trying to pretend you meant something else, but you aren't fooling anyone. The names Watchmaker and Kevorkian's Angels means something to alot of people all across the entire country, not just to the handfull of people who post on this message board, which is what you implied. Now you can deny it again and pretend you said something else, but then you will look like an even bigger retard. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 8:52pm - JayTUS ""] What do people all across the country have to do with the New England Metal and Hardcore Festival? I hate to break it to you, they are not their target audience. Will people from other parts of the country (and world) come? Duh. But that has more to do with the establishment, not the bands playing... PS - Don't tell me what I implied. You aren't smart enough to do that. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 20,2004 9:12pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Okay you didny imply, it's fairly obvious because you just flat out said it. And for you to try to say someone isn't smart enough is ridiculous because you are pretty stupid and you don't see it I am sure, nobody thinks they are dumb, but it's apparant to everyone else. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 3:46am - BestialOnslaught ""] So I guess we're just supposed to think the lineup is awesome no matter who they put on it, and not discuss the fest unless we have something constructive to say. Obviously anything anyone suggests is going to ruin the fest financially, and we should just be appreciative of all day Metalcore shows, cause they are a true blessing from above. Where's the damn rolling eyes emoticon on this board? |
| ________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:23am - JayTUS ""] Joe/NotCommon said:Okay you didny imply, it's fairly obvious because you just flat out said it. And for you to try to say someone isn't smart enough is ridiculous because you are pretty stupid and you don't see it I am sure, nobody thinks they are dumb, but it's apparant to everyone else. I'll trust your judgement on this one, I am sure you are speaking from experience. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:30am - retzam ""] This is seriously the most pointless boardfight ever. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:38am - JayTUS ""] BestialOnslaught said: So I guess we're just supposed to think the lineup is awesome no matter who they put on it, Well looking at the lineup so far, I don't think you really have much room to bitch. They're pretty much all bands I know people here love. So what if they have bands you don't like, they're going to have bands EVERYONE doesn't like. The fest isn't put together to make one person happy, it's put together to make a lot of different groups happy, and I think they do the best they can. BestialOnslaught said: and not discuss the fest unless we have something constructive to say. Obviously anything anyone suggests is going to ruin the fest financially, Way to be a drama queen, because this is just an idiotic thing to say. Go ahead and bitch all you want, it just looks fucking retarded. You don't like the show, cool, don't go. Simple as that. BestialOnslaught said: and we should just be appreciative of all day Metalcore shows, cause they are a true blessing from above. #1. It has NEVER been an all day metalcore show. Way to grossly exaggerate buddy. #2. Even if I gave you the fact that last years show wasn't that good, I'm still going to say I had a great time regardless. Sometimes shows are about the atmosphere as much as the music. I went and saw a lot of people I was friends with and had a great time, and that's what it should be all about. I guarantee you they add more bands that you like and even more that you don't like. If that is worth spending the money then go, if it's not, wait for the bands to come back... #3. Yes, you should be thankful that shit like this happens in your back yard. In Australia, they're lucky if bands like King Diamond come there once in their lifetime. Metal fan in every country in Asia but Japan will more than likely NEVER see ANY of their favorite band. Same deal with metal fans in the Middle East or Africa and a lot of South American countries as well. People from all those countries would KILL to have a fest like NEMHF every year. It all comes down to the spoiled nature of the New England scene. Every band comes here, so we expect too much. I've got an idea. Since you guys can obviously do a better job putting on a fest then the people with NEMHF, why don't you do one? You can fly in every band you want to and book all the TROO metal bands and absolutely no metalcore. Metalcore bad, troo metal, GOOD! You can have bands drive in from all over the place and pay them extra for going out of their way to do it so you don't have to book any tours. Just let me know how it works out. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 6:20pm - Wraithious ""] JayTUS said: I've got an idea. Since you guys can obviously do a better job putting on a fest then the people with NEMHF, why don't you do one? You can fly in every band you want to and book all the TROO metal bands and absolutely no metalcore. Metalcore bad, troo metal, GOOD! You can have bands drive in from all over the place and pay them extra for going out of their way to do it so you don't have to book any tours. Just let me know how it works out. hhah ahah aha ha haha, if he only knew... |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 6:35pm - BornSoVile ""] this popcorn is mint, thanks for the entertainment. |
| ______________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 7:03pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I thought South America got a fair amount of metal bands to tour there. The next time Gorgoroth or some other band that can't get into the US do a South American tour would anyone else want to drive down the Pan American highway to see them? |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:30pm - BestialOnslaught ""] There are only 2 things remotely worth addressing. JayTUS said:Well looking at the lineup so far, I don't think you really have much room to bitch. They're pretty much all bands I know people here love. So what if they have bands you don't like, they're going to have bands EVERYONE doesn't like. The fest isn't put together to make one person happy, it's put together to make a lot of different groups happy, and I think they do the best they can. When did I say they had to have only bands I like? It's a matter of balance. In recent years, I haven't gone because they have had ZERO bands I wanted to see, or maybe 3-4... From my point of view it's a huge shame that we DO have this "blessing" of a fest in our backyard and it goes to waste with such shitty lineups. I am not asking to like every band on the fest, I am asking for maybe 10 bands (out of the 80-100 on the fest) that I wanna see... Is that really too much to ask if they want $50-60 for a 3 day pass? As for me not having room to bitch this year, we'll see. As it stands, all I HAVE to see is KING DIAMOND... Mild interest in seeing HYPOCRISY and BEHEMOTH again. I'm withholding judgement till the full lineup is out but you shouldn't assume that everyone is thrilled to see the same shitty bands you are psyched for. I've got an idea. Since you guys can obviously do a better job putting on a fest then the people with NEMHF, why don't you do one? You can fly in every band you want to and book all the TROO metal bands and absolutely no metalcore. Metalcore bad, troo metal, GOOD! You can have bands drive in from all over the place and pay them extra for going out of their way to do it so you don't have to book any tours. Just let me know how it works out. Some of us are trying to move in this direction but it's not so easy when you don't work for Massconcerts and have a venue like the Palladium at your disposal. In the meantime, I can only hope the NEMHCF team does MUCH better than they have for the past few years - this being a local Metal and Hardcore forum, I feel it's a pretty damn appropriate place to express this. If you don't care about reading such opinions, maybe you shouldn't keep reading this thread. If you can't deal with different opinions from your own, maybe you should start your own board and ban everyone who doesn't agree with you. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:30pm - BestialOnslaught ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:I thought South America got a fair amount of metal bands to tour there. In some places yes. He's just talking out his ass. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:36pm - attendmyrequiem ""] wow i didn't realize how fucking hillarious this thread is. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:41pm - attendmyrequiem ""] oh and by the way this is coming from a kid who does enjoy some metalcore. last year's fest was the new england metalcore fest. FACT. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:42pm - swamplorddvm ""] No shit |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 8:43pm - __THeMoor__ ""] BestialOnslaught said:BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:I thought South America got a fair amount of metal bands to tour there. In some places yes. He's just talking out his ass. his point is still valid though, they dont get nearly as many bands as we do. god bless the new england scene |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 9:02pm - BestialOnslaught ""] I agree that we are lucky in some respects, regarding shows... Those of us who've been going to shows for longer than 2 or 3 years in particular ;) That doesn't mean it couldn't be better though. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 9:33pm - JayTUS ""] Some of us are trying to move in this direction but it's not so easy when you don't work for Massconcerts and have a venue like the Palladium at your disposal. In the meantime, I can only hope the NEMHCF team does MUCH better than they have for the past few years - Well about trying to do your own thing, good luck with that, and I mean it. this being a local Metal and Hardcore forum, I feel it's a pretty damn appropriate place to express this. If you don't care about reading such opinions, maybe you shouldn't keep reading this thread. If you can't deal with different opinions from your own, maybe you should start your own board and ban everyone who doesn't agree with you. That's fine, but you're bitching based on speculation. They haven't announced anything yet and you're already crying about it. BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:<<I thought South America got a fair amount of metal bands to tour there.>> In some places yes. He's just talking out his ass. Yeah, if you put together every metal show in ALL of South and Latin America, you MIGHT have the same amount of shows as Rhode Island. I'm certainly not talking out of my ass. They can only dream of having half of what we have up here... |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:21pm - RustedAngel ""] bunch of whiney bitches in here. just shut the fuck up, gaylords. don't like the lineup, sit at home and boycott shows like you always do... jay, give up arguing with this kid, his opinion is 'always' the right opinion. [img] |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:24pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Sorry, but that last bit is just entirely ignorant. They have very active underground scenes in many countries in South America. I trade with labels/distros in S. America, and get mailorder from there. Their titles are usually from S. American bands, but not always - labels down there put out releases by bands from anywhere from Japan to Portugal - as well as the plentiful native S. American bands. They send me show fliers, which are often really pro-looking, occasionally for bands I've heard of, more frequently for others I have not, as there are many active bands in some cities down there. They lack exposure in the press in the US and Europe for the large part, and don't have the funds to tour here in most cases. You accuse me of exaggerating the amount of metalcore on the bill of the fest in hand, yet you have the nerve to totally marginalize an entire continent's contribution to music by comparing it to our smallest state. I'm not gonna go so far as to say it's racist, but to assume that some how the culture of South America is so foreign and out of touch with the rest of the world that there couldn't possibly be an energetic, fresh, and active metal scene there is extremely US/Eurocentric. Yeah, the economy's don't allow for as much activity in some areas, but many of these countries are very much a part of the modern, "civilized" world. Just a small list of Metal bands from South America who have put stuff out on US and/or Euro labels, off the top of my head... I'm sure others could contribute a number of bands: SEPULTURA SARCOFAGO RATOS DE PORAO MYSTIFIER MASACRE HADEZ ROT MORTEM KRISIUN REBAELLION APOCALPTIC RAIDS/APOKALYPTIC RAIDS INQUISITION FARSCAPE AMMIT GOAT SEMEN Blah, that's just the slightest sample... Point is, you couldn't be further from the truth about metal in South America. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:27pm - BornSoVile ""] whoa, alex owns you now! It would be mint if more SA bands came here, Mortem is at the top of my list. |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:28pm - BestialOnslaught ""] RustedAngel said:bunch of whiney bitches in here. just shut the fuck up, gaylords. don't like the lineup, sit at home and boycott shows like you always do... jay, give up arguing with this kid, his opinion is 'always' the right opinion. [img] Are you even paying attention here? There would be no argument, if JayTUS would just accept the fact that possibly some people don't like the fest as much as he does. It's obviously gone on many tangents since then, unfortunately, but the fact still remains that he's just all hurt that we're not kissing Scott Lee's ass. |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:29pm - BestialOnslaught ""] BornSoVile said:whoa, alex owns you now! It would be mint if more SA bands came here, Mortem is at the top of my list. I didn't even mention those hard working bastards in ASCENDANCY played more shows in S. America in 3 weeks than there are in Rhode Island in a 2-3 month period! |
| _________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:37pm - JayTUS ""] Ok, I will admit to obviously not being clear about my point. By metal, I mean everything, not just "metal," I mean all forms of metal and their subgenres and whatever. Obviously there are going to be shows there on the local level and I am sure their labels are just great, but are you really going to compare them to the labels here in America or even in Europe? I'm sorry, it's not the same. I'm talking about a kid sitting at home in Chile or Venezuela dreaming about seeing Crytopsy or King Diamond or Soilwork, or shit, Hatebreed or Slayer even. If they get to see one of these bands once in their lifetime, they're pretty lucky. THESE bands don't go there that often, just like their bands don't come here as much. I do agree that you have a point and understand where you are coming from, but I don't see how you can't see mine... And don't even think about calling me racist. My original point also involved Australia and Asia, you chose to focus on South/Latin America. Both of those countries have all their own labels and shit too, and Australia gets way more then South/Latin America and Asia (minus Japan) combined, but again, it's not the same... |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:38pm - RustedAngel ""] BestialOnslaught said:RustedAngel said:bunch of whiney bitches in here. just shut the fuck up, gaylords. don't like the lineup, sit at home and boycott shows like you always do... jay, give up arguing with this kid, his opinion is 'always' the right opinion. [img] Are you even paying attention here? There would be no argument, if JayTUS would just accept the fact that possibly some people don't like the fest as much as he does. It's obviously gone on many tangents since then, unfortunately, but the fact still remains that he's just all hurt that we're not kissing Scott Lee's ass. I've read enough. So what, you don't like the lineup, you and the rest who don't like it are about 1% vs. 99% who do like it. Scott lee will book whoever he wants to book, just like Joe (or anyone else booking shows) will book whoever he wants to book. It's the same god damn situation, except scott does that for a job and has a staff he needs to pay. Joe actually booked the end / dead to fall which are metalcore bands that go against his label's policy or whatever, but 99% of the time he sticks to his guns on that. Chances are most of the time Scott's not gonna book some foreign underground band no one's ever heard of just to make you and few others happy. |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:47pm - BestialOnslaught ""] I don't have a problem with what Scott Lee does for whatever shows he wants to book. I don't disrespect him or anything, I just don't like his taste in bands. And you're right in that it doesn't matter to them financially whether a few of us go or not, I'm not arguing that. This argument is way beyond that, and you just wanted to stick your two br00tal cents in just to take a shot at me, admit it. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:50pm - RustedAngel ""] BestialOnslaught said:I don't have a problem with what Scott Lee does for whatever shows he wants to book. I don't disrespect him or anything, I just don't like his taste in bands. And you're right in that it doesn't matter to them financially whether a few of us go or not, I'm not arguing that. This argument is way beyond that, and you just wanted to stick your two br00tal cents in just to take a shot at me, admit it. scott doesn't care if don't like his taste in bands, and neither do we. stay br00tal. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 10:51pm - BornSoVile ""] For the record we closed out a 7 day fest in Quito, Ecuador that had 3,000 people there the day we played. that's right a SEVEN DAY FEST. I talked with many people about the scene in countries there, Peru, Ecuador, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, Venezuela, Brasil... South America is interesting. I think this is a dumb thread but yet I feel compelled to post. so anyways, yah. South America isn't as bad as you may think it is. trust me guy. |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 21,2004 11:17pm - BestialOnslaught ""] JayTUS said:I'm talking about a kid sitting at home in Chile or Venezuela dreaming about seeing Crytopsy or King Diamond or Soilwork, or shit, Hatebreed or Slayer even. If they get to see one of these bands once in their lifetime, they're pretty lucky. THESE bands don't go there that often, just like their bands don't come here as much. I am jealous of people in those places for getting to see SARCOFAGO, BESTIAL WARLUST, SABBAT, VULCANO, etc. Yeah, the numbers maybe aren't the same. But maybe to people in South America, KING DIAMOND and SLAYER are legends, but seeing their country's bands may be just as great an experience. I don't claim to know what bands are popular down there among Metalheads in general, I am sure they hold many of their local heros in the same esteem that you hold North American or European bands. I do agree that you have a point and understand where you are coming from, but I don't see how you can't see mine... I do see the point about appreciating it, but like I said before, that doesn't mean we can't reach for more. I would love to get more killer shows going on around here AND go out on tour with bands on my label anywhere that welcomes us basically. And don't even think about calling me racist. Noone's above such a criticism, no matter what efforts you take to be PC. Your specific comparison to Rhode Island was totally uninformed and ignorant, regarding South American culture - you gotta admit that reflects a Primitive Jungle Continent perception. I'm not totally above that myself, but obviously when it comes to Metal, I've discovered the error in such thinking. |