As of 2009 all computers MUST be registered with the US government[views:17346][posts:143]_____________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 9:09pm - the_reverend ""] registered. I need a better secretary. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 9:09pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 9:10pm - RichHorror ""] U DUM HOSER U MAD |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 9:33pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] guns are awesome. and his point is that by registering guns the police and government knows who owns one so they can go out and check up on people in the area of a gun related crime who are registered. this is outrageous seeing how most crimes with guns occur with illegally bought guns anyways. the conspiracy nutjob in me sees gun registration as a way the government knows what door to knock on when it needs to implement martial law. |
| ____________________________ [Nov 5,2008 9:50pm - pam ""] Martins said: pam said:If I were to purchase a gun, I'd happily register for it. I like that things that are solely meant to maim and kill have names attached to them. If you use them responsibly you have nothing to be concerned about. I would do that if I wanted a gun, as is my 2nd amendment right if I so chose. That's the difference between myself and you whining crybabies. Martins said:While I agree you have the Constitutional right to bear arms, I believe you should have to register your weapon. Just let the local authorities know that you have one. If you've used it to murder (not in self defense), I don't think you deserve to own a gun. Otherwise, I feel everyone should be allowed to own a gun and use it in self defense or to hunt game. The reason why I feel the authorities should know you own the gun(s) is for judicial reasons. If a certain gun is registered to a certain person and that certain gun was used to kill another certain person in a non-self-defense scenario, it makes finding the murderer much easier. My point: gun bans are unconstitutional and you should be allowed to own one if you're a responsible citizen. Aw, we agree. Pretty much 100%. Awww <3 |
| ________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 9:57pm - Martins ""] BFFLZ |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 10:05pm - peter griffin ""] [img] I don't see what all the confusion is about... |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 10:09pm - the_reverend ""] hoser would be wrong there since they would know the spec of the gun and maybe the serial of the gun by the marks on the bullet and the pin marks on casing, etc... And someone hits my car and drives off, leaving their bumper at the scene of the crime. Am I not suppose to give the license from the bumper to the police? |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 10:10pm - goatcatalyst ""] Ny girlfriend has her pistol permit. That kinda makes my prick hard. |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 10:49pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] i'm not reading anything in this thread for it is a suckfest |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 11:20pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] the_reverend said:hoser would be wrong there since they would know the spec of the gun and maybe the serial of the gun by the marks on the bullet and the pin marks on casing, etc... And someone hits my car and drives off, leaving their bumper at the scene of the crime. Am I not suppose to give the license from the bumper to the police? DON'T TALK TO POLICE is like the first thing they teach you at Hoodrat Academy. SNITCHES GET STITCHES AND END UP IN DITCHES, FUCK WHITE BITCHES 'TIL YO' DICK ITCHES |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 11:26pm - the_reverend ""] RATS! |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 11:38pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] "FILE DAT SERIAL, FILE IT RIGHT. TAKE DAT GLOCK AND ROB SOME WHITES" Reginald W. White III Hoodrat Academy summa cum laude '94 |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 5,2008 11:39pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] My view is that everyone should have multiple guns and if you don't you're in violation of the constitution and the punishment for such sedition should be death by firing squad. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 12:04am - Paul CNV ""] [img] How are you preparing for the race war? Don't let some Kenyan monkey boss ya around |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 12:18am - the_reverend ""] I'm pretty sure that kenyans can out run bullets. get a gun that shoots swimming pools since he can't swim or float. I'm pretty sure the last black dude that floated on water was jesus. Oi vey, what a miracle we had there. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 9:16am - Josh_Martin ""] Hoser, this is the probably the only issue I agree with you on. 2 things however. One, computers don't kill people so making that comparison is idiotic and I don't care about your gay "feelings". Two, you have to have priorities and the gun issue is extremely low on my list. I'd rather complain about having to register a gun than be complaining about creationism being taught in schools, or having to get a coat hanger next time I knock up some stupid broad, or... well I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 10:31am - Conservationist ""] Hoser said:What...not one reply? Liberals lost their tongue? No, they selectively avoid reality. They are also oblivious to the idea that there's diversity among right-wing viewpoints, or that some people who oppose Obama are not Republicans. It's like watching kindergarteners try to operate chainsaws. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 10:37am - orgymf@work ""] Josh_Martin said:Hoser, this is the probably the only issue I agree with you on. 2 things however. One, computers don't kill people so making that comparison is idiotic and I don't care about your gay "feelings". Two, you have to have priorities and the gun issue is extremely low on my list. I'd rather complain about having to register a gun than be complaining about creationism being taught in schools, or having to get a coat hanger next time I knock up some stupid broad, or... well I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. i dunno josh have you ever performed a coathanger abortion?? it re-defines fun! |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 10:39am - the_reverend ""] this just in, all coathangers need to be registered. I watch south park last night. now that obama won, I don't need to work any more. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 12:01pm - Josh_Martin ""] [img] |
| ______________________________ [Nov 6,2008 12:41pm - Yeti ""] haha thats really good. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 2:04pm - Conservationist ""] We need more abortions, and more eugenic practices in general. Unfortunately, the entitlement party is opposed to that. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 4:48pm - grizloch ""] Im not going to read the majority of the above posts, BUT, when has a computer physically killed someone? now you're going to say "guns dont kill people, people do", ok, whens the last time someone used a computer to physically kill someone? |
| ________________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 5:29pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Hoser said:It's not true...that's my point. It's how being forced to register my guns would make me feel. Obama's voting record on the 2nd Amendment ASS. As real as this sounds, I'm just turning the tables so that non-gun owners feel the same rage that I do when someone says that they think that all guns should be registered. Sorry if I upset anyone, but that's exactly how I feel as a law abiding, tax paying American citizen. You know, the day my computer turns on and then kills a 4 year old when she finds it hidden in my closet, then I will register my computer. Guns =/= Computers Guns =/= Hammers Guns =/= Knives, Forks, Spoons A guns ONLY, SOLE, TOTAL PURPOSE is to project a specially designed object very far, very fast in order to kill or incapacitate. They can be used for "target practice" or for sports, and those are just benign extensions of what they were designed for. In the end, a gun by general standards is a tool of destruction. It can create nothing. It only breaks, destroys, and hurts. A gun cannot do taxes. A gun can not educate children. A gun can not fix a car, build a boat. I am not stating my beliefs on any laws or choices. What I am saying is that I have been hearing gun owners and dealers on the TV and radio since Tuesday saying Gun this, Gun that. Let's consider the facts first. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 7:24pm - concretesean ""] Those are some selective comparisons. What about jackhammers, wrecking balls, dynamite? Those are all tools too. Those opposed to guns seem to have a narrow understanding of them. Hang out with guns in the real world not in hip hop, or on tv. Those guns are for pussies afraid to get their asses beat. While we're at it we might as well ban fishing rods, and sanitizing solutions. Look at England five years after they banned private gun ownership the violent crime rate doubled. However, guns should be registered to promote accountability. There is probably some merit to registering computers but who want that? |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 7:35pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] knuckleheads aint getting the points all those killings and murders and hold ups are done with unregistered weapons anyways. I'm sure all the EL-kai-A-dah don't register there weapons. computers can easily be used to kill, how do you think terrorists communicate and recruit? they drop in at cafes and upload their videos. guns can be used to kill, but also to protect. your freedom of speech, religion, press, and everything else the constitution promises means nothing without a gun to protect it should an overbearing government come and take them away. i'm not saying we should give out weapons to criminals and illegal aliens...crimealians lol at the rev. but if any law is ever passed that prohibits or restricts guns you can make a sure bet all your liberties will be gone within just five years of said bill's passing. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 6,2008 7:54pm - Hoser ""] BINGO. Somebody gets it. My point was not that computers physically kill or hurt people you superficial dorks. They are used in the tracking of prey, by sexual predators to entice and / or seduce kids into meeting that ultimately result in sex crimes and/or murder. Terrorists use them to recruit and distribute propaganda, ultimately leading to more death. I assure you that a computer is far more dangerous in the hands of a wacko than a gun is. It allows them to see and follow everything in the blink of an eye. Everything from selecting targets to tracking law enforcement. It's a tool used to make their job easier. Just as gun makes a job easier. Only with a gun, they have to stop and reload. As he also stated, gun registration would be the stepping stone that leads to greater and greater gun restrictions. If the Constitution can be bent, they will bend it until it breaks. My point is, don't give them a place to start. If you support gun registration, then you absolutely are supporting an un-Constitutional law. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED in·fringe Pronunciation: \in-ˈfrinj\ Function: verb Inflected Form(s): in·fringed; in·fring·ing Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- + frangere to break — more at break Date: 1513 transitive verb 1: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <infringe a patent> 2obsolete : defeat , frustrate intransitive verb |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 7:57pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] grizloch said:Im not going to read the majority of the above posts, BUT, when has a computer physically killed someone? now you're going to say "guns dont kill people, people do", ok, whens the last time someone used a computer to physically kill someone? Monday |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 10:54pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] porphyria said:p.s. I love how everyone who talks about defending their families with a gun like they live in the fucking middle east. that makes sense, because there's never been a violent crime in the United States. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 10:59pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I think Hoser has a valid point, remember when COMPUTERS did this: [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:03pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:I think Hoser has a valid point, remember when COMPUTERS did this: [img] I see your point. You're saying that you didn't pay attention to anything that he said. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:03pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] DaveFromTheGrave said: porphyria said:p.s. I love how everyone who talks about defending their families with a gun like they live in the fucking middle east. that makes sense, because there's never been a violent crime in the United States. where's your critical thinking skills? people are protecting there families by the very simple fact that they have the right to own a gun. if guns were banned tomorrow crime would double. why? because criminals would still be able to buy guns off the black market and would know that most likely the person they attack wouldn't defend themselves. rape would go up because criminals would figure, "hey, there's no way this bitch has got a gun to defend herself" it's the fear of random civilians owning guns that deters most home invasions, rape, robbery, etc. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:04pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] i didn't mean to quote you, i was quoting the man you quoted hahah. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:07pm - the_reverend ""] concretesean: backed. it's like locking your front door. it just keeps the honest people honest. I bet hoser bows down to the oppression of locking his front door when he leaves and regiisters his car every year or two. ok so cr registrtion is used to restrict cars. and nice use of the dictionary hosebean. why don't you look up the word militia too. funny that the same people who print up that say that obama's going to make a national police force. anything over a 22 should be registered. and I would love for owners to be permitted. we do the same for autos, boats, 4-wheels, etc... |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:10pm - the_reverend ""] oh and people with violent crimes on their record or mental illness shouldn't get guns. I also should ever be ablee to buy landmines, hand grenades or rpgs. im uncomfortable with assault rifles in the hands of citizens, but I would accept that if there was more accountability on the cun culture. btw, im actually thinking of getting a 22 and I don't like guns. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:15pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] y_ddraig_goch said: DaveFromTheGrave said: porphyria said:p.s. I love how everyone who talks about defending their families with a gun like they live in the fucking middle east. that makes sense, because there's never been a violent crime in the United States. where's your critical thinking skills? people are protecting there families by the very simple fact that they have the right to own a gun. if guns were banned tomorrow crime would double. why? because criminals would still be able to buy guns off the black market and would know that most likely the person they attack wouldn't defend themselves. rape would go up because criminals would figure, "hey, there's no way this bitch has got a gun to defend herself" it's the fear of random civilians owning guns that deters most home invasions, rape, robbery, etc. Exactly! This right here is the dumbest thing I've ever read: the_taste_of_cigarettes said: Hoser said:It's not true...that's my point. It's how being forced to register my guns would make me feel. Obama's voting record on the 2nd Amendment ASS. As real as this sounds, I'm just turning the tables so that non-gun owners feel the same rage that I do when someone says that they think that all guns should be registered. Sorry if I upset anyone, but that's exactly how I feel as a law abiding, tax paying American citizen. You know, the day my computer turns on and then kills a 4 year old when she finds it hidden in my closet, then I will register my computer. Guns =/= Computers Guns =/= Hammers Guns =/= Knives, Forks, Spoons A guns ONLY, SOLE, TOTAL PURPOSE is to project a specially designed object very far, very fast in order to kill or incapacitate. They can be used for "target practice" or for sports, and those are just benign extensions of what they were designed for. In the end, a gun by general standards is a tool of destruction. It can create nothing. It only breaks, destroys, and hurts. A gun cannot do taxes. A gun can not educate children. A gun can not fix a car, build a boat. I am not stating my beliefs on any laws or choices. What I am saying is that I have been hearing gun owners and dealers on the TV and radio since Tuesday saying Gun this, Gun that. Let's consider the facts first. You don't have shit for facts. Guns separate our society from base feudalism and tyranny. What would you do if cops didn't have guns to protect you? You'd get robbed and beaten and taken advantage of by people stronger than yourself. Guns build respect, by equalizing people. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:18pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] the_reverend said:oh and people with violent crimes on their record or mental illness shouldn't get guns. I also should ever be ablee to buy landmines, hand grenades or rpgs. im uncomfortable with assault rifles in the hands of citizens, but I would accept that if there was more accountability on the cun culture. btw, im actually thinking of getting a 22 and I don't like guns.I'm as pro-gun ownership as they come, but yeah, landmines are more trouble than they're worth. Why are you considering getting a 22? |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:19pm - porphyria ""] as the rev stated, computers are essentially registered...we all have isp's and assigned ip addresses, ect. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:20pm - porphyria ""] DaveFromTheGrave said: porphyria said:p.s. I love how everyone who talks about defending their families with a gun like they live in the fucking middle east. that makes sense, because there's never been a violent crime in the United States. yeah because that's what I was implying.......... but we have far less to worry about than other countries in regards to 'protecting our families, ect'. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:23pm - porphyria ""] porphyria said: If a criminal has a weapon and truly wants to kill you, chances are unless you have your gun in your hands and ready he's going to kill you anyways. In a lot of cases, when a criminal just wants your stuff you'll survive whatever it is, but as soon as you pull out a gun things can escalate and get worse. porphyria said: The only thing I can think of is having an elderly neighbor mistake me for being a burglar by walking in front of his house and shooting me. No thanks. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:29pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] porphyria said: DaveFromTheGrave said: porphyria said:p.s. I love how everyone who talks about defending their families with a gun like they live in the fucking middle east. that makes sense, because there's never been a violent crime in the United States. yeah because that's what I was implying.......... but we have far less to worry about than other countries in regards to 'protecting our families, ect'. We have less crime....and we own guns. HOW BOUT THAT Do you think it's a coincidence? |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:30pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] argument breaker. countries with gun bans communist china communist cuba hitler's germany stalin's russia pretty much every country with a dictator in place has had gun bans or tried to ban guns honestly what will protect you if the government decides to install martial law? what's going to protect you if a riot breaks out in your city one day. now swords on the other hand are dangerous swords will cut a baby in half batman used to suck a lot of dick |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:35pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:42pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] DaveFromTheGrave said: BobNOMAAMRooney said:I think Hoser has a valid point, remember when COMPUTERS did this: [img] I see your point. You're saying that you didn't pay attention to anything that he said. Nope, I'm saying that guns aren't going to save you from hackers on steroids unless paired with a dog and shades. |
| __________________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:45pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] y_ddraig_goch said:[img] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:48pm - the_reverend ""] considering a 22 cause you can have one in NH with out any paperwork. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:50pm - sxealex ""] i'm not against guns... im against carrying them around like an idiot in your car 1. 2 dont you think its good that its illegal to have unregistered weapons otherwise gangs would have a ton of guns legally and no one can do shit... unrelated: for hunting... you should all use a bow and arrow/crossbow it'd be more fun and quiet imo. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:51pm - pam ""] Who is saying gun bans? You guys are retarded. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 6,2008 11:52pm - sxealex ""] also its illegal for people to search your house without a reason so you could potentially stock pile your house with guns as long as you stay out of trouble... |