Return To The Pit compilation?[views:34084][posts:114]_________________________________________________ [Feb 7,2006 10:20pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] hmm so are we just doing NEiWP Vol 2 or are we gonna do the live comp? or both? |
| ______________________________ [Feb 7,2006 10:20pm - Blue ""] i think a double disc (1 studio & 1 live) is a fantastic idea. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 7,2006 11:57pm - SacreligionNLI ""] how many people have live tracks? does this call for a huge show with tons of bands with an awesome live recording company and releasing a live cd as well as a dvd with live footage from said show and the recorded tracks used as the audio track? |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 7,2006 11:58pm - SacreligionNLI ""] i think it does :NEWHORNS: |
| _____________________________ [Feb 8,2006 2:31am - Blue ""] i dont know about that. bands who have live tracks: 2005 1. hellblock6_ on Nov 14, 2005 2. superchrist on Sep 19, 2005 4. demiricous on Jun 27, 2005 5. human_bone_bicycle_sciences_industries on Jun 6, 2005 6. throwing_shrapnel on Jun 6, 2005 7. abhorred on May 16, 2005 8. mercury_switch on Apr 25, 2005 9. raising_kubrick on Mar 28, 2005 10. hatred_alive on Mar 7, 2005 11. the_red_chord on Feb 28, 2005 12. the_hostage_heart on Feb 7, 2005 13. colin_of_arabia on Jan 31, 2005 14. over_the_top on Jan 17, 2005 2004 1. porphyria on Dec 27, 2004 2. continued_without_a_finding on Dec 13, 2004 3. even_death_may_die on Nov 29, 2004 4. clitorture on Nov 15, 2004 5. mucopus on Nov 15, 2004 6. pray_for_a_plague on Oct 11, 2004 7. hand_choke_neck on Aug 30, 2004 8. the_taste_of_silver on Aug 16, 2004 9. disengaged on Jun 28, 2004 10. teratism on Apr 5, 2004 11. random_acts_of_violence on Mar 29, 2004 12. solipsist on Mar 15, 2004 13. terminally_your_aborted_ghost on Mar 8, 2004 15. invocation_of_nehek on Feb 16, 2004 17. the_auburn_system on Feb 16, 2004 18. phantom_limb on Feb 9, 2004 19. aganihm on Jan 5, 2004 2003 1. in_dire_need on Dec 22, 2003 2. shading_the_end on Aug 19, 2003 3. shroud_of_bereavement on Aug 12, 2003 4. ascendancy on Jul 22, 2003 5. shallows_and_flats on Jul 1, 2003 6. deadwater_drowning on Jun 17, 2003 7. the_auburn_system on May 13, 2003 8. maggot_feast on May 6, 2003 9. the_network on Apr 22, 2003 10. kevorkians_angels on Mar 25, 2003 11. umbrella on Mar 18, 2003 12. Since the Flood on Feb 25, 2003 2002 1. envelope on Dec 31, 2002 2. the_blackout on Dec 24, 2002 3. the_failsafe_device on Nov 19, 2002 4. dasai on Oct 29, 2002 5. eyes.like.autumn on Sep 21, 2002 6. held_hostage on Sep 21, 2002 7. in_dire_need on Sep 21, 2002 8. the_automata on Sep 21, 2002 9. upon_crimson_wing on Sep 21, 2002 10. invocation_of_nehek on Aug 6, 2002 11. buried_inside on Jul 30, 2002 12. killing_beverly on Jul 30, 2002 13. held_hostage on Jul 9, 2002 14. letters_from_the_dead on Jul 9, 2002 15. eyes.like.autumn on Jun 11, 2002 16. summer.so.far on May 21, 2002 17. break it up on Apr 23, 2002 18. the Automata on Apr 16, 2002 19. Justice Theory on Mar 19, 2002 20. icarus falls on Feb 19, 2002 21. iRANACH on Feb 5, 2002 2001 1. between two thieves on 2001-12-25 2. Carbon Asphyxia on 2001-12-25 3. Life At Zero on 2001-08-28 4. Halo Suffocation Machine on 2001-08-20 5. In Mourning on 2001-08-14 6. iRANACH on 2001-08-06 7. tears_of_avarel on 2001-07-10 8. My Breath on Glass on 2001-04-24 9. Cannae on 2001-04-17 10. terretron on 2001-03-19 11. Halo Suffocation Machine on 2000-12-25 |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 7:51am - Otto_B.O.L. ""] we can always get a live track, we'll just hook our unit through the house mix w/ a couple extra mics for the crowd. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 9:23am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] holy shit... think about it.... there are some big names in there. plus I am partial to the Aganihm live set ;) |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 9:25am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Today is the Day needs to get in there, and Converge, and then this disc will be fucking boiling maybe get Misery Index on that tour they are doing? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 11:40am - dyingmuse ""] Keen of the Crow and Goddless Rising are playing rttp in may. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 12:50pm - SacreligionNLI ""] ahh yes...i forgot about the live acts that were on RTTP |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 4:07pm - infoterror ""] THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "SCENESTER" AND "SUCCESS" THE SCENESTER PICKS HIS FRIENDS' BANDS, THE TRENDY BANDS, THE HANGERS-ON AND PEOPLE WHO GIVE HIM COCAINE THE SUCCESS JUST PICKS THE GOOD MUSIC |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 6:06pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Infoterror, I rarely ever understand what you're trying to say |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 6:18pm - infoterror ""] WITH LUCK, THAT'S SARCASM IF NOT, MAYBE I AM NOT NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER IN RUSSIA, THE LANGUAGE SPEAKS YOU |
| ____________________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 7:15pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I actually understood him completely this time. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 8,2006 8:34pm - infoterror ""] THE SCARY THING IS I AM THIS BAD IN PERSON BUT WITHOUT TEXT ONLY COME ACROSS AS FRIENDLIER (BECAUSE I AM, OH EMO FAGGOT, ME) |
| ______________________________ [Feb 8,2006 8:51pm - Troll ""] I'd like to see one of my shitty bands get on the RTTP comp but were not that cool. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 9,2006 10:28am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] DrinkHardThrashHard said:I actually understood him completely this time. You understood him? Care to explain it to me? It's like he's talking Babbelfish.com translated Japanese |
| ______________________________ [Feb 9,2006 11:18am - cav ""] this is a great idea. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 9,2006 11:24am - cav ""] Blue said:i think a double disc (1 studio & 1 live) is a fantastic idea. i agree, get all the bands that post on rttp to submit studio tracks...like 20 bands like the last one. then have the live stuff on another cd. we (dour cursiva) actually have a song that we recorded that we havent put on our demo or myspace yet that we could use. have all the bands and a couple labels throw in a few bucks, and its a done deal. oh ya and ill throw Rossi from the departed's name in the hat for artwork. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 9,2006 12:56pm - kessaris ""] it would have to be on CDRs only...or else I won't listen to it |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 9,2006 2:29pm - DreamingInExile ""] kessaris said:it would have to be on CDRs only...or else I won't listen to it I'll boot leg a copy for you, complete with shitty xeroxed cover :nuke: |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 12:47am - Josh_hates_you ""] i'll restate..............volume was supposed to be 2 discs. 40 bands said they wanted in. 23 bands came thru. to release 1000 double discs 1 studio + 1 live means about $2000 needs to be raised. that is 20 bands by $100 or 40 bands by $50. labels are not going to pay to produce a product to be sold for profit by some one else. it needs to be a promotional effort. and furthermore when is the last time you paid more than 5 bucks for a comp?.......never. samplers and comps are handed out for free all the time. there are a million ideas and ways to go with the project and they are all good. but all the ideas on how to make the comp are useless until the funding is figured out. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 9:52am - SacreligionNLI ""] $50 with 40 bands seems more than fair |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 10:15am - ATNFAC_Vokillz ""] ATNFAC will do it again. we have new material recorded and would be down. I will also second ROSSI from the Departed for artwork. |
| __________________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 10:32am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] If this is given away free, or for donations, how does this raise money for RttP? would we just put "donate to RttP" and a link in the liners or something? I'm hoping to raise Aaron some money to keep his work in shape. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 11:57am - Josh_hates_you ""] bands may sell their copies. they may donate towards aaron if they like. i cannot speak for aaron but i think he does this site cause he likes too and he has banners that help pay for the site not to mention being a computer engineer or whatever, i dont think he is starving by any means. 1000 promotional copies with the "rttp" brand on it is a pretty large donation towards the site as is. This time around i think the bands should get 30+ copies assuming it is only 20 bands by 1000 copies. leaving a few hundred for NEMF, MDF, DooM and Grind fest etc. This way the bands will have a majority of them and may sell them to get some of their money back. whoever puts it together should not profit off of everyone elses money. If one person or label where to pay for the whole thing then they should be able to sell it for profit just like a regular record release. |
| __________________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 12:50pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] i think if it ends up being a NEiWP Volumer 2 it should be mastered at a place that specializes in mastering like M-Works or New Alliance (if they have a space to work in by then). the first volume is pretty cool but the mastering is not what it could be. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 12:56pm - Josh_hates_you ""] there was no money raised for mastering. it was not mastered. sorry. thats what i keep saying, finances need to be arranged to pay for these great things. ie. bigger booklets, mastering and double discs are not going to pay for themselves. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 1:00pm - Josh_hates_you ""] we can, A. figure out a way to finace all these things. B. accept the limitations of what we can finance C. keep running in circles with ideas without solutions |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 3:11pm - adam_time ""] i think the biggest issue with the first comp was the sound quality. mastering is an important issue, but bands need to get a solid, good quality recording in so that mastering will even make a difference. if some of those tracks off the first comp were mastered, it wouldn't have mattered, some of the recdings would still sound like crap. there needs to be a submission/review/quality control process before anyone puts in money so the "unprofessional" recordings aren't something you just want to skip over. i don't say this as a "get rid of this band because they're terrible", i personally can't stand listening to a bad recording, and though i love almost every band on the first NEIWP comp, i listened to the cd for a week and forgot i even owned one after that. so before we start talking about putting a comp together, EVERYONE GO GET NEW RECORDINGS! if the recordings sound good from the start, mastering won't matter. Though I think a second edition is a good idea. the thought of a live rttp disc on the NEIWP comp is perfect. if it looked and sounded good, it could sell for 5-10 bucks easy... all we need to do is include RTTP bumper stickers in the package. think about it... New England is Wicked Pissed, Volume 2, Return to the Pit Edition. I'd toss in another 50 to put a track on there, maybe 75 if my band (WTF) got 30 copies. hell, i'll do art for free. paint, print, pencil, ink, computer design, whatever. i didn't go to school for nothin. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 6:11pm - SacreligionNLI ""] Josh_hates_you said:A. figure out a way to finace all these things. where did you get the inserts printed last time and how much did they cost? actually...what was the individual cost for each thing? i.e. blank cd's, inserts, cases |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 6:13pm - SacreligionNLI ""] we, as should everyone, have no problem throwing down like $100 to make this come out awesome also, new alliance will be back in business next week(we just mastered there and he said they were building their new place between the 10th and the 20th |
| _______________________________ [Feb 12,2006 6:18pm - eddie ""] it's too bad josh can't take control of this mess this time. You really need somebody whose more realistic than idealistic. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 6:21pm - SacreligionNLI ""] but it's not that difficult of a thing to do...we just need all the bands involved to buck up and make their donations to the cause how about every band who wants in let it be known so we can get a complete list of who's interested |
| ______________________________ [Feb 12,2006 7:15pm - Blue ""] Josh_hates_you said:C. keep running in circles with ideas without solutions thats exactly what this thread is i thought, simply posing ideas. its not like we have a deadline this time around. so, keep on running in circles with ideas, if thats going to get a better vision going. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 7:29pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] why not just have the band who wanna be in on this give 50 - 75 bucks to help get it produced and packaged. just a thought, i mean nothings for free |
| ______________________________ [Feb 12,2006 7:54pm - Blue ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:why not just have the band who wanna be in on this give 50 - 75 bucks to help get it produced and packaged. just a thought, i mean nothings for free did you totally miss the last comp? how do you think it got pressed? |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 7:56pm - RichHorror ""] IWEIPH'd be into it, provided nobody minds a live track. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 9:19pm - Otto_B.O.L. ""] burden of liberty is totally down, like i stated before. i think $50-70 per band is very cheap to be on a comp. cd that comes fully packaged. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 12,2006 10:34pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] Blue said:whiskey_weed_and_women said:why not just have the band who wanna be in on this give 50 - 75 bucks to help get it produced and packaged. just a thought, i mean nothings for free did you totally miss the last comp? how do you think it got pressed? actually, yeah i did....i had nothing to do with it, and if thats what was done on the last one then why is it such a big deal now. and no im not reading this entire thread |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 13,2006 6:00pm - Josh_hates_you ""] 30 bands @ $75 each = $2250 plus money from sponsors would not hurt either. One standard 2 disc case, 2 discs with 3 color printing, 6-8 page full color foldout or booklet, assembled, wrapped + shipping for 1000 copies = roughly $2000 mastering = $300+ 25 copies to each band. 250 leftover for shows, fests, radio stations etc. these numbers come close to working. 40 bands @$50 or 20 bands by $100 comes up short for mastering. 30 bands would take up about a disc and a half leaving half disc or so for live tracks from the show. Porphyria sacreligion throwing shrapnel hand choke neck Burden of liberty IWEIPH Within The Fray ATNFAC Shroud od Bereavement One of Troll's bands contagion dour cursiva hardtimes are some bands that have posted interest. goratory teratism w/new drummer, new recording LAZ mucopus accursed smite the righteous I, destroyer feed us fetus and whoever the reverend wanted to secure from them labels he spoke of, are some bands i would like to see on plus many more. plus im wicked glad adam time said something about the recording quality. he is dead on in that post. with no deadline that should hopefully not be an issue. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 13,2006 6:12pm - Otto_B.O.L. ""] hey Josh, you can count Bluntface Records in again as a sponsor, if that's needed/helps. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 13,2006 6:13pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] we want in on the live disc. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 15,2006 9:42pm - Josh_hates_you ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:we want in on the live disc. I was under the impression that aaron might choose the live portion being his site, radio show, recordings from the studio. unless by live disc you just mean live stuff in general. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 15,2006 11:23pm - infoterror ""] Please, no Emo or metalcore. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 11:16pm - anonymous ""] any news on this as of late? |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 11:23pm - the_reverend ""] this is an awesome idea. I'm sorry if I seem "hands off"ish about the whole thing, but I will lend my "brand" to the, but I don't want to "taint" it. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 11:39pm - SacreligionNLI ""] i'll just go ahead and confirm us on that one for whenever it's set to go...is there going to be a maximum length the song can be? |
| __________________________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 11:47pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] it should happen in time for the metal fest. that would be ideal again., |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 11:54pm - SacreligionNLI ""] getting them out for that would be optimal but i believe the idea was to take the time to make sure it comes out incredible |