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[QUOTE="ipfreely:1413746"][QUOTE="the_reverend:1413739"]I was shock/not shocked by this. Actually, I'm more shocked that it ended so fast.[/QUOTE] The way you throw a coup is pretty straightforward: first you grab the leader, then grab the media outlets, then put the leader on the media, humiliated. Instead, these people decided to throw the coup while Erdogan was on vacation. And apparently didn’t even attempt to secure him. By the time the coup began, he was already in a secret location. Then the whole thing went straight to hell, very quickly. The coup told people to go home, while Erdogan told his people to go on the street. So the coup supporters were at home, while the Erdogan supporters were out on the streets. This is exactly the opposite situation a coup would want. The coup also started firing on civilians (apparently), which is also something you definitely DO NOT do. That makes even people who were inclined to support it turn against it. The whole thing was a totally sloppy mess.[/QUOTE]
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