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Most black metal is fake

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[Jan 16,2014 3:31pm - conservationist ""]

I think that throughout the course of history, there have always been very few bands that have been able to live up to my standards, at least of black metal… Then there are thousands and thousands of misrepresentations and misconceptions of it. But true and genuine black metal is always something that will always be a minority in the music scene. A small minority even. Then there's all these people that kind of want to… It's just like punk, you know? You have a few real punk bands, and you have a thousand bands that try to do the same thing, but fail because they don't have the right spirit and they don't really believe in it. But at the same time, it fascinates a lot of people, because it is an extreme way of expression, and it is controversial, and it's therefore also popular and people are fascinated by it. That's why it's also so often, like with other forms of extreme art, whatever it may be, that's why it's also so often misused, and just even commercialised, just for the sake of that, horror sells. And extreme metal sells, controversy sells, and that's why there's so many charlatans in this kind of music.

"WATAIN's DANIELSSON: True And Genuine Black Metal Will Always Be A Minority In The Music Scene," Blabbermouth, January 15, 2014



Apparently this guy has some kind of melodic heavy metal band and they're relatively well known, but I've never heard them. I think he makes a good point though. Most black metal is ersatz at best or a forgery at worst.
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[Jan 16,2014 3:32pm - arilliusbm ""]
WATAIN has been cashing in on the dead fad for years now.
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[Jan 16,2014 3:42pm - Yeti ""]
riding on Dissection's coattails also sells.
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[Jan 16,2014 3:43pm - TimRiley ""]
i met erik at a bar in brooklyn last fall. he weighed about 12 pounds, reeked of body odor, and kept mostly to himself smoking lucky strike filterless cigarettes. i talked to him for a bit outside and at the bar in between bands. never listened to watain before i met him (nor have i since). we talked about Worship. an actually good funeral doom band whose frontman leaped of a bridge in Canada to his death; apparently he was friends with the guy. overall, he was an egoless nice guy to talk to. reading this, he seems to have a Varg Vikernes lameness to him. guess there's a difference between talking in person in a civil fashion versus promoting yourself in a public relations parade.
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[Jan 16,2014 4:38pm - the_reverend ""]
I like sworn to the dark a lot, but I don't mind rock and roll black metal.
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[Jan 16,2014 4:41pm - koran koran  ""]
duran duran is more necro that most of the stuff out there. everyone else is simply rehashing ideas from the past 25 years, just don't forget to repress it in a new color every 5 months! these falses are more likely to go to jail for tax evasion let alone stabbing their bandmates to death (FALSE THAI GUY DOES NOT COUNT)

it was dead on arrival....
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[Jan 16,2014 4:42pm - fake judd  ""]
tax evasion? you mean that faggot fake judd?
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[Jan 16,2014 5:01pm - Yeti ""]
rehashing ideas isn't always a bad thing though. when you get down to it, all metal is just a rehashing of Black Sabbath. The idea is to use the idea and do something with it.
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[Jan 16,2014 5:23pm - RTTP DEPARTMENT OF YOU GUYS ARE FAGS  ""]
Fake or not, it's pretty fucking gay.
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[Jan 16,2014 5:49pm - only absurd is real  ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Jan 16,2014 5:53pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Yet you extol Ledney who is the biggest, falsest cunt of them all. Forty-nothing live at home with mom (I should have counted the crucixifixes hung on walls as they were abundant), sweatpant wearing, tobacco chewing, Necrovore plagiarizing, pill swallowing, in-it-for-the-money false fucking halfwit twat.
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[Jan 16,2014 6:52pm - DYA in a supporting role as Redman  ""]
GET'EM
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[Jan 16,2014 8:26pm - KEVORD ""]
And that's why when Ryan was interviewed for the zine I wanted every question to be about Profanatica.
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[Jan 17,2014 12:26am - RTTP DEPT OF CANNED NIGGER RESPONSE  ""]
Most arduous tasks are nigger.
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[Jan 17,2014 1:35am - conservationist ""]

goatcatalyst said:Yet you extol Ledney who is the biggest, falsest cunt of them all. Forty-nothing live at home with mom (I should have counted the crucixifixes hung on walls as they were abundant), sweatpant wearing, tobacco chewing, Necrovore plagiarizing, pill swallowing, in-it-for-the-money false fucking halfwit twat.


Yes, he's totally awesome. Or rather, his art is or can be. I'm not a huge fan of DBAG but Profanatitas and Thy Kingdom Cum are amazing. Only ass is true!

The same is true of other heroes like William S. Burroughs, but less so for the more self-actualized like Huxley, Blake, Nietzsche, etc.
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[Jan 17,2014 10:22am - Snowden ""]

conservationist said:
Yes, he's totally awesome. Or rather, his art is or can be. I'm not a huge fan of DBAG but Profanatitas and Thy Kingdom Cum are amazing. Only ass is true!

The same is true of other heroes like William S. Burroughs, but less so for the more self-actualized like Huxley, Blake, Nietzsche, etc.


He wrote some great books but Nietzsche was a bitter, awkward nerd, the exact opposite of a self-actualized hero.
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[Jan 17,2014 10:32am - arilliusbm ""]
Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.
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[Jan 17,2014 11:01am - shutup biased fagget  ""]

arilliusbm said:Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.


shutup biased fagget
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[Jan 17,2014 11:10am - arilliusbm ""]
Being a biased fagget > being a neutral fagget
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[Jan 17,2014 11:40am - DYA is BRANN AGAIN  ""]

arilliusbm said:Being a biased fagget > being a neutral fagget


A thousand times this.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with no real opinions or capacity for critical thinking?"
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[Jan 17,2014 11:42am - Yeti ""]

arilliusbm said:Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.


this reminds me of a funny quote:

marry a good woman and you'll die a happy man. marry a bad one and you'll die a philosopher.
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[Jan 17,2014 1:00pm - whitenoiseblackchaos ""]
Only Morbid Anal Fog is real! All hail the Nokturnal Bacon Throne!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo3mDaiwNQk&feature=player_detailpage
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[Jan 17,2014 3:14pm - Snowden ""]

arilliusbm said:Any philosopher that isn't a bitter person is doing it wrong.

I'm not disagreeing with you (but Nietzsche is).
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[Jan 18,2014 1:46am - pRick  ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Jan 18,2014 7:27am - geminiII ""]
Yeti, I love your quote. if you marry a good woman you're fine. Otherwise you're just a cold hearted philosopher. Literally perfect. Sums up the life of the Common New England black metal fag man. either you have a good life and the perfect woman. Or no woman and a dilemma dated horrible life. Agreed!
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[Jan 18,2014 11:55am - truequintessence_nli  ""]
All types of metal are 'forgery' Watain fucking blows and he is one to talk if he really thinks his band is so original.
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[Jan 18,2014 12:37pm - conservationist ""]

Snowden said:Nietzsche was a bitter, awkward nerd, the exact opposite of a self-actualized hero.


Actually, there's no evidence of that. He seemed cheerful to those who knew him. A bit obsessive but well within the range of normal.

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[Jan 19,2014 1:17am - Snowden ""]

conservationist said:
Snowden said:Nietzsche was a bitter, awkward nerd, the exact opposite of a self-actualized hero.


Actually, there's no evidence of that. He seemed cheerful to those who knew him. A bit obsessive but well within the range of normal.


Meh, that's not what I've read. But either way, definitely not living the dionysian etc. existence he advocated in writing.
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[Jan 19,2014 6:48am - Captain Obvious  ""]
Most black metal is fake. No shit. [/end thread]


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