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[QUOTE="ShadowSD:1355507"]I think, on a purely objective basis, the argument that local and state issues (state income tax, property taxes, traffic) are the fault of Obama makes no sense, because it's a fact that the last decade as a whole has seen a massive drop in how much money the federal government gives to states and localities; Obama fought that trend somewhat with the stimulus (which was one third money to states and localities), and has been arguing for more of that while the other party has been blocking him and we've been watching that for four years now. Whichever side you agree with, we all watched that happen. And of course the crash of 2008 also left us with a shitty economy that put even more pressure on everyone's wallet blah blah blah everyone knows that. (My point is that it's one thing to say that hey, I'm a conservative and I think the federal government shouldn't spend on states, the states and cities should just tighten their belts - but then you can't at the same time blame the direct effects of that on the very side advocating to give states and localities enough money to avoid having to hike your property taxes and state income taxes to balance their budgets. I know what you might say, well the Democrats in state and local government should have cut more spending instead of raising taxes at all - but how is that the fault of the federal government exactly? It wasn't long ago at all that conservatives in DC would push for more money back to the states and localities so less of that money would be allocated by the federal government. That argument makes a lot of sense to me, what ever happened to that? Their whole economic strategy has dropped good conservative arguments like that and has instead been reduced to buttfucking local economies in whatever way possible while hoping that people who hate Obama will blame him for it anyway - and it does work to some extent because people who hate Obama love to hate Obama, but what job is Congress even being paid for at that point if their entire goal is to purposely piss in the pool and blame the other guy? While doing that on a single issue for a few days to the other party is an old tradition in DC, there's not another example in history of a party in Congress doing that intentionally as a multi-year national economic strategy. Fucking insane.) When it comes to federal taxes, which is the topic of the thread, Obama has cut them more for under $250K/yr than any President, and we only got the two year payroll tax cut because he fought with the other party for weeks over it, it was only on the news every day. But we're supposed to ignore all that objective data because Obama make people mad. Got it.[/QUOTE]
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