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[QUOTE="Yeti:1242523"][QUOTE="hauptpflucker:1242141"]I think the posibility that over the past couple of years people are coming out of their apathetic shells is promising. I think momentum is building for engagement, and engagement is key to "change". Maybe the goals on Wall Street and here are not clearly established, but the important thing is that there is dialogue, there is an exchange of ideas. And there are clearly things the majority of people want that are being ignored even though they are widely publicised. However, mass protests are one way average people can lobby politicians. They want order and civility, when people cry to themselves but say nothing and accept the shit they are given of course those in power listen to $. But when people begin to remind them who is in charge (in an egaged democracratic society) they start to take notice. [/QUOTE] agreed. this current "activism" is a nice gesture in theory, but it will not accomplish anything. do any of the scum in power give a rats ass if 1000 people disagree with their ways? they hold the money, they hold the power. it isn't until the system is gutted, those that have committed blatant crimes are prosecuted, and new heads are brought in that we have any hope for change. i don't think it's as lost as Lamp said, because of what is quoted above. the simple fact that there is more and more dialogue presents a semblance of hope. but it's going to be painful, and it's going to take a long time to undo the web that has been weaved. power will always breed corruption, but i have to believe that the tides can turn. when the bullshit baby boomers are thrown in a stockade, and people from our generation start filling their vacancies, i believe that we do have a chance to regain what was lost. otherwise as Doomkid pointed out, there is no point in continuing on if the collective agreement is that all is lost, all is fucked, lets just walk around as the undead until we actually die. [/QUOTE]
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