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Birthers: You asked for it, you got it. Now get a fucking life.

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[Apr 27,2011 12:04pm - Doomkid ""]
And somehow Trump is trying to take credit: "He should have done it a long time ago. I am really honored to play such a big role in hopefully, hopefully getting rid of this issue," Trump said.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...rtificate_1303910671/?p1=News_links
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Maybe now people will political energy will work on an issue that actually matters more than one fucking iota.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:07pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Death to America
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[Apr 27,2011 12:08pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
gee only took him 2 fuckin years. why didnt just do it in the first place. then there wouldnt be an "sillyness" in the first place.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:11pm - Doomkid ""]
Probably because he provided more than sufficient evidence of his birth over the past 3 years, and hoped that the Birthers would realize they were retards. To acknowledge them would have given them more credibility.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:18pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
or it took him 2 years to come up with a good enough forgery.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:19pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
I dont care if he's from this country or not. he's a snake oil salesmen working for the corporations that run this country. any other asshole they put in office from now on will be exactly the same so it doesnt matter anyways.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:20pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I hope it is a forgery. Just to mock those Birthy cunts.

PS: DEATH TO AMERICA
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[Apr 27,2011 12:24pm - Doomkid ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:I dont care if he's from this country or not. he's a snake oil salesmen working for the corporations that run this country. any other asshole they put in office from now on will be exactly the same so it doesnt matter anyways.


Pessimism is for pussies.

EDIT: ...and I am definitely a huge pussy sometimes.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:26pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
I prefer to be considered a realist. I'm actually a very positive person when its comes to most things - government bullshit is not one of those things.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:26pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
Ill take death to america for 200
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[Apr 27,2011 12:28pm - Doomkid ""]
But your "realism" just seems like an excuse for inaction because everything is already so fucked. Try Pragmatism maybe?
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[Apr 27,2011 12:29pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
The system is broken beyond my means to correct it. If you want to call that "pessimism"so be it. I'd rather allocate my remaining positivity towards living out a good life before it all completely falls apart.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:34pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Howard Zinn told me that corporate interests dictate foreign policy. And I have a hunch a secret cabal of Zionists dictate domestic policy from their clandestine lair just below the Earth's mantle.

Lusitania for 400, Alex.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:35pm - Doomkid ""]
If you believe that the world is broken with no hope of repair I'd say that pretty much fits exactly what pessimism is.

Can your good life not coincide with attempting to make whatever infinitesimal shift you can as an individual?
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[Apr 27,2011 12:38pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
I never said the world was broken. Just our current system of government. I have no desire to try to correct it anymore. I only want to focus on my own life and the lives of the people I care about.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:43pm - Doomkid ""]
Understandable and legit, but I happen to disagree. Howard Roark is not my model citizen.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:45pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I think things will change for the better when bombs rain down on Washington DC
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[Apr 27,2011 12:49pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
I'm doing my part to make the world a better place by making elementary school students listen to Composted today.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:50pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]

BobNOMAAMRooney said:I'm doing my part to make the world a better place by making elementary school students listen to Composted today.


just put Land on a Cock on repeat. let the education flow.
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[Apr 27,2011 12:58pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:I dont care if he's from this country or not. he's a snake oil salesmen working for the corporations that run this country. any other asshole they put in office from now on will be exactly the same so it doesnt matter anyways.


"from now on", as opposed to the previous, legitimate candidates? lol :D
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[Apr 27,2011 12:58pm - thesac ""]

goatcatalyst said:I think things will change for the better when bombs rain down on Washington DC


</thread>
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[Apr 27,2011 1:01pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:
FuckIsMySignature said:I dont care if he's from this country or not. he's a snake oil salesmen working for the corporations that run this country. any other asshole they put in office from now on will be exactly the same so it doesnt matter anyways.


"from now on", as opposed to the previous, legitimate candidates? lol :D



you're right they were all assholes. Kennedy was probably the last legit president and you see where that got him.
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[Apr 27,2011 1:05pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
I'm still waiting for "suspected Hutt sleeper agent William Howard Taft" to provide legal evidence to the contrary.
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[Apr 27,2011 1:06pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Get outta town, Leroy Brown! Kennedy was sketchy as fuuuuuuck. Irish Catholic N to the Nth!!!
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[Apr 27,2011 1:12pm - Sinistas ""]
Kennedy paid off the Chicago Mob (via Sam Giancana) to turn the unions in the 1960 election. Legit isn't a word I'd use for him.
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[Apr 27,2011 1:13pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i'm just going to gracefully exit this thread now. i'll leave a final comment - fuck politics.
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[Apr 27,2011 1:18pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I don't concern myself with politics. So long as they continue to serve the purpose of hastening the end of time, I'll just keep on having great hair, holocausting lobsters and stealing Danzig riffs
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[Apr 27,2011 1:24pm - Alx_Casket ""]
Similarly, my interest in politics only goes this far:

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[Apr 27,2011 1:26pm - Alx_Casket ""]
Why is voting so hard...
http://www.kittywigs.com/wigs.html
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[Apr 27,2011 2:27pm - ark  ""]

goatcatalyst said:Howard Zinn told me that corporate interests dictate foreign policy. And I have a hunch a secret cabal of Zionists dictate domestic policy from their clandestine lair just below the Earth's mantle.

Lusitania for 400, Alex.



THIS


DestroyYouAlot said:I'm still waiting for "suspected Hutt sleeper agent William Howard Taft" to provide legal evidence to the contrary.


AND THAT.
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[Apr 27,2011 2:39pm - arilliusbm ""]
MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OR GTFO
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[Apr 27,2011 2:44pm - ark  ""]
There are actually military joint chiefs of staff calling for serious defense spending reductions and allocations for education and infrastructure. It almost sounds unreal.

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/20...he-militarys-secret-plan-to-shrink/
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/82301/join...fs-of-staff-spend-less-on-military/
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[Apr 27,2011 3:55pm - Botorious N.I.G.  ""]
They're just nervous because every nation with a black leader has failed.
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[Apr 27,2011 4:44pm - Headbanging_Man ""]
If JCS officials are serious about downsizing the military, they need to start by looking at the current active conflicts in which we are involved and discuss removing ourselves. Also shutting the doors on some of the 1000+ overseas military installations we currently maintain... A serious suggestion to close down 1/4 or 1/3rd of these would be a real gesture at anti-militarism. The idea of economic streamlining for the military may be beneficial, but until the military starts to advocate an active retreat from the world of empire, we, and the population of the world, will continue to be fucked by the iron fist of American militarism.

As for Obama, this birther "controversy" has not only provided fodder for the right to build upon, but also has served to entangle many liberals/progressives in the defense of "their" president. That and Trump's possible vote-splitting act are the way the powers that be will return Obama to the Oval Office in 2012, despite the abysmal success of term 1.
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[Apr 27,2011 4:54pm - arilliusbm ""]
ATS Saying its fake:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread694949/pg1
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[Apr 27,2011 5:39pm - Headbanging_Man ""]
I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the WH decided to fake a "long form", even though the short form/Hawaiian records should have settled the issue long ago.
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[Apr 27,2011 9:27pm - the_reverend ""]
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THIS LOOKS SHOPPED. I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME.
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[Apr 27,2011 10:56pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
he shooped da w[ho]op.
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[Apr 27,2011 10:58pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
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[Apr 27,2011 11:11pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]

arilliusbm said:ATS Saying its fake:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread694949/pg1



oh you knew that before going to even visiting the site.
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[Apr 27,2011 11:26pm - pam nli  ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:gee only took him 2 fuckin years. why didnt just do it in the first place. then there wouldnt be an "sillyness" in the first place.


Because he knew damn well it wouldn't make a shit of a difference if he showed them his fucking placenta in a jar in the hospital he was born in. Birthers are not people, they are idiots. You can't reason with idiots. I imagine he was busy for 2 years being the president. It isn't his job to pat the dum-dums on their special little heads.

That said Donald fucking Trump is a legitimate presidential candidate which means we're all fucked to hell anyway.
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[Apr 27,2011 11:28pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i'm moving to the woods.
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[Apr 27,2011 11:32pm - pam nli  ""]
I'm moving to a civilized country.
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[Apr 27,2011 11:43pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Our political system is full of fucking retards.

SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
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[Apr 28,2011 12:04am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

MillenialKingdom said:Our political system is full of fucking retards.

SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM



...

own religion, much?
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[Apr 28,2011 12:06am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
just sayin'.
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[Apr 28,2011 12:13am - goatcatalyst ""]
Bombs, please. I'll gladly be collateral damage. Spare nothing.
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[Apr 28,2011 12:15am - Doomkid ""]

MillenialKingdom said:Our political system is full of fucking retards.

SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM



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[Apr 28,2011 12:19am - Botorious N.I.G.  ""]

MillenialKingdom said:Our political system is full of fucking retards.

SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM
SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM



Get rid of the 'tards. Then it all gets better. But then we don't have liberals.
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[Apr 28,2011 1:47am - BSV  ""]
didn't he have to show it to someone before he became president? i mean, fucking red robin had to get my birth cert in order for me to wash dishes. some serious shit, guy.
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[Apr 28,2011 6:40am - ark  ""]

Botorious%20N.I.G. said:
Get rid of the 'tards. Then it all gets better. But then we don't have liberals.

Keep living in black-and-white land, but I'm certain that if we kill of the 'tards, then we just won't have stupid people. Willing to test this hypothesis.
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[Apr 28,2011 6:48am - arilliusbm ""]
Truthers > Birthers
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[Apr 28,2011 7:33am - Yeti ""]
good, i'm glad he was forced into showing it. as leader of a country, a country with an explicit presidential stipulation of "born in the country", it should have never taken this long to show. will this shut "birthers" up? no, of course not, but at least a document was provided. i think it's ridiculous when people think that just because some government official supposedly saw it when he was elected that it's definitive proof. because our government is so notorious for being open and transparent about everything.
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[Apr 28,2011 7:35am - Yeti ""]
i'm not saying the "birthers" were right, but i do think they had a valid claim. show your fucking birth certificate, it's not that difficult.
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[Apr 28,2011 7:36am - Yeti ""]
i had to show mine just to get a passport, not to become the leader of a country. if people were clamoring to see mine, i'd show it to shut them up.
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[Apr 28,2011 7:57am - Doomkid ""]

Yeti said:good, i'm glad he was forced into showing it. as leader of a country, a country with an explicit presidential stipulation of "born in the country", it should have never taken this long to show. will this shut "birthers" up? no, of course not, but at least a document was provided. i think it's ridiculous when people think that just because some government official supposedly saw it when he was elected that it's definitive proof. because our government is so notorious for being open and transparent about everything.


He already showed proper documentation with the other forms of his birth certificate. My birth certificate that I showed when getting my passport was also the shorter form. Also: check out the fucking crazy proposed changes to the passport application.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/forei...rre-questionnaire-for-passport-apps
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[Apr 28,2011 8:09am - Yeti ""]
i mean for the American public, who he is in charge of. unless it was done to just ruffle the feathers of the general public, which i say good show, we were just trolled by the president.
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[Apr 28,2011 8:19am - the_reverend ""]
I heard that our first few presidents weren't even born in america. They were born in some british colony.
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[Apr 28,2011 8:21am - the_reverend ""]
Also, I just heard a birther on the radio "it is not about the birth certificate. You need to be born of 2 natralized citizens to be president" o rly?
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[Apr 28,2011 8:26am - Doomkid ""]

the_reverend said:Also, I just heard a birther on the radio "it is not about the birth certificate. You need to be born of 2 natralized citizens to be president" o rly?


Yeah, thats for the Birthers who are too lazy to read the Constitution.
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[Apr 28,2011 8:43am - goatcatalyst ""]

the_reverend said:Also, I just heard a birther on the radio "it is not about the birth certificate. You need to be born of 2 natralized citizens to be president" o rly?


I should like to expose my genitals to these birthers' children so that they might be properly naturalized.
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[Apr 28,2011 2:10pm - ShadowSD ""]

Yeti said:i had to show mine just to get a passport, not to become the leader of a country. if people were clamoring to see mine, i'd show it to shut them up.


He showed the same short-form certificate to become President that you showed to get your passport. It's like if they said to you when you tried to get a passport no that's not good enough, get us the long form - which would never happen, as fortunately this level of stupidity only attaches itself to political leaders, because I know I'd sure be pissed if I had to get a longer birth certificate just because my birth name isn't Johnson or Smith.
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[Apr 28,2011 2:12pm - the_reverend ""]
I heard laura engrim or who ever say "so waggy mc finger wag had to show is birth certificate". I hate that bitch.
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[Apr 28,2011 2:58pm - dertoxia ""]

the_reverend said:Also, I just heard a birther on the radio "it is not about the birth certificate. You need to be born of 2 natralized citizens to be president" o rly?


It's not even 2. Only the mother has the be a citizen. So even if Obama WAS born in Kenya, he'd still be able to be president. "Natural born citizen" does not mean "born on US soil."
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[Apr 28,2011 3:12pm - the_reverend ""]
I dub thee der-WRONG-ia.
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[Apr 28,2011 3:14pm - brian_dc ""]

the_reverend said:I heard that our first few presidents weren't even born in america. They were born in some british colony.


SLICED!
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[Apr 28,2011 3:15pm - Yeti ""]

ShadowSD said:
Yeti said:i had to show mine just to get a passport, not to become the leader of a country. if people were clamoring to see mine, i'd show it to shut them up.


He showed the same short-form certificate to become President that you showed to get your passport. It's like if they said to you when you tried to get a passport no that's not good enough, get us the long form - which would never happen, as fortunately this level of stupidity only attaches itself to political leaders, because I know I'd sure be pissed if I had to get a longer birth certificate just because my birth name isn't Johnson or Smith.



i just applied for my passport and i had to show the long form. the short form doesn't work anymore.
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[Apr 28,2011 3:26pm - Moped  ""]
Birthers=Racism! Leave the poor guy alone so he can run this fucking country.
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[Apr 28,2011 3:27pm - thirdknuckle ""]
Ah, but where was he CONCEIVED?
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[Apr 28,2011 3:29pm - Moped  ""]
In the united states of mexico
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[Apr 28,2011 3:44pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

BSV said:didn't he have to show it to someone before he became president?


I think you're thinking of Clinton, here. Think he showed it to a couple of people, actually.

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[Apr 28,2011 3:44pm - ShadowSD ""]

Yeti said:i just applied for my passport and i had to show the long form. the short form doesn't work anymore.


I stand corrected.
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[Apr 28,2011 3:45pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

ShadowSD said:
Yeti said:i just applied for my passport and i had to show the long form. the short form doesn't work anymore.


I stand corrected.



ITT: Tony showed them the "long form"
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[Apr 28,2011 3:45pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
he just whipped it out
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[Apr 28,2011 3:51pm - ShadowSD ""]
Nonetheless, I still think Pam's take on the overall topic is the right one.

Nobody asked any previous Presidents for this, no one cared that McCain wasn't actually born in the US, and none of the people on the radio/TV raising hell about it now would be worried about birth certificates had McCain won, or had a different Democrat like Edwards or Hillary won.
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[Apr 28,2011 3:53pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
its just another act in the media/political puppet show. the only things that matter anymore are ratings and monetary gains.
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[Apr 28,2011 4:16pm - arilliusbm ""]
I'd normally respond in threads like this but I'm too busy at my new job =/
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[Apr 28,2011 4:17pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
didnt hear about the new job. congrats!
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[Apr 28,2011 4:19pm - arilliusbm ""]
thanks. I got a new job photoshopping birth certificates. ZING
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[Apr 28,2011 4:27pm - Headbanging_Man ""]

dertoxia said:
the_reverend said:Also, I just heard a birther on the radio "it is not about the birth certificate. You need to be born of 2 natralized citizens to be president" o rly?


It's not even 2. Only the mother has the be a citizen. So even if Obama WAS born in Kenya, he'd still be able to be president. "Natural born citizen" does not mean "born on US soil."



LOL WUT???


If Obama was born in Kenya, his mother's citizenship wouldn't make a difference. Likewise, if he was born in Hawaii to 2 non-citizens, he would be a natural born USAn. It's about location, nothing to do with parents' citizenship status.
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[Apr 28,2011 4:50pm - arilliusbm ""]
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread695331/pg1

Another ATS thread about it, but this one claiming to find a CIA wording that can only be seen by X-ray.
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[Apr 28,2011 4:56pm - Sacreligion ""]
INB4:


bennyhillifier
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[Apr 28,2011 4:57pm - Headbanging_Man ""]
The population of the ATS forum seems to be more than a little retarded...
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[Apr 28,2011 4:59pm - arilliusbm ""]
It is. There are some brilliant posters but the majority are fools. Only trolling as Phage is real.
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[Apr 28,2011 5:48pm - Doomkid ""]
I'll be sure to post another politically contentious thread tomorrow so you can join the party this weekend.
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[Apr 28,2011 5:49pm - Doomkid ""]
Damn you editing Aril!
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[Apr 28,2011 6:15pm - dertoxia ""]

Headbanging_Man said:
dertoxia said:
the_reverend said:Also, I just heard a birther on the radio "it is not about the birth certificate. You need to be born of 2 natralized citizens to be president" o rly?


It's not even 2. Only the mother has the be a citizen. So even if Obama WAS born in Kenya, he'd still be able to be president. "Natural born citizen" does not mean "born on US soil."



LOL WUT???


If Obama was born in Kenya, his mother's citizenship wouldn't make a difference. Likewise, if he was born in Hawaii to 2 non-citizens, he would be a natural born USAn. It's about location, nothing to do with parents' citizenship status.



"The children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

It's in the Immigration and Naturalization act.
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[Apr 28,2011 6:18pm - dertoxia ""]
http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfreedman/201...ma-doesnt-need-a-birth-certificate/

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[Apr 28,2011 6:18pm - bobnomaamrooney ""]
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
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[Apr 28,2011 7:15pm - Headbanging_Man ""]

dertoxia said:"The children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

It's in the Immigration and Naturalization act.



If I remember correctly though, this really only applies with both parents being citizens and residents, i.e. only temporarily overseas. According to the ever-reliable Wikip., the "natural born" part hasn't been interpreted by the courts, but I can't imagine it would hold with a baby born into foreign residency.

Also:

Here again is the citation at issue from the Naturalization Act of 1790:

"... And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens:"

Here is the portion of the Naturalization Act of 1795 that repealed the Naturalization Act of 1790:

… and the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States.



From this site: http://www.etherzone.com/2008/nath022208.shtml

And some right-wingers have also been offering the debatable opinion that even being born in Hawaii, Obama would have needed 2 citizen parents to count as "natural born".

So there's really no definitive law or ruling, but unless the kid is squeezed out at a foreign military/diplomatic site or while the parents are on an overseas vacation, being born to USAn parents out of the country allows for citizenship, but most likely not the elusive natural-born citizenship.
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[Apr 28,2011 7:25pm - Headbanging_Man ""]
I'm not saying I necessarily believe in/support it, but until the "natural born" part is removed from the Constitution by amendment or clarified, I think anyone born into foreign residence of USAn parents will be able to claim basic citizenship, but won't meet most interpretations of native/natural born.
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[Apr 28,2011 7:29pm - bobnomaamrooney ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Apr 28,2011 7:35pm - Headbanging_Man ""]
Impressive proof...
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[Apr 28,2011 7:39pm - the_reverend ""]
if both your parents are citizens and you are born on a military base in german, you are a citizen.
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[Apr 28,2011 7:40pm - the_reverend ""]
it says nothing about a mother only
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[Apr 28,2011 7:53pm - Headbanging_Man ""]
I actually think the best way to deal with the whole natural-born concept is to define it as those who receive US citizenship on birth, whether through territorial or parental means.

These 2 State Dept. documents didn't clear up a whole lot, but maybe someone else can offer some interpretation. At the very least, the 2nd one states that:

"It has never been determined definitively by a court whether a person who acquired U.S. citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens is a natural-born citizen within the meaning of Article II of the Constitution and, therefore, eligible for the Presidency."

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf
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[Apr 29,2011 12:15am - pam ""]
He's had a copy available online for like what? 3 years now?
Oh but we need the long certificate!
Then they get it and now we're talking about his fucking college transcripts.

Can't they just say "we don't like the blacks"?
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[Apr 29,2011 12:16am - Alx_Casket ""]
tl;dr

http://www.catswearingthongs.org/
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[Apr 29,2011 10:28am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

pam said:He's had a copy available online for like what? 3 years now?
Oh but we need the long certificate!
Then they get it and now we're talking about his fucking college transcripts.

Can't they just say "we don't like the blacks"?



Doesn't fly on a bumper sticker. (Not up here, anyway.)

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