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[QUOTE="brodown:1188150"][QUOTE="ArrowHeadNLI:1188071"]For the record, people that say tiggers make you faster, or better, or are cheating, are idiots. Period. Trigger makes about as much difference in your playing as the mic the soundguy chooses to stick in your bass drum. At least with a trigger, YOU control this choice - not him. A trigger doesn't effect your playing. It just effects the final sound. Cheating with a trigger, - IE using constant velocity to maintain an even kick sound, is NOT DIFFERENT than the soundman slathering compression on your acoustic kick to attain the same fucking result. Difference is, when the soundman fixes it you can play ignorant, and pretend there's nothing wrong with your technique. Whereas with a trigger, you ARE admitting your deficiencies by consciously compensating. [/QUOTE] Triggers definitely don't necessarily make you faster, and they definitely don't make you "better" (which is a whoooole other conversation in and of itself.) However, they ABSOLUTELY change the way you play. It is a whole hell of a lot more difficult to hit hard and fast than it is to hit light and fast (not debatable, its the laws of physics.) Playing triggers takes that entirely out of the equation. Additionally, when you trigger a drum, you no longer have to worry about the acoustic timbre of the drum, and in my experience playing on other people's triggered kits, they tend to tune the kick drum head WAY higher, which results in a drastically different response and feel. (Nevermind an absolutely dreadful sound to listen to if you don't have a monitor wedge blaring kick drum samples in your ear.) I take a lot of pride in making sure that the attack of my kick is audible, even when we're playing in a basement / VFW hall / club with shitty sound. Part of it is equipment (kick pads, wood beaters, iron cobras instead of axis pedals, etc.), and part of it is technique. I also take pride that the low-end of my kick drum gets WAY the fuck down there, both to the ear and especially when mic'ed. If I were using triggers, none of that shit would make any difference, and I could use the axis pedals and tap-tap away on a cardboard box. While I definitely appreciate the skill and dedication of drummers that use triggers and play WAY faster than I can, I have little to no artistic interest in ever doing so myself. As for the bit about compression / limiting being similar to triggering--sure, it does remove some of the dynamic inconsistencies that drummers deal with. In theory, a sound guy could absolutely crush a kick sound, so that there is no dynamic variation whatsoever, but I tend to think that sounds like shit too. Compression can also be used to make drums "fat, punchy" or whatever you want to call it, without destroying all semblance of dynamics in the performance. I'll take well-engineered live drums with appropriate compression over triggered drums that sound like they're being played by a robot that is running out of batteries. All philosophical debate aside, I'd like to state for the record that my opposition to triggers isn't because its "cheating" or anything like that. It's because they sound fucking DUMB. If I want to listen to a drum machine, I'll listen to Agoraphobic Nosebleed. Otherwise, when I see a band, I want to hear a fucking band--not an electronic representation thereof. End rant.[/QUOTE]
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