Do you think Watain is over rated?[views:17834][posts:68][poll! to vote:click here] to view:click here] ____________________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 9:05pm - Cum in the Nun's Ass ""] Hailed as the best nowadays BM band. Over rated? |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 9:39pm - punk potenza ""] yuuuuup katharasis shits all over them |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 12:15am - arilliusbm ""] Good band, but yes. Overrated. They keep the spirit of BM alive more than most bands but musically they never struck me as amazing. Earlier stuff was better.. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 2:43am - Nostromo ""] Nifelheim already did everything they try to do, and they didn't have to pose on the cover of "terrorizer" magazine wearing Marylin Manson contact lenses. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 2:47am - Randy_Marsh ""] yes. but i certaintly enjoy them. only dissection was real but watain keeps the blood flowin' |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 2:51am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Only The Misanthropic Ceremonies split is real. Lawless Darkness was gayer than Jobraith tongue kissing John Waters while Elton John massaged his balls. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 2:53am - Nostromo ""] Lawless Darkness was supposed to be the glorious return of true black metal. Nahhhh |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 2:53am - Randy_Marsh ""] lawless darkness is a bit gay..i enjoy two tracks on it though. thought sworn to the dark and casus lucefieri were solid ball sacks. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 2:58am - Nostromo ""] RABBIT Death Curse. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 2:59am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Sworn to Will Clark |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 5:39am - deathzappa ""] As soon as a black metal band acheives some success they get all sorts of haters. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 8:33am - Nostromo ""] Nah, I still like Beherit and Nifelheim. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 8:39am - Boozegood ""] deathzappa said:As soon as a black metal band acheives some success they get all sorts of haters. Yea, fuck Venom, Mercyful Fate, Bathory, Celtic Frost, Hellhammer, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Burzum, etc. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 9:32am - dreadkill ""] arilliusbm said:Good band, but yes. Overrated. They keep the spirit of BM alive more than most bands but musically they never struck me as amazing. Earlier stuff was better.. this |
| __________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 12:27pm - barbelo ""] Watain overrated? Yes. Were they always? No. "Rabid Death's Curse" and esp. "Casus Luciferi" are total classics. The only thing on par with them in 2004-5 was Deathspell. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 5:04pm - deathzappa ""] Boozegood said: deathzappa said:As soon as a black metal band acheives some success they get all sorts of haters. Yea, fuck Venom, Mercyful Fate, Bathory, Celtic Frost, Hellhammer, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Burzum, etc. The 3 BM bands you listed (mayhem, darkthrone and burzum) all do have plenty of haters, thank you for providing evidence for my point |
| _____________________________ [Mar 7,2011 6:19pm - Lamp ""] I enjoy Watain, but I understand that they are a watered down and more marketable version of their own genre. I'm not much of a black metal fan, honestly. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 6:26pm - Randy_Marsh ""] whats kind of weird is that alot of people who generally don't like black metal that much like watain which is slightly boggling. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 6:32pm - deathtoallbuttmetal! ""] It disgusts me that bands like watain exist. Real black metal bands never have melodic parts, and they dont have so much variation in their riffs. A band changing their style slightly over time? always sell outs. hate forest is the only true black metal band left. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 6:35pm - Randy_Marsh ""] deathtoallbuttmetal! said:It disgusts me that bands like watain exist. Real black metal bands never have melodic parts, and they dont have so much variation in their riffs. A band changing their style slightly over time? always sell outs. hate forest is the only true black metal band left. whatever at least some of the older stuff is good. new stuff isn't horrible. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 7:05pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] barbelo said:and esp. "Casus Luciferi" are total classics. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 7,2011 7:17pm - arilliusbm ""] deathtoallbuttmetal! said:It disgusts me that bands like watain exist. Real black metal bands never have melodic parts ___________________________ hate forest is the only true black metal band left. and perhaps they got bored with hate forest so they created drudkh and astrofaes - bands full of melody?? give me a break d00d |
| _____________________________ [Mar 8,2011 7:35am - Yeti ""] deathtoallbuttmetal! said:It disgusts me that bands like watain exist. Real black metal bands never have melodic parts, and they dont have so much variation in their riffs. A band changing their style slightly over time? always sell outs. hate forest is the only true black metal band left. i know dub Scaphism "Butt Metal". |
| _______________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:31pm - tru? ""] They are good, they havent sold out yet in my opinion. Their new music is still black metal, it just incorperates more melody, but they dont overdo it and its dark melody anyway. They are overrated by some magazines that call them 'the best black metal band ever' and underrated in some magazines where they are critisized because their music evolved, and they got somewhat popular. They did get popular very quickly, and some non-black metal people like them, but those people dont actually change the quality of the music. The music is still good even if hipsters sometimes show up at their concerts. Hipsters are showing up at most non-nazi black metal shows nowadays. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:32pm - arilliusbm ""] tru? said: Hipsters are showing up at most metal shows nowadays. Fixed. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:33pm - Randy_Marsh ""] tru? said:They are good, they havent sold out yet in my opinion. Their new music is still black metal, it just incorperates more melody, but they dont overdo it and its dark melody anyway. They are overrated by some magazines that call them 'the best black metal band ever' and underrated in some magazines where they are critisized because their music evolved, and they got somewhat popular. They did get popular very quickly, and some non-black metal people like them, but those people dont actually change the quality of the music. The music is still good even if hipsters sometimes show up at their concerts. Hipsters are showing up at most non-nazi black metal shows nowadays. "best black metal band ever" i'm LMFAO...they are almost exclusively similar to their forefathers Dissection who are superior in everyway minus Reinkaos in which the live player for Watain Set Teitan played on Reinkaos. Why do these magazines make such bold statements even if they don't know anything about the genre or times that predate the current. retards. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:35pm - Spaldino ""] 1349 > Watain imo |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:35pm - arilliusbm ""] Randy_Marsh said: Why do these magazines make such bold statements even if they don't know anything about the genre or times that predate the current. retards. Are you mocking TERRORIZER and their soon-to-be NEBM write up? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:36pm - Spaldino ""] shit... i meant Eyes of Noctum > Watain |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:40pm - ark ""] Spaldino said:1349 > Watain imo 100% agree. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:41pm - Seanblitzkrieg ""] Myrkskog with Sammoth or GTFO |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:44pm - Randy_Marsh ""] arilliusbm said: Randy_Marsh said: Why do these magazines make such bold statements even if they don't know anything about the genre or times that predate the current. retards. Are you mocking TERRORIZER and their soon-to-be NEBM write up? ..i have no idea. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:47pm - tru? ""] well yeah (old) dissection is better than almost any bm band today |
| _______________________________ [Mar 11,2011 2:54pm - tru? ""] basically I think watain is "very good" black metal. My opinion on that has not changed for the worse because some sensationalist magazine hyped them up to be "the best" |
| _______________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:12pm - Mutis ""] Calling bands of genres you listen to "overrated" is a hipster activity. If it's good, it's good. If it's tainted by the Nuclear Blast production disease, I don't listen to it because it sounds like balls. If they dress like hipsters and go sans corpse paint but play good music, I'll still listen to it, but I won't watch it live. Melodic parts aren't in "true" black metal. That's called "melodic black metal. Duh. Also, magazines say stupid things like that because their readers are stupid. Just because a few bands have a small degree of fame doesn't make underground metal bands any less "underground". |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:24pm - Randy_Marsh ""] Mutis said:Calling bands of genres you listen to "overrated" is a hipster activity. If it's good, it's good. If it's tainted by the Nuclear Blast production disease, I don't listen to it because it sounds like balls. If they dress like hipsters and go sans corpse paint but play good music, I'll still listen to it, but I won't watch it live. Melodic parts aren't in "true" black metal. That's called "melodic black metal. Duh. you wont see it live because they don't wear corpse paint sounds like something a hipster would say, i know you aren't but that's sort of the same mentality. also I think true black metal can have "melodic" parts but they are regarded as epic parts. Immortal, Dissection, The Black to name a few. I would also consider older Watain "trve" i suppose but not still not really but due to their stage rituals i would say so. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:27pm - Yeti ""] this gay thread turned even gayer. hoorah. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:28pm - arktouros ""] Is this another thread where everyone has something to say about black metal? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:29pm - Randy_Marsh ""] don't really care that much. really bored at work.. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:30pm - arktouros ""] SO AM I |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:33pm - Randy_Marsh ""] lets kill ourselves. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:38pm - Randy_Marsh ""] your band is only true if you have dead members |
| _______________________________ [Mar 11,2011 3:47pm - Mutis ""] Let me put it this way: I don't watch bands that don't put on a show. If the band is a bunch of short haired dudes wearing polo shirts, standing motionless with their backs to the audience, fuck that. Doesn't matter if it's black metal or gypsy pop. That shit is boring to watch. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 4:04pm - Randy_Marsh ""] Mutis said:Let me put it this way: I don't watch bands that don't put on a show. If the band is a bunch of short haired dudes wearing polo shirts, standing motionless with their backs to the audience, fuck that. Doesn't matter if it's black metal or gypsy pop. That shit is boring to watch. yeah i suppose you're right. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 4:33pm - Spaldino ""] Start a cult... of personality about it, faggot [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 5:01pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] stage shows is raviolis. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 5:22pm - bobnomaamrooney ""] I'm not basing my criticism of Watain on the fact that they're now in magazines that aren't cut and paste zines made by some kid in Slovakia. I'm not basing my criticism of them on the fact that they're attracting a hipster crowd whatever the fuck that means. I'm criticizing Watain because their later work is derivative garbage. Around Sworn to the Dark they stopped sounding like what Nifelheim might have been if they hadn't gone stagnant. Instead Watain turned into a Dissection tribute band. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 7:32pm - Paul CNV ""] They are great band without a doubt ... The best around? Maybe one of them. I've seen them 3 times and their is definately a great dark energy there but Morbid Angel still mops the floor with them and their pig blood any day |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 8:23pm - thirdknuckle ""] Spaldino said:1349 > Watain imo 'Hellfire', maybe; but the 2 after that are ALL FILLER But then I'm a Marduk afishy o'nardo anyway |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 8:26pm - thirdknuckle ""] Randy_Marsh said:your band is only true if you have dead members Lynyrd Skynyrd = True |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 8:45pm - bobnomaamrooney ""] thirdknuckle said: Randy_Marsh said:your band is only true if you have dead members No Doubt = True |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 8:48pm - nekronaut ""] No Doubt = guilty pleasure |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 8:59pm - bobnomaamrooney ""] nekronaut said:No Doubt = guilty pleasure You really love them...underneath it all |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 9:05pm - nekronaut ""] A real love survives a rock steady vibe |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 9:06pm - thirdknuckle ""] bobnomaamrooney said: thirdknuckle said: Randy_Marsh said:your band is only true if you have dead members Badfinger = True Founding member Pete Ham committed suicide on April 24, 1975. Band member Tom Evans, who saw Pete Ham's body hanging, also died by suicide, on November 19, 1983. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 9:26pm - thirdknuckle ""] thirdknuckle said: bobnomaamrooney said: thirdknuckle said: Randy_Marsh said:your band is only true if you have dead members Badfinger = True Founding member Pete Ham committed suicide on April 24, 1975. Band member Tom Evans, who saw Pete Ham's body hanging, also died by suicide, on November 19, 1983. Truest |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 10:01pm - Spaldino ""] thirdknuckle said: Spaldino said:1349 > Watain imo 'Hellfire', maybe; but the 2 after that are ALL FILLER But then I'm a Marduk afishy o'nardo anyway no way... i have been listening to their latest release constantly since a little before it came out. its pretty dank, yo. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 10:30pm - thirdknuckle ""] 6 black metal songs and 7 ambient instrumentals is an EP padded with filler imho |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 10:43pm - Spaldino ""] and the 6 songs are like almost 40 minutes worth of material. thats still technically full length. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 10:43pm - Spaldino ""] p.s. Marduk rapes |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 10:49pm - thirdknuckle ""] Fair enough... |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 10:50pm - the_reverend ""] thirdknuckle said: Spaldino said:1349 > Watain imo 'Hellfire', maybe; but the 2 after that are ALL FILLERI agree with that. Especially live. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 11,2011 10:51pm - thirdknuckle ""] Ya, Marduk's last 3 are awesome. Love Panzer and World Funeral too. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 12,2011 12:43am - conservationist ""] Cum%20in%20the%20Nun‘s%20Ass said:Hailed as the best nowadays BM band. Over rated? BM since 1994: overrated. Watain since 2001: gayer than fucking AIDS. |
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| ___________________________________ [Mar 12,2011 8:52am - demondave ""] bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2011 9:39am - goatcatalyst ""] ITT: Buttdarts who have never savoured the nun's rotting asshole postulating. PS: only Necros Christos is real |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 12,2011 10:01pm - thirdknuckle ""] Spaldino said:and the 6 songs are like almost 40 minutes worth of material. thats still technically full length. ok but Revelations of the Black Flame is over 50% noise/ambient/bullshit i did the math! |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 13,2011 6:04am - Spaldino on Phone ""] That may be... but I was talking about Demonoir... which rapes |