Genitortures and David Vincent
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[May 14,2004 8:59pm - swamplorddvm ""]
So I went to see the Genitorturers on wednesday in some ghetto in NY. Got to chill with them cause msnastia is friends with them and shit. So that was cool. Gen is rather nice. Before the show started I met the bassist and minutes AFTER I find out that he is David Vincent. I was like holy shit!!! I had no idea. The show was rather bad ass. Gen (singer) pulled two lolly pops out some chicks twat and licked them then gave them to the audience. GOOD SHOW!
Anyways, yeah David (Evil D) looks quite different from his Morbid angel days. Some fans might be dissapionted. and I'm sure some here don't care for the Genitorturers. But it was a good time non the less.
That is all.:doublehorns:
[May 14,2004 10:49pm - RustedAngel ""]
um, gay...
david vincent sucked ass, even when he was in morbid angel... now he's just GAY.
[May 15,2004 12:26am - Kalopsia ""]
i wouldn't touch that nasty slut Gen with a 10 foot fuckin pole. she's probably covered in STD's
[May 15,2004 12:53am - swamplorddvm ""]
Nasty slut? She's quite different off stage.
[May 15,2004 1:45am - dyingmuse ""]
thats gay to shit on the old school david vincent. he WAS the man. and saying he was gay is saying YOU are gay. so sit down . yeah he's gay now but he was the motherfucker and thats that!
[May 15,2004 11:00am - DugOfXistance ""]
He's not gay, he'd just rather spend time with his wife and do something different than death metal.
Oh yeah, Morbid Angel with David Vincent is the only Morbid Angel that matters.
[May 15,2004 11:06am - RustedAngel ""]
WRONG....
david vincent is a whiney asshole literally. my boss was telling me all sorts of stories about having to deal with him when he was in MA.
look at him now. I rest my case:
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btw, vincents half assed vocals blew in morbid angel.. comparing him to tucker or even anderson for the time he filled in for bass and vox he doesn't stand a chance as a death metal vocalist.... tuckers lyrics own vincents also... no way in hell did vincents vocals have anything to do with getting morbid where they are today.
[May 15,2004 12:23pm - Dread_104 ""]
DugOfXistance said:He's not gay, he'd just rather spend time with his wife and do something different than death metal.
Oh yeah, Morbid Angel with David Vincent is the only Morbid Angel that matters.
Damn Straight!!!!:doublehorns:
[May 15,2004 1:05pm - DugOfXistance ""]
Comical to say the least. Yeah, Vincent had absolutely nothing to do with Morbid Angel being one of the most prolific, talented and inspiring bands in Death Metal ever. I bet Eric Rutan had everything to do with it. Maybe the only reason MA are were they are today is because of some well planned out tours with pantera and such that got them some mainstream exposure so all the Hot Topic gothic monkeys would think they were so underground. If you think that Heretic or FFttF are anywhere near as great and classic as Blessed and Covenant than some synapse in your brain isn't firing. FFttF and Heretic (gateways was tolerable) were by far the most yawn inducing albums I have heard in a while.
My boss has told me lots of things . . . should I consider them gospel? What if my boss told me that everyone on this thread was a whiney asshole? Should I just shut up, believe it and pass it around as truth. Nah, I like looking for this thing called proof, first hand information and maybe, hah, benefit of the doubt. Oh well, that's just me. Besides, I've met Vincent and he was nothing but cool to the fans after the show . . . shaking hands, signing things and taking pictures. Yeah, what an asshole. Sheesh . . .
[May 15,2004 1:35pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
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[May 15,2004 4:28pm - RustedAngel ""]
his vocals sucked, need I say anymore?
[May 15,2004 5:39pm - dunwich ""]
David Vincents vocals were amazing on Covenant and Domination...angry and distinct and a hell of a lot better than the majority of bands in the genre. I wouldn't say he made Morbid Angel or that he's a great guy but who cares?
[May 15,2004 7:11pm - Dread_104 ""]
i wonder if age or who was singing at the time you first got into morbid factors into this. i got blessed are the sick the week it came out. me and everyone that i know who liked MA back then prefer Vincent over Tucker. i'm not saying that i'm right, or that this makes old MA better, just an observation/question? anyone?
[May 15,2004 10:41pm - Aegathis ""]
I disagree with anyone that says David Vincent always sucked. Wasnt he one of the first vocalists of his kind? Even he did suck back then, lots of people learned from his mistakes
Hahaha but like I said I dont think he sucked.[May 16,2004 12:38am - dyingmuse ""]
RustedAngel said:WRONG....
david vincent is a whiney asshole literally. my boss was telling me all sorts of stories about having to deal with him when he was in MA.
look at him now. I rest my case:
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btw, vincents half assed vocals blew in morbid angel.. comparing him to tucker or even anderson for the time he filled in for bass and vox he doesn't stand a chance as a death metal vocalist.... tuckers lyrics own vincents also... no way in hell did vincents vocals have anything to do with getting morbid where they are today.
dude, you are out of your tits. and you are a fag for saying that!
[May 16,2004 1:23am - cdan ""]
hmm, let's see, when was the last time Morbid Angel wrote anything memorable? Oh yeah! DOMINATION, the last album with Vincent.
[May 16,2004 12:27pm - DEATH2ALL ""]
I second that
[May 16,2004 12:58pm - dyingmuse ""]
i third that
[May 16,2004 8:18pm - RustedAngel ""]
the music on the first 4 albums was sick.... but whoever doesn't like gateways are just plain stupid.
[May 16,2004 8:20pm - RustedAngel ""]
dyingmuse said:
dude, you are out of your tits. and you are a fag for saying that!
sorry i'm not cool enough to listen to my dying bride.
[May 16,2004 8:27pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
RustedAngel said:
sorry i'm not cool enough to listen to my dying bride.
damn right you aren't. Doom owns you for free.
[May 16,2004 9:03pm - Kalopsia ""]
RustedAngel said:the music on the first 4 albums was sick.... but whoever doesn't like gateways are just plain stupid.
i gotta agree with tom here. Gateways to Annihilation fucking rules
[May 16,2004 10:27pm - JellyFish ""]
I like Gateways but it is easily there worst. The vocals are AWESOME on Blessed and Altars and above average on covenant and Domiantion. Theres nothing special about Steves voice. There are 30 thousand bands that sound just like him. Its all about preference I guess, and I prefer songs like Fall From Grace and Chapel of Gouls to songs like I.
[May 16,2004 10:49pm - retzam ""]
Tom, fuck you, stop judging people by what they look like.
Dave Vincent's vox were great, and Altars and Blessed are the two best Morbid Angel albums. I'm not dealing with this fucking thread anymore so don't even bother responding to this.
[May 17,2004 12:17am - RustedAngel ""]
retzam, i'll judge people by what they look like if I want, eat a cack.
listen to vincents vox on 'entangled in chaos'; weak death metal vocals.
gateways is by far not their worst album, ageless, god of the forsaken, summoning, all fucking sick songs with rediculous solo's.
[May 17,2004 12:27am - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
David Vincent's vocals on Altars , Blessed, and Covenant all rule... Heretic was a huge dissapointment...
[May 17,2004 12:29am - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
oh yeah, can someone post some pics of this Gen chick?
[May 17,2004 12:48am - Kalopsia ""]
yea heretic is easily their worst album.
[May 17,2004 8:21am - succubus ""]
i'm with retzam about not udging people by the way they look..but ironic how the comments about the girl in the band have to do with what she looks like..although i'm seeing comments by people OTHER THAN tom...
who the fuck cares?
if you like it, good, if you don't...then don't, what the person looks like should make no difference..that is..unless yer a teenybopper
[May 17,2004 10:13am - RustedAngel ""]
vincent looks like he's a member of murderdolls, or even manson. I rest my case.
i'm a judge.
[May 17,2004 2:05pm - swamplorddvm ""]
coldnorthernvengeance said:oh yeah, can someone post some pics of this Gen chick?
If I knew how to post pics I would post a pic of Gen.:shocker::shocked:
[May 17,2004 2:24pm - succubus ""]
yawn
[May 17,2004 4:56pm - DugOfXistance ""]
RustedAngel said:vincent looks like he's a member of murderdolls, or even manson. I rest my case.
i'm a judge.
The fact that you used the brain power to both consider and compare Vincent to the murderdolls and manson completely nullifies any opinion you have had on this thread and completely proves that you are entirely too into yourself. I've also noticed you've devoted a lot of thought and typing on the way he looks now . . . makes me wonder. I think the City Halls are still open for a few more hours tonight; you can get there on your high horse.
[May 17,2004 5:02pm - RustedAngel ""]
wow, clever!
vincent is gay.
[May 17,2004 5:41pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
Ananlyze it all you want, I jus want to see hot chicks in bondage damnit!
[May 17,2004 6:41pm - dyingmuse ""]
TheGreatSpaldino said:RustedAngel said:
sorry i'm not cool enough to listen to my dying bride.
damn right you aren't. Doom owns you for free.
first you are not cool. you are pretentious and gay. so step down
(and weather or not you knew it, i have been listening to morbid angel before you where even old enough to suck your first dick).
2nd this scene is very small here. keep talking shit, sooner or later, i will run into you. and you can say it to my face
just because shroud of bereavement is my band and we dont sound like morbid angel doesnt mean that i dont like death metal. what are you fucking stupid?
that shit is my roots. listen to my first 3 bands, ask the rev, we were in school together, he saw us
3rd what the fuck does my dying bride have to do with this anyway?
are you saying because im in a doom band that im not as cool as you? what does that prove? that you can talk more shit than i? so keep talking
[May 17,2004 6:55pm - morkul ""]
RustedAngel said:retzam, i'll judge people by what they look like if I want, eat a cack.
listen to vincents vox on 'entangled in chaos'; weak death metal vocals.
gateways is by far not their worst album, ageless, god of the forsaken, summoning, all fucking sick songs with rediculous solo's.
Bro, you are an idiot, by far, and if you are a death metal musician, I pity the future of your seen cause you obviously don't know good music from Adam. Are you even old enough to remember the impact those albums had on the seen? Oh, and for the record, no-one sounded like Vincent back in the day. No-one!:middlefinger:
[May 17,2004 7:01pm - dyingmuse ""]
i second that man! \m/
[May 17,2004 7:06pm - morkul ""]
Thanks Bro.
[May 17,2004 7:11pm - RustedAngel ""]
dyingmuse said:
first you are not cool. you are pretentious and gay. so step down
(and weather or not you knew it, i have been listening to morbid angel before you where even old enough to suck your first dick).
ok, your old I don't care, I don't like vincent's vocals get over it.
2nd this scene is very small here. keep talking shit, sooner or later, i will run into you. and you can say it to my face
I'll say I don't like vincents vocals to your face, I don't care. It doesn't mean I want to fight you over it.
just because shroud of bereavement is my band and we dont sound like morbid angel doesnt mean that i dont like death metal. what are you fucking stupid?
that shit is my roots. listen to my first 3 bands, ask the rev, we were in school together, he saw us
i didn't say you don't like death metal... I just don't like my dying bridge either. yawnfest.
3rd what the fuck does my dying bride have to do with this anyway?
are you saying because im in a doom band that im not as cool as you? what does that prove? that you can talk more shit than i? so keep talking
dude, you called me a fag before I called you any anything. so shut your face.
[May 17,2004 7:22pm - RustedAngel ""]
morkul said:
Bro, you are an idiot, by far, and if you are a death metal musician, I pity the future of your seen cause you obviously don't know good music from Adam. Are you even old enough to remember the impact those albums had on the seen? Oh, and for the record, no-one sounded like Vincent back in the day. No-one!:middlefinger:
yup, i'm an idiot, okay.. I'm fully aware those albums had a huge impact on the 'seen' but vincent wasn't the heart of the band. I'd take those albums with no vocal tracks if I could. No one sounded like him because bands like suffocation, corpse and carcass were too busy having brutal death metal vocals.
[May 17,2004 7:23pm - dyingmuse ""]
said thats gay to shit on the old school david vincent. he WAS the man. and saying he was gay is saying YOU are gay. so sit down . yeah he's gay now but he was the motherfucker and thats that! why dont you try and shut my face. im not even mad about the mdb thing its that you think because i like mdb that you are just soo much better...i just had to put you in your place. i think i am with the majority here? vincent was with them when they released the best albums and for back then when i was there seeing what happened when those albums came out...i think i have the right to say that you fucking nob
[May 17,2004 7:33pm - RustedAngel ""]
just because your old doesn't make you better than me, and me not liking vincent doesn't make me better than you. assume that i think i'm better than you, i don't give a shit that's your problem.
STFU.
[May 17,2004 7:40pm - morkul ""]
On the contrary, Vincent was a significant part of the band. Most of the earlier songs were written by Trey and Orchestrated by Vincent. That is why when he left you can hear the difference in the song structures. They don't suck or anything it is just different and people from the old-school can tell. It lacks something but we can't seem to put our fingers on it.:satancross:
[May 17,2004 8:23pm - dyingmuse ""]
RustedAngel said:just because your old doesn't make you better than me, and me not liking vincent doesn't make me better than you. assume that i think i'm better than you, i don't give a shit that's your problem.
STFU.
you are too young to know what respect is i guess?
[May 17,2004 8:26pm - RustedAngel ""]
respect my folks, yes...dyingmuse, no.
[May 17,2004 8:45pm - dyingmuse ""]
than you get none from me either
[May 17,2004 8:49pm - succubus ""]
rusted angel stop calling dymingmuse old...he's aaron's age dammit!
lol
now hug and make up!
[May 17,2004 9:03pm - the_reverend ""]
Kalopsia said:yea heretic is easily their worst album.
I second that.
[May 17,2004 9:10pm - the_reverend ""]
two points...
1) when I was a kid the guy singing in the carnival park in the movie lost boys was so cool.
2) when I watched the movie last year, the guy singing in the carnival park in the movie lost boys was so gay
3) I find that movie awesome
4) kids find that movie gay
tom's much younger than us so... that's how I see it.
I also see that this thread is pointless.
[May 17,2004 9:16pm - BornSoVile ""]
my unholy list of favorites -
1. Covenant - flows like lava and kills anything in its path
2. Heritic - this album rips
3. Altars of Madness - a good headbang from start to finish
4. Formulas Fatal to the Flesh - "thinking outside the box" again
5. Blessed Are the Sick - shit guy these guys can be diverse as hell
6. Entangled in Chaos - this is number one when they come to Worcester
7. Domination - a few great songs, mostly hype
8. Gateways to Annihilation - awesome production but still wicked dry
you guys are forgotting that drama killed the scene!
[May 17,2004 9:23pm - RustedAngel ""]
1. Gateways - nothing beats rutan and trey battling out solo's.
2. Blessed Are The Sick
3. Domination
4. Altars of Madness
5. Heretic
6. Covenant
7. Formulas Fatal To the Flesh
8. Entangled In Chaos
[May 17,2004 9:28pm - the_reverend ""]
1. Covenant tie Altars of Madness
2. Formulas Fatal To the Flesh tie Gateways
3. Blessed Are The Sick
4. Domination
5. Heretic (all that drum-track crap pissed me off)
[May 17,2004 9:29pm - RustedAngel ""]
hahah 1 track.
[May 17,2004 9:42pm - the_reverend ""]
that and the promo copy being chopped up.
and the ambient track.
it all worked together to sour that record for me.
personally, I find A,B,C,D, and E Morbid Angel to be a completely different band from F,G, and H.
[May 17,2004 9:45pm - retzam ""]
RustedAngel said:No one sounded like him because bands like suffocation, corpse and carcass were too busy having brutal death metal vocals.
First of all, I hate myself for coming back to this thread after making a big deal out of not coming back.
Second of all, the vocals in Carcass were not brutal at all really.
Third of all, see First of all.
Fourth of all, Chris Barnes' vocals are lame and always have been. Maybe I would be able to tolerate them if there was some half-decent music behind them.
Fifth of all, the early days of MA were extremely influential for death metal, and Dave's voice has on many occasions been specifically cited by Mikael Åkerfeldt as his sole influence for his vocals, and I can only imagine that this was true for soo many others. The Scandinavian death metal boom began when Altars Of Madness began to grab all these people by the collar and slap them in the face.
Sixth of all, see Third of all
[May 17,2004 9:46pm - BornSoVile ""]
the_reverend said:personally, I find A,B,C,D, and E Morbid Angel to be a completely different band from F,G, and H.
my favorite dj is a carpenter cause he hits the nail on the head.
[May 17,2004 9:49pm - retzam ""]
Holy fucking shit, I just fucking noticed that their albums go ABCDEFGH.
I'm such an ass to have not noticed that before.
[May 17,2004 10:14pm - Kalopsia ""]
retzam said:Holy fucking shit, I just fucking noticed that their albums go ABCDEFGH.
I'm such an ass to have not noticed that before.
that's what they're known for. someone once asked them what are they gonna call their 27th album
[May 17,2004 10:28pm - JellyFish ""]
1. Blessed
2. Altars
3. Covenant
4. Domination
5. Formulas
6. Entangled
7. Heretic
8. Gateways
[May 17,2004 10:40pm - retzam ""]
Kalopsia said:retzam said:Holy fucking shit, I just fucking noticed that their albums go ABCDEFGH.
I'm such an ass to have not noticed that before.
that's what they're known for. someone once asked them what are they gonna call their 27th album
continue with the swedish alphabet (å,ä,ö)
[May 18,2004 7:01am - dyingmuse ""]
blessed
covenant
domination
altars
.
[May 18,2004 10:32am - morkul ""]
the_reverend said:1. Covenant tie Altars of Madness
2. Formulas Fatal To the Flesh tie Gateways
3. Blessed Are The Sick
4. Domination
5. Heretic (all that drum-track crap pissed me off)
Don't hate on the drummer just cause he smokes anyone you've ever seen. It's one track, and besides, he deserves alot more. The WHOLE seen has him to thank for alot of the drumming going on today. I said alot, not all.
[May 18,2004 10:35am - morkul ""]
the_reverend said:Kalopsia said:yea heretic is easily their worst album.
I second that.
Ok, so you don't like Heretic? I don't know how you cannot, it's called forward progression. Bands can't stick to the same thing every single album year after year. That would get so old. Come on man you got to like something about it.?
[May 18,2004 10:43am - RustedAngel ""]
the vocals on heretic are awesome!
[May 18,2004 3:37pm - JellyFish ""]
Pete Sandovan is amazing. Nuff said
[May 18,2004 7:10pm - retzam ""]
I thought it was Sandoval.
[May 18,2004 7:22pm - morkul ""]
Oh since we are on the topic of MA, did you know before the recording of Heretic, David was asked to come back. So they jammed for a month before he wanted to start slowing things down and changing this and that. So Pete and Trey said no that is alright. So they asked Steve back in. Then on some more thinking a week later David called them back and said I 'm in and won't change anything. By then though it was too late, they had already gotten Steve back. So I guess David is pissed right now at the whole band. Just read this. The article also read hinting that Steve might be around for the"I" MA cd. So you know who may be asked back....just a hint, don't know if it is true or not?:NEWHORNS:
[May 18,2004 7:31pm - BornSoVile ""]
where's the article?
[May 18,2004 7:35pm - morkul ""]
On MorbidAngelchat.com. Go into discussions and then it's under David V. to rejoin or something like that....check it out
[May 18,2004 9:26pm - MyDeadDoll ""]
i am the proud owner of a morbid angel thong. damn, i'm cool.
[Jun 12,2004 1:45am - anonymous ""]
David Vincent with Morbid Angel was great....but the guy is an asshole and so are you! He is a complete fag! Nice lipstick Dave!