Has black metal become "twee"?[views:2247][posts:20]________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 7:17am - Conservationist ""] In American English it often refers to a type of simple sweet pop music, but in British English it is used much more widely for things that are nauseatingly cute or precious. It comes from the way the word sweet sounds when said in baby talk. Someone who is adorably sweet almost too sweet, sometimes hippie like. It's also a spin-off from the indie style they like being unique but not "in your face unique." http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twee For all its bluster about being evil, black metal after the Norwegians is the exact opposite. The genre welcomes any newcomer, and will immediately immerse them in a world where everyone is unique if they use the right combination of trite blasphemous cliches. It's the only place where you can scream "I want to kill everyone and everything" and get a group hug. You can also take Garage Band, four chords and a fifteenth-rate imitation of the truth, pop out a demo, and quickly have people calling you a genius. Even with the imagery of violence and hatred, black metal is very sweet. The black metal Nazis don't mind if you're black, as long as you want to be a black metal Nazi. Black metallers don't even care if you want to listen to black metal, as long as you're cool with it, they're cool with you. It's like a big emo community, dedicated to making Satan cute and the apocalypse amusing. But no one has yet dared use the word "twee" in public to describe it. |
| _____________________________ [Nov 5,2009 7:21am - Yeti ""] yes. yes it has. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 7:24am - MikeOv ""] Black Metal is for faggots. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 7:36am - ThirdKnuckle ""] <<You can also take Garage Band, four chords and a fifteenth-rate imitation of the truth, pop out a demo, and quickly have people calling you a genius.>> same goes for DM, Hip Hop, Hardcore, you name it |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 8:10am - aril ""] ThirdKnuckle said:<<You can also take Garage Band, four chords and a fifteenth-rate imitation of the truth, pop out a demo, and quickly have people calling you a genius.>> hence why I prefer tracking programs from the 90s and despise all newer programs like garage band, fruity loops, reason etc. same goes for DM, Hip Hop, Hardcore, you name it |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 8:15am - aril ""] ^err my post is in there somewhere. most black metal is a joke now and has been for a long time. And the black metal crowd are generally idiotic toolbags that think they're oh-so-evil because their favorite band worships "Satan" - yea black metal is twee. Black metal ist twee, rather. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 9:49am - arktouros ""] Internet metal commentary hour! why do people insist on looking at music as something more than it is? every type of art has a scene and this forum shows that. metal is a joke but you all listen to it. there is no movement behind music genres anymore. whether or not someone has a trve appreciation of it doesn't matter to me. i'm not on some black metal crusade, what goes on in metal outside of my band room, as long as i can still go to shows and see good bands, what the fuck do i care? violence and hatred toward what? i worship absolutely nothing. not metal, not a scene, not satan, nothing. metal is an escape, it is art, nothing more. or we could attach rules to metal, that always works. that way we can define individuals by a scene they're attached to. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:03am - arktouros ""] conversely you can form a mental picture of one's personality by knowing what types of art they appreciate. but that is only your perception, and it doesn't reach very far. i can't wait to be twee and drink good beer and watch some good local black metal tonight. i'll be sure to give out dual handjobs under images of satan and the apocalypse. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:08am - aril ""] arktouros said:. there is no movement behind music genres anymore. true. and it's somewhat sad. Is music and art dead? |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:09am - FuckIsMySignature ""] arktouros said: metal is an escape, it is art, nothing more. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:13am - goatcatalyst ""] Go home, faggot |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:16am - Conservationist ""] arktouros said:what goes on in metal outside of my band room, as long as i can still go to shows and see good bands, what the fuck do i care? Didn't they used to call this attitude "bourgeois"? :0 |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:21am - arktouros ""] as much as we all want to go out and burn hipsters Connie, i just don't care that much. not important to me. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:23am - arktouros ""] and this is not revolutionary france dude. fuck off. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:29am - arktouros ""] aril said: arktouros said:. there is no movement behind music genres anymore. true. and it's somewhat sad. Is music and art dead? i dunno, is it dead jim? i still find things that speak to me. we're overloaded with everything around us being instantaneous. when art is gone, people will appreciate it then i guess. |
| ___________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:31am - FuckIsMySignature ""] its only that much more challenging to make music that transcends the current status quo of bullshit. i welcome this challenge. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:32am - Yeti ""] i just stick to everything made pre-9/11. there are a few good things scattered throughout the last decade, but i'll stick to my pre-9/11 world. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:33am - arktouros ""] ^you are a beautiful man tom. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 10:34am - arktouros ""] 9/11 didn't happen |
| _________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 11:18am - Martins ""] What the fuck is twee? |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 5,2009 1:17pm - Conservationist ""] Martins said:What the fuck is twee? Good question. Here's the best source I found: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twee tl;dr: cuteness, smug hip sweetness, ironic anime-style self-love. |