Recording Studio in Boston
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[Apr 4,2004 5:29pm - matth ""]
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[Apr 4,2004 8:22pm - Blackout ""]
Could you post a borderline rate quote so I can save myself the extra click to write out an email?
[Apr 4,2004 10:11pm - matth ""]
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[Apr 4,2004 11:09pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
hmm to record and mix a good cd thats over $$$1000. unless you cram mixing and recording in one day
rule 1. dont mix right after recording
ill record and mix everything for 50-100 bucks(flat rate unlimited hours). 24 tracks, great sound
[Apr 4,2004 11:37pm - matth ""]
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[Apr 5,2004 12:30am - Josh_hates_you ""]
interesting edit matth
[Apr 5,2004 11:15am - anonymous ""]
where did matth post about 35 - 60 and hour or 550 for a 10 hour block go
[Apr 5,2004 11:34am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Boston recording is too expensive because their rent is too high and they have to pass it off on the bands.
People should record with Tsunami sound in Maine.
[Apr 5,2004 11:41am - RustedAngel ""]
wow, recording studio in boston?
like there isn't already 5,000 recording studio's in boston.
[Apr 5,2004 12:03pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
Joe/NotCommon said:Boston recording is too expensive because their rent is too high and they have to pass it off on the bands.
People should record with Tsunami sound in Maine.
fuck that. they should go to me. 50 bucks for a whole album cant be beat. record in a day or two and ill mix in my free time over the next week or two as opposed to rushing and recording and mixing in one day without giving your ears a rest. why pay for mixing?
[Apr 5,2004 12:07pm - anonymous ""]
what are you using for a studio?
[Apr 5,2004 12:08pm - Cryptic Anthony ""]
Josh, what kind of recording gear do you have? Where are you located?
[Apr 5,2004 12:41pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
for now im located in moms house which sucks but i gotta start somewhere right. 20 minute south of worcester. im looking into building a place with a friend on his property in uxbridge but that is far off.
i am willing to travel since your practice space is probably larger than the room i record/practice in.
the gear is no joke its comparable to most good home studios.
recording- alesis hd24, digtal 24 track
mackie 1604 mixing console
presonus acp88 compressor
alesis 3630 compressor
digitech effects (looking at a nice tc electronics for an upgrade)
akg head phones and event tr6 monitors
pc based mixing, editing, and effects: sonar,acid pro 4.0, tons of plugins the pro versions not the ghetto Best Buy versions
mics: akg d112, shure sm57, (2)oktava mc012, oktava mkl 2500 tube condenser, nady drum mics(only used on toms looking to upgrade)
my best friend has a studio too so i have access to more mics and equipment i am always looking for new gear and a permanant place but it will not be a commercial establishment to keep price down but offer better sound for the money not a better(higher rent) building so my friend and i are looking into putting up one of those prefabricated buildings in his backyard to serve as a studio.
[Apr 5,2004 12:56pm - Cryptic Anthony ""]
We practice in Boston in our drummer's basement. Our practice space isn't bad for recording. Ravage, who share our drummer with us, just recorded the drum tracks for their new album there. We are looking to record a full-length on a shoe-string and are interested.
[Apr 5,2004 1:14pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
cool i hate driving in boston(i like taking the train in) but i am sure we can work something out it you are interested. i play drums so there is a drumset here there is also a peavey xxl head and 4x12. no bass cab. this room is about 15' by 10' i have had 4 people playing at once but it is very tight,perfect to record everything seperate though, which is ideal anyway.
[Apr 5,2004 3:19pm - Cryptic Anthony ""]
Give a listen to "Internally Reviled" on the Music page of http://ww.crypticwarning.com
Do you think you can make that song sound better than that? Much better?
I'd wanna use my svt3 pro as a direct box, so no bass cab would be needed. My guitarist has a Marshall jcm800 100 watt head and 1960 4x12 cab so we'd probably want to use those. What's your kit like?
[Apr 5,2004 5:52pm - attendmyrequiem ""]
did you just buy the cheapest shittiest sounding stuff you could?
*gag* alesis?
and most mackie gear
plus drum sounds in a small room suck.
[Apr 5,2004 6:02pm - morkul ""]
attendmyrequiem said:did you just buy the cheapest shittiest sounding stuff you could?
*gag* alesis?
and most mackie gear
plus drum sounds in a small room suck. Unleess you trigger your drums, then you don't have to worry about that kind of shit. All you do is throw them a line- in and tell them don't fuck with anything but the volume. There you have it,death metal drumming/recording 101..:doublehorns:
[Apr 5,2004 6:55pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
attendmyrequiem said:did you just buy the cheapest shittiest sounding stuff you could?
*gag* alesis?
and most mackie gear
plus drum sounds in a small room suck.
1. alesis hd 24 http://www.zzounds.com/item--ALEADATHD24 does not suck. it is way better than the mackie or tascam of comparable price. to get a better multi track you need to invest $4500(minimum) in an Otari
2. mackie again is top of the line without breaking bank for a soundcraft or neve again way over $5000. oops soundcraft has a new entry model that starts at $2000
3. drums sound just fine in any sized room. it is a matter of taste,style of music,room acoustics, reverb. mic placement etc. (how the drums actually sound is the most important thing though.)
4. does attendmyrequiem even record?? and if so with what gear and for what price?
[Apr 5,2004 6:56pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
morkul im glad you like sounding like techno
[Apr 5,2004 7:02pm - morkul ""]
Josh_hates_you said:morkul im glad you like sounding like techno
Nobody said anything about techno. I know how to tune my drums just fine. I choose to use triggers on the bass drum's because of the wide range of sounds I can get out of the bass drum's without sacrificing the feeling. Trust me it doesn't sound like techno,however it will sound like a blur to you because of my speed....ooooohhhhhhhh....
[Apr 5,2004 7:23pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
morkul said: All you do is throw them a line- in and tell them don't fuck with anything but the volume. There you have it,death metal drumming/recording 101..:doublehorns:
at that rate at you have is a kick drum. you are still micing the rest of the set----techno is just a joke to make fun of triggers
triggering just the kick is weak too beacause then it sounds out of place and fake
[Apr 5,2004 7:27pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
oh and cryptic anthony...i checked out your mp3. it is not terrible, its actually better than alot from the bands on this site(vox up too high guitars have no life to them was there a bass on that recording?? ill have to listen again bass drum was weak).
i can do much better
[Apr 5,2004 7:38pm - Cryptic Anthony ""]
Alright then. The price is right.
Send me an email so we can talk about this more.
anthony_buda@yahoo.com
[Apr 5,2004 7:47pm - morkul ""]
Josh_hates_you said:morkul said: All you do is throw them a line- in and tell them don't fuck with anything but the volume. There you have it,death metal drumming/recording 101..:doublehorns:
at that rate at you have is a kick drum. you are still micing the rest of the set----techno is just a joke to make fun of triggers
triggering just the kick is weak too beacause then it sounds out of place and fake
Ok, well go tell people like Mike from Deeds, and Tony from Nile,Reno from Panzerchrist. I think it only sounds weak to you, and if your going to record people and have them pay you money to do it and they have those same set-ups are you going to tell them,"Hey that's weak, do it my way". What do you think their going to tell you?They're going to say that's how I like my drum sound. It's easy to make them match in sound, you just need to know how to tune, and how to play.
[Apr 5,2004 10:50pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
i know triggers have their advantages.
so many metal cds have great sounding drums but such an artificial "click" to the bass drum
it sounds cool on some cds. dimmu borgir for example it sounds ok on but that is real bass drum driven.
local bands NEVER sound like that when you see tham live, very few if any do so why would i want to make a record sound so good that the band is a dissappointment live?? but if a drummer wants that fake click sound where the ballsy dbl bass should go , i'll do my best to accomodate.
as you said its their $$ i just think one thing triggered sounds out of place. if anything trigger all the drums and use a pair of room mics blend the triggered sound for clarity and punch to the room mic for the natural tone and room echo/reverb. capture the cymbals live but overdub them later.....sounds more natural that way (who ever said i like the drum sounds from nile or flesh of deeds?cause i dont. i noticed skinless has a great drum sound on the new cd, no triggers )
[Apr 6,2004 3:25am - attendmyrequiem ""]
yes i record. i've recorded most of my silly projects ona soundcraft cd2020.
it actually sounds good.
i don't care if the price of the boards are cheap and can handel as much shit as a better more expensive baord. expensive consoles have better everything. compare how the mic pre sounds. compare how hot the signals are. Need i go on?
Small rooms suck for drums because you get a dead sound. and smaller rooms create a ton of bleed through, which sucks because it'sa bitch to gate out depending on how small the room is.
need i go on. secondly triggers can be fixed. use a V drum and program the hits straight into midi don't be a moron and track what's coming out of the cheap module that comes with sets.
[Apr 6,2004 10:36am - Josh_hates_you ""]
i just looked up your sounccraft
so you are comparing a $5000 or more mixer to my $1000 mixer and all you got was a few digital outputs some and more routing capability
so what would you charge using that?? i know i will definatly provide the best sound anywhere for the price.
FYI according to the spec sheets my mackie has less total harmonic distortion than your soundcraft also has less crosstalk
drums bleed in any sized room i record with no gating i run the signal through a presonus acp 88 during mixdown claens everything up nice
[Apr 7,2004 6:36am - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
i know of a really great studio that is very inexpensive but sounds like one of those 50+ dollar an hour studios. if anyone is interested in recording at a 50 dollar an hour quality studio for a 15 dollar an hour price... let me know and ill hook you up.
[Apr 7,2004 7:22am - handinjury ""]
small rooms suck, why:
the smaller the room, the more build up of lower bass feq's.
Making the overall drum sound(your ficking overheads) sound boxy and bassy. So even if you use triggers on kicks and snare, you still have 2 mics in stereo (for cymbols) that will pick up the hole drum sound, the whole small bassy ROOM sound. I know this cause my drum set takes up a whole small room, and its a small room.
who ever said that josh's hd adat thingy is garbage...is stupid. Now, the 3630, thats a piece of shit. I know, cause i had one!
triggers: just about EVERY band use's them pre/post recording. Or they will replace the kick hits with samples of KICKS.
Li-v-ing in a dig-i-tal world. (sing it like the madonna tune)
[Apr 7,2004 10:05am - Josh_hates_you ""]
did anyone listen to the new skinless cd?? it not the best metal cd but the drums sound killer and there is not a trigger on them. i am anti trigger-- led zeplin had some of the best drum sounds ever and there where no triggers hell they only used 3 mics on drums
room size again is a matter of taste hell if i wanted too i could deaden all the heads and get a super tight sound and add as much reverb as i like giving it that big room feel. there are pro studios that have little tiny dead rooms for drums as well as huge cathedral rooms its all a matter of engineering, taste and style you are going for.
i hardly use the 3630 now that i have a presonus acp 88 and im getting a fmr audio RNC soon
hey spaldino thanks for the support
and for the record i will be doing a full legth for murder in the first sometime this month which i will post to this site to shut all assholes up about room sizes and equipment. bottom line is i have heard a total of 1 mp3 from this site that sounds real good that includes your mediocre recording
[Apr 7,2004 10:22am - davyp ""]
Josh when did you talk to Murder in the First.......
[Apr 7,2004 11:02am - Josh_hates_you ""]
i went to their practice yesterday but tom was not there because he was at the bleeding through show. i will be seeing them or just my cousin at least this weekend for some easter family shit or whatever
[Apr 7,2004 11:12am - davyp ""]
thats cool......
[Apr 7,2004 12:26pm - handinjury ""]
Hey josh;
Are you sure they didnt use triggers onthe skinless album? Cause im pretty sure he did, but neil kernon produced that one, so maybe not.
RNC;
Dude get one, i got one, its a really nice piece to have, you wont be disapointed(accept for the fact that the in/out is un-balanced.)
[Apr 7,2004 1:12pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
Josh_hates_you said:fmr audio RNC soon
hey spaldino thanks for the support
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[Apr 7,2004 1:45pm - morkul ""]
Josh_hates_you said:did anyone listen to the new skinless cd?? it not the best metal cd but the drums sound killer and there is not a trigger on them. i am anti trigger-- led zeplin had some of the best drum sounds ever and there where no triggers hell they only used 3 mics on drums :
room size again is a matter of taste hell if i wanted too i could deaden all the heads and get a super tight sound and add as much reverb as i like giving it that big room feel. there are pro studios that have little tiny dead rooms for drums as well as huge cathedral rooms its all a matter of engineering, taste and style you are going for.
i hardly use the 3630 now that i have a presonus acp 88 and im getting a fmr audio RNC soon
hey spaldino thanks for the support
and for the record i will be doing a full legth for murder in the first sometime this month which i will post to this site to shut all assholes up about room sizes and equipment. bottom line is i have heard a total of 1 mp3 from this site that sounds real good that includes your mediocre recording
I hate to tell you wrong but John does use triggers on the Bass Drums and the cd came out sounding killer. If you don't like triggers that's cool, but you shouldn't knock them when alot,I mean alot of people sware by them. Plus they help to clean up your style tremendously,making the person a better,tighter player.