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Doomcore...Yes, i said doomcore

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[Sep 23,2009 3:21pm - DoyleWorldOrder  ""]
Anyone interest in starting a "doomcore" project? My influences include: Evoken, Bury your Dead, My Dying bride, Despised Icon, As I Lay Dying, The Devil Wears Prada, Shroud of Bereavement, and even stuff like Sunn o))).
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[Sep 23,2009 3:23pm - sever ""]
lol.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:24pm - arktouros ""]
go full doom! you can still have breakdowns, i promise
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[Sep 23,2009 3:24pm - aril  ""]
Absolute fail.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:24pm - MikeOv  ""]
Wasn't Crowbar once labeled "doomcore"?
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[Sep 23,2009 3:25pm - xmikex ""]
doomed core band is doomed.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:25pm - MikeOv  ""]
two step parts and suicidal dirges
get into it
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[Sep 23,2009 3:34pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
retarded. any band with a "core" suffix should be flogged
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[Sep 23,2009 3:35pm - Martins ""]
I'm starting an Applecore band. Fruity breakdowns.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:35pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
with worms
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[Sep 23,2009 3:36pm - reimroc ""]
this actually sounds like an interesting style of music but those influences are beyond lulzy.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:37pm - aril  ""]
Dronecore sounds awesome.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:37pm - reimroc ""]

MikeOv said:Wasn't Crowbar once labeled "doomcore"?


early sludge acts like crowbar mixed elements of doom and hardcore punk.

it then progressed to me more of a metal/rock style instead of lying on the backbone of hardcore punk.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:41pm - MikeOv  ""]

reimroc said:this actually sounds like an interesting style of music but those influences are beyond lulzy.


In a way it's already been done. Take for example All Out War's Truth in the Age of Lies. It definitely contains some aspects of doom. Not that I think they were going for that approach, but the music gets slow and creates a sense of dread (while still making you want want to beat the shit out of people). Cross of Disbelief FTW.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:49pm - DoyleWorldOrder  ""]
i dont think it could fail, its easily a genre that could go mainstream
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[Sep 23,2009 3:52pm - reimroc ""]

MikeOv said:
reimroc said:this actually sounds like an interesting style of music but those influences are beyond lulzy.


In a way it's already been done. Take for example All Out War's Truth in the Age of Lies. It definitely contains some aspects of doom. Not that I think they were going for that approach, but the music gets slow and creates a sense of dread (while still making you want want to beat the shit out of people). Cross of Disbelief FTW.



touche.
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[Sep 23,2009 3:54pm - Martins ""]
Djent djent djent
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[Sep 23,2009 3:57pm - MikeOv  ""]
I'm even willing to take it a step further and say that All Out War are far more apocalyptic than a lot of supposed doom bands. I've always detested whiny, sappy, MDB clones and the like. All Out War may be hardcore but they're crushing and torturous, which is far more in alignment with what I personally consider doom.
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[Sep 23,2009 4:07pm - xmikex ""]
The doomy stuff that early All Out War did was straight out of Celtic Frost, early Obituary which wasn't really doom so much as a fascination with slow simple heavy riffs. IMO, that's what later All Out War was missing.
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[Sep 23,2009 4:12pm - quintessence ""]

DoyleWorldOrder said:i dont think it could fail, its easily a genre that could go mainstream


shut the fuck up and go kill yourself.
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[Sep 23,2009 4:21pm - timma ""]
Yep, this is probably the worst idea ever.

You are the weakest link.
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[Sep 23,2009 5:06pm - DoyleWorldOrder  ""]
oh i'm sorry, maybe the bands i listed were too talented for u guys? whatever...
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[Sep 23,2009 5:07pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
ya i wish i had mad skillz like Devil Wears Prada.


Bereavement is good though.
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[Sep 23,2009 5:20pm - aril  ""]
this troll is not me, before someone starts accusing me of this. it is strange however that my last name is in that.

NAME YOURSELF
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[Sep 23,2009 5:56pm - largefreakatzero ""]
Fake thread is fake. Nobody could actually like Devil Wears Prada.
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[Sep 23,2009 6:00pm - Snowden ""]

MikeOv said:I'm even willing to take it a step further and say that All Out War are far more apocalyptic than a lot of supposed doom bands. I've always detested whiny, sappy, MDB clones and the like. All Out War may be hardcore but they're crushing and torturous, which is far more in alignment with what I personally consider doom.


Sounds like the problem is that you're listening to UK-style doom/goth bands. I really wouldn't say All Out War were heavier or more apocalyptic than Skepticism, Wormphlegm, Stabat Mater, etc. etc. etc.
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[Sep 23,2009 7:05pm - MikeOfDecrepitude ""]
Uh? It's erroneous to say I'm listening to those bands, after stating my disdain for that style. If I'm going to listen to UK doom, it's going to be Esoteric, Electric Wizard, early Cathedral, etc. All Out War is completely different from the bands you've mentioned. Skepticism is more atmospheric and pondering; they've never tried to sound brutal or filthy. The guitar tones are also quite different, and if I had to pick who has the more... abrasive tone, it's obviously All Out War. Wormphlegm is certainly heavy, but understand that doom doesn't give me that rush of violence, like AoW would. Doom doesn't really make you want to move, as much as it gets under your skin, and initiates contemplation and introspection.

All Out War is akin to getting trampled in a stampede or soccer riot.
Doom, as played by Evoken, is more like watching a gigantic monolith slowly toppling over until it finally crashes down, crushing you beneath it.
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[Sep 23,2009 8:01pm - cav nli  ""]
just the thought 'doomcore' puts me to sleep
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[Sep 23,2009 8:50pm - Snowden ""]

MikeOfDecrepitude said:Uh? It's erroneous to say I'm listening to those bands, after stating my disdain for that style.


Ah, I got the impression you were comparing All Out War to doom bands in general based on your disdain for a particular type of early UK gothy stuff. I actually like My Dying Bride and the like, but I agree they aren't terribly heavy or foreboding a lot of the time.

Nevermind, anyhow.
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[Sep 23,2009 8:54pm - aril  ""]
You don't happen to play bass, do you?
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[Sep 23,2009 8:56pm - MikeOfDecrepitude ""]
Yeah, just the queer MDB clones, bands of that ilk. Doom shouldn't be sappy or weak, or else it fails to be doom, by my defintion. I definitely dig certain MDB albums, early Anathema, and what have you.
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[Sep 23,2009 9:04pm - quintessence ""]
just listen to Winter
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[Sep 23,2009 9:05pm - MikeOfDecrepitude ""]
I also shouldn't say there isn't some doom that could make me go on a killing spree. Yob, Aldebaran, select tracks from the last Evoken album, certain Corrupted songs. They stand out as being more aggressive examples of the genre.
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[Sep 23,2009 9:06pm - MikeOfDecrepitude ""]

quintessence said:just listen to Winter


Obviously. They're fundamental.
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[Sep 23,2009 9:11pm - quintessence ""]
I always thought they combined doom with a extremely basic deathmetal sound that is kind of "doomcore" I guess. The word "doomcore" makes me want to vomit so whatever. Fun troll thread!
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[Sep 23,2009 10:46pm - Snowden ""]
If I thought this was going to end up sounding like Incantation or Asphyx, I'd say it was a great idea.
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[Sep 23,2009 11:08pm - quintessence ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Sep 23,2009 11:20pm - xgodzillax ""]

MikeOfDecrepitude said:I also shouldn't say there isn't some doom that could make me go on a killing spree. Yob, Aldebaran, select tracks from the last Evoken album, certain Corrupted songs. They stand out as being more aggressive examples of the genre.



corrupted is so good! although, i have to say i enjoy noothgrush alot more than corrupted.


syphs narrow way, FTW
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[Sep 24,2009 4:12am - PatMeebles ""]
if it takes you 5 minutes just to say "my friends" then you can call yourself a doomcore band
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[Sep 24,2009 7:20am - Yeti ""]
if this was to actually happen i'd throw out all of my cds and turn to country.
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[Sep 24,2009 11:43am - FuckIsMySignature ""]

Yeti said:if this was to actually happen i'd throw out all of my cds and turn to country.


i suggest starting with Hank Williams Jr and then moving on to David Allen Coe.
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[Sep 24,2009 11:48am - mIkeofdeCrePitude ""]

xgodzillax said:
corrupted is so good! although, i have to say i enjoy noothgrush alot more than corrupted.


syphs narrow way, FTW



Understandable, for Noothgrush are kings.
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[Sep 24,2009 11:49am - mIkeofdeCrePitude ""]
And let us not forget our hometown hero's GRIEF.
R.I.P. (but for how long??)
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[Sep 24,2009 11:52am - eyehatehippies ""]
I'm starting a Zydecore band.

Electric washboard breakdowns = br00tal
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[Sep 24,2009 11:55am - mIkeofdeCrePitude ""]
Make sure you cover Toadliquor.
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[Sep 24,2009 2:57pm - xgodzillax ""]
one day a few weeks back, smc and i were in our studio and started talking about corrupted. he'd play a chord and hold it out. while doing so he would drink a beer, stretch, do some jumping jacks, drink some more, spin around, and then play another chord. this went on for about 20 minutes. i hit my drums maybe 5 times at the most in those 20 minutes. shit was EPIC. lol
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[Sep 24,2009 3:14pm - mIkeofdeCrePitude ""]
Record it next time!
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[Sep 24,2009 3:18pm - josh_hates_you ""]
change your influences to eyehategod, obituary and soilent green.


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