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[QUOTE="Troll:713882"]Martin said:[QUOTE]Troll said:[QUOTE]Like I've stated before, I think some of Shammaataes ideas and that of MLO are all too vague. I just enjoy his aural landscapes. Seems like Shamaatae may be a bit spiritually immature. I'm sure he'd argue that statement but, I just think these alternative dark philosophies that seem so popular today are lot of wasted time and energy (and I'm sure you would argue that statement also Paul). I've also noticed Shaamatae seems to talk highly of his family in a few interviews (whom have also participated in his recordings)....Do you suppose they pat him on the back and kiss him on the cheek for wishing an end to their world? It just doesn't seem to real to me. Just an esoteric facade. Its the classic reason why people take up religion. Its a vehicle to empower those who otherwise feel inadequate and powerless (but I guess not always, cause some people just actually enjoy getting on there knees to revere their god/gods/master/whatev like some crazy masochist) I say whats so wrong with being powerless. How can you feel nothing but powerless at the tearing hands of nature and the curse of the human condition. Anyways, I'm just ranting like a derelict bum at this point so, I'm gonna go refresh my coffee and take a whiz. Did I mention I really like the music? I'm listening to Kostogher as I write this. Stay real niggaz! [/QUOTE] All concepts related to occultism, religion, spiritual matters are, in the Western civilization, inherently 'vague' because they are not directly perceptible. Shammaatea does not write entire paragraphs in his interviews to describe his philosophies, but anti-cosmic gnosticism isn't that 'simple'. Check this site out for more information (but not complete) : http://www.templeoftheblacklight.net/main.html . If you're interested in Gnosticism, I can also recommend a few good books on the topic. By the way, I'm not saying I'm a firm believer in the TOTBL, however I do find their approach quite interesting; I'm just trying to shed some light on some questions/issues brought up here. [/QUOTE] I can clearly see where your sentiments lay so I'm not sure if you'll care to hear this but like I said, "it's just an esoteric facade". Its that old elitist "only the few can understand/ those with the eyes worthy to see" bullshit and I don't buy it. I see nothing but the gray between the black and white in this world, It makes up so much of who I am.....And yet still, I'm not trying to sell no fuckin' books or ideas on my perspective and philosophy (not even in my music).....Quite simply, cause I am truly a cynical one man misanthropic motherfuckin' hate brigade. Maybe I should be more vocal with my ideas and knock down some spiritually starving pawns on my quest to fuckin' nowheresville just like MLO or any other alternative pop cult out there. You may not be a firm believer Martin and for what its worth I commend you, but no amount of reading on theis is gonna convince me this shit makes any sense or benefits any individual....And isn't that the point of spiritual belief and religion? Anyways, I'm thoroughly intoxicated and this took me forever to type. I can't wait to see your "witty and informative" reply through my fuckin glossy hungover eyes first thing in the morning... ....If I wake up. :) Skål! För magikern inom! :duffbeer: [/QUOTE]
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