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[QUOTE="MarkFuckingRichards:639140"]Lamp said:<<MarkFuckingRichards said:<<I feel uneasy using the word "thrashcore" since there is an electronic music genre known as "thrashcore.">> Yeah, so? There's electronic music called hardcore and speedcore too, that's not going to stop me from using the term hardcore to describe good old punk rock. <<Now, I have seen grindcore "purists," I guess you could say, swear up and down that grind is a sub-genre of punk and hardcore. But, if one of the first bands in grindcore took influence and elements from metal, is it really justifiable to say that grind is a sub-genre ONLY of punk and hardcore? Or are there too few grind bands on the metal side of things to accurately state that grind does in fact have metal elements?>> Well, if anything that's probably just an extreme retaliation since a lot of what people call "grindcore" these days has no punk/hardcore influence. I honestly think it draws more from punk/hardcore myself, but to say it has no metal influence at all is absurd. Stuff like that with no metal influence is what I see as powerviolence(which happens to be my forte).>> Just making sure we're on somewhat of the same page with the grind debate. I've tried talking to people on this subject several times and almost no one ever recognizes the roots. Even if things change over time, there always has to be some set of initial guidelines (i.e. punk/hardcore elements). And I hear what you're saying on the thrashcore thing; having gone to Mass. Art for the first 2 years of college, I tried to avoid any discussions with the suffix "-core" since half the people there were all about noise (not noisecore, just fucking NOISE), and the other half were all about electronic music. Next topic on Crossfire: R & B! Rhythm and blues, or R & B as it is popularly known, originated with artists such as Chuck Berry. How the fuck are 112, R. Kelly, Blackstreet, and other contemporary "R & B" artists called "R & B" if they have no relation to what rhythm and blues really is??? Fuck music, I'm going to rip my ear drums out and fill the canals with concrete.[/QUOTE]
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