How do we make Boston metal again?[views:38749][posts:142]_______________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:36pm - EriktheViking ""] This shouldn't be rocket science. Boston mentality is a Metal mentality. But not enough Metal music to go around. What gives? Besides the obvious solutions (like rounding up the Emo kids and executing them) what do you think can be done about getting more bands into more venues? There are enough places to play, especially in what used to be a Metal hotbed (so I'm told), Allston. What's the problem? Not enough believers? Suspicious venue owners? |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:38pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] move Boston to Worcester. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:40pm - atreu77 ""] I think the issue is a decent venue. There are some good places to play in Boston, but nothing large enough to hold a "fest", or one willing to take the chance on holding one. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:41pm - deadlikedave ""] i think there are more than enough good metal bands in boston right now...the only thing i dont like is not enough all ages/18+ venues around. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:42pm - Archaeon ""] 21+ shows, poor promotion, and current shitty youth music movements |
| _________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:43pm - atreu77 ""] all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:45pm - dreadkill ""] there are all kinds of good metal bands around here. i think we have a better "scene" in MA than in most parts of the world. i can usually find 1 or 2 good local shows to go to every week. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:46pm - EriktheViking ""] Your ideas are interesting to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, Atreu77. Well, I thought the scene was decent too, until O'Briens decided to close for a while and that ripped a huge chunk out of it. I know it's coming back, but I wish I didn't have to rely on it and maybe 1 or 2 places in Quincy (which is hard to get to for me). |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:47pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] people are stupid |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:47pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] metal is stupid |
| _________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:47pm - atreu77 ""] thank you, i think? |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:49pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] It's hard to make Boston metal when Godsmack and Diecast are big Boston bands. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 4:53pm - Kevord ""] There is a bunch of shows at the skybar and Deedee's coming up. There is plenty of local metal in the Boston area. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:12pm - brad nli ""] fuck metal |
| _______________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:28pm - aeser ""] am i the only one that notices plenty of fucking metal bands and metal shows going on in boston? you ever clicked on the events page on this very site? |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:33pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Boston is a very metal city indeed. It just seems the bands that make it big out of Boston make it look bad. Diecast? Godsmack? Bury Your Dead? Killswitch Engage? Case closed. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:34pm - dreadkill ""] who gives a shit? just go to metal shows. there are enough in the area. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:35pm - Kevord ""] dreadkill said:who gives a shit? just go to metal shows. there are enough in the area. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:39pm - Niccolai ""] Not enough music isn't Boston's problem. If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands. I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night? If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success. Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them). Just a theory. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:40pm - dreadkill ""] Niccolai said:Not enough music isn't Boston's problem. If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands. I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night? If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success. Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them). Just a theory. i agree with you |
| ________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:42pm - Kevord ""] That's why I'm not in a band and you thought it was just my shitty lack of talent. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:48pm - anonymous ""] dreadkill said:Niccolai said:Not enough music isn't Boston's problem. If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands. I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night? If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success. Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them). Just a theory. i agree with you ya i do agree on that. 1 not enough quality fanzines or website or stuff like that. this is the only metal web site i really go to on the regular. 2 it sucks having to hear like 5 shitty bands to listen to one good band.3 i dont think any of this is ever gonna change |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:48pm - babyshaker nli ""] ^^ me |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:50pm - BornSoVile ""] Once O'Briens opens up again everything will be cool. I don't understand why more than half the people in this thread bitch about the metal scene when they've done nothing to be apart of it and fail to support it on a regular basis. Go to shows, buy merch, and get to know your fellow headbangers, it's as simple as that. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SCENE THEN LEAVE. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:51pm - Niccolai ""] Also, I think the LAST thing the boston metal scene needs is a good venue in the 'shows all the time' sense. You might think that, but that's what hardcore though before Romans. Romans is a cool venue with shows every friday, but the thing is, since there are shows in brockton EVERY friday, whenever local bands play there it's hard to turnout more than 70 people. The reason is because everyone in that scene has been to brockton so many times and seen the bands that play there so many times that it slowly looses it's appeal. Boston needs a venue that has a show about twice a month, and books a good out of state headliner. The venue would need to be very consistant with schedualing, all ages, and would need good promotion. Venues leave promotion up to the bands to much. That would mean people wouldn't lose interested in going to the venue like if it had shows multiple times a week, there would be better turnouts, the bands would get paid well, and it would be over all more unifying. Bands also need to play fewer shows. Alot of bands are like "we want to play every weakend, as many shows as possible, ect". It's very important for bands to schedual their shows in balance. If you play 7 nights a week every week, who the hell is going to come out and see if you if they already have 90000 times? Under those conditions, Massachusetts bands would flourish instead of struggling to keep there head above water with 9 million other bands every weakend. Again. Just a theory. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:55pm - Revocation ""] more basement shows and bigger clubs that are willing to give metal a chance. and I hole heartedly agree with Niccolai. Everyone and their mother has a fuckin band these days and the vast majority of them suck. No one comes out to shows cause people are like "of you've got a band thats cool but you should check out my band "Tear Stained Wrists" we got tons of friends on myspace and we have sic breakdowns we are playing some hall in eastbum fuck this friday" |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:56pm - anonymous ""] god. 70 people would be awesome at a show. that's how fucking sad i am as a musician. -hooker |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:57pm - RichHorror ""] haha I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed. You want the scene to improve? Go to shows. Support local bands. Support your scene. It isn't fucking rocket science. Get killed. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 5:57pm - Niccolai ""] Also, Fests every once in a while would be a massive help. Chariot of fire fest, bostons dead, bitter end fest, ect. Nothing better and more unifying for metal than hundreds of kids in one room to see a handful of bands play. a much better alternative to 30 bands playing 6 different venues on the same night with a 50 person turnout in each one. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:00pm - Niccolai ""] RichHorror said:haha I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed. Not having a car, not being 21, not having a job, and being 30 miles away from boston prevents me from seeing as many shows as I would like, but that doesn't mean I haven't booked and played enough shows to realize what would increase turnout... |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:02pm - RichHorror ""] I never hear you bitching about the scene, because you are actually a part of it. Most geniuses who spout what needs to be done to fix everything are lameass motherfuckers that listen to some generic mediocre radio bullshit and go to like five shows a year. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:03pm - atreu77 ""] I support RichHorror for president |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:04pm - BornSoVile ""] more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS! |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:07pm - RichHorror ""] Everyone under 21, go to shows that are all ages or 18+. Support the bands that play those shows. People 21 and over, go to all the shows that pique your interest. Support all the bands. Promoters, actually promote your own shows. Have a brain in your fucking head and put together a good bill. Don't be a lazy jew-y faggot and make bands sell tickets so you they can play to nobody just so you can pay your headliner's guarantee without having to get off your ass. Bands, don't be fucking retarded and sell tickets or do pay-to-play gigs. Go to shows. Network with other bands. Get your name out there. Don't shit talk other bands like a bunch of fucking women. Actually flyer for the shows you play. Again. It's not hard. Just get off your ass and do something. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:08pm - RichHorror ""] BornSoVile said:more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS! This man knows. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:09pm - Niccolai ""] BornSoVile said:more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS! You know what happens to kids who sneak into the chopping block? .. Let me just say that's why it's called the chopping block. :spineyes: |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:10pm - RichHorror ""] That's when you listen from outside with Dissector and Cara. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:10pm - BornSoVile ""] come on niccolai, you never met the door guys there, they woulda let you in! |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:15pm - Niccolai ""] I missed out on sooo many good shows there. I wish I were old enough to choose not to legally drink. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:34pm - shamash ""] "Don't worry, Boston isn't a big college town" - Spinal Tap |
| _____________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:35pm - Napoleon_Blownapart ""] EriktheViking said: What's the problem? Not enough believers? Suspicious venue owners? We need the Mission (gay)Bar to close and the Choppin' Block to come back. That's a step in the right direction. edit: Didn't see this has already been brought up. MY B YO. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:36pm - RichHorror ""] I walked in that place to see if they had any info on the owner of the Block. That place is a menace and needs to be demolished. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:38pm - Napoleon_Blownapart ""] That coked-up little irish sprite wouldnt even serve me two beers at the same time. BITCH you dont know me! The Block would never deny me that... |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 6:39pm - RichHorror ""] I'd like to see the metrosexual jock homo doorguy raped and killed. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:07pm - Lamp ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:Boston is a very metal city indeed. It just seems the bands that make it big out of Boston make it look bad. Diecast? Godsmack? Bury Your Dead? Killswitch Engage? Case closed. Every city has big name bands that suck ass and misrepresnt their respective scenes. You think Zox represents the real underground Providence scene at all? With that said... FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:09pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Niccolai said:I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. I was going to say the same thing but you already said it. Also, I think the huge number of bands makes things competitive. Whether anybody wants to admit it or not, everybody's so fucking hellbent on doing shit for their own bands that they never help anybody out. The scene now is just a bunch of bands working alone and pushing everybody else out of the way to try to get ahead. Of course there are exceptions, though. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:09pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Additionally.... [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:12pm - dreadkill ""] ha |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:13pm - swamplorddvm ""] Boston is realy not very "metal". But it seems more "metal" than it was afew years ago. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:16pm - RichHorror ""] This goes back to what Niccolai was saying about Brockton... how much more metal do you need Boston to be? Go look at the events page on this site. Basically every week, there's metal shows. Do you want them every night? That's fucking retarded, if so. Oversaturation is death. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:20pm - THE UNITY RAINBOW WARRIOR ""] I think the EASTCIDE re-union show will be the kizzzick in the pizzantz the scene needs.Word is bond son. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:21pm - RichHorror ""] I can't argue with that. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:23pm - swamplorddvm ""] Shows afew times a week is cool. But it's certain kinds of metal that is lacking in boston. I don't mean to sound like tool. But that's the way I feel. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:28pm - dreadkill ""] yeah, there are way too many death metal, metalcore, and deathcore bands around, but there's plenty of variety around here. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:30pm - RichHorror ""] That's called 'the shit I like isn't around here'. The sort of stuff that is on the top of my list isn't around here either. Or in this part of the country. You move to Europe, I'll move to the west coast. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:32pm - Lamp ""] I'm taking the next ticket to the San Francisco bay area. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:33pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] RichHorror said:The sort of stuff that is on the top of my list isn't around here either. Ditto. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:34pm - RichHorror ""] This thread would be more accurate if it was titled 'There are too many queer bands that I don't like in Boston'. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 7:36pm - RichHorror ""] Around here, the only metal bands I like play thrash, for the most part. And a lot of the thrash bands I think are shitty and gay because they play more of the european-melodic style. Teratism is gone, so BOE is the only death metal band I really like. Anything else I like that's local isn't really 'metal'. Or isn't from Massachusetts. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:00pm - pam ""] Rich has it right. Go to fucking shows. Problem solved. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:00pm - RichHorror ""] I have everything right all the time. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:02pm - pam ""] Obviously some people need to be reminded of that. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:06pm - RichHorror ""] Anyone who disagrees with me has their name legally changed to Cunty McShitballs. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:06pm - THE UNITY RAINBOW WARRIOR ""] Yo Jake D! Bring the nizzoise to these perpatratorz.Boston Metal Beats-Whut!YA HEARD?!!!! |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:08pm - sinistas ""] I basically will agree with the general sentiment of this thread, and say: "Stop being such a humongous faggot and go to more shows." There's a shitload of metal around now, especially compared to a couple of years ago. Stop complaining and enjoy it while it lasts. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:09pm - RichHorror ""] EAT CHINESE FOOD OR DIE. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:09pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Is there really more than there was a couple of years ago? I think it's about the same. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:11pm - pam ""] It seems like there's more now. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:12pm - RichHorror ""] Yeah, it is. It's just some bands that are around now weren't back then or didn't play as many shows with the mainstay bands. To me, a lot of bands broke up and no new bands stepped up to more or less take their place as 'mainstay' type bands. Maybe that's just me, though. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:16pm - sinistas ""] Maybe it's that more of the gay music I'm into is around now. *shrug* There seems to be a lot more shows, though. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:19pm - RichHorror ""] I don't see it. O'Briens and The Choppin' Block were both places that regularly had solid shows. Even when O'Briens is back, that is it. Hopefully The Skybar becomes such a place, but it still remains to be seen. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:52pm - anonymous ""] There needs to be more venues... Reflections just made a new policy to only allow cover bands So I hear... Thats gay.. Riot and burn the place I say |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 8:54pm - RichHorror ""] Reflections in Chelmsford? Or the junkie one in New Bedford? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 9:03pm - selloutd0od ""] Reflections in Chelmsford.. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 9:04pm - selloutd0od ""] Torch it |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 9:05pm - chris_from_shit_fuck ""] RichHorror said:haha I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed. You want the scene to improve? Go to shows. Support local bands. Support your scene. It isn't fucking rocket science. Get killed. Agree 100%!! |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 9:05pm - selloutd0od ""] But thats what I've heard.. Rich.. I haven't actually seen any notice or anything.. I was told by a neighbor @ our jamspace the other night |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 9:08pm - RichHorror ""] Pretty lame. No big shock though. It had good sound and everything, just didn't do a lot with it. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 9:11pm - selloutd0od ""] Yeah.. They had ALOT of 1 pm shows and stuff.. No one wants to go to a show in the afternoon.. Same thing with Harpers Ferry.. They have those saturday afternoon shows.. = Gay |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 18,2007 10:58pm - timmy porphyria ""] atreu77 said:all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:05am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] 1. rich, i believe i will start disagreeing with you ONLY so my name is legally changed to cunty mcshitballs. 2. if i eat chinese food i die. so i guess cunty mcshitballs is a dead man. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:13am - Niccolai ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:i guess cunty mcshitballs is a dead man. ... if only. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:18am - Troll ""] Boston was never overtly Metal anyways. Always dominated by hardcore and punk. Metal is alive and well in the rural New England. Always was always will be. Where do you think most of these nameless metallers that are packing venues like the Palladium and Middle East are driving from? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:28am - anonymous ""] FuckIsMySignature said:move Boston to Worcester. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:37am - Troll ""] Metal people should be more assertive in their local area and take more of a D.I.Y. stance. It takes some work but you can build a scene in your hometown from the bottom up. Berlin NH is a good example. You don't need to drive 200 miles out of town to see a good show but people were willing to drive 200 miles (or more in some cases) to our area at one point. It's kinda slowed down a bit lately but the repercussions of our activities have already influenced another generation of kids that look like they will one day carry the torch and Keep The Fucking Metal Flame Alive!))))))))))) < btw, thats an echo |
| ________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 9:25am - xmikex ""] fests suck marathon shows suck most local metal bands suck i'm not getting out of bed for anything less than Entombed |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 10:36am - passerby ""] I would make vulgar tattoos mandatory and a drug dependency necessary. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 19,2007 10:41am - Yeti ""] Archaeon said:21+ shows, poor promotion, and current shitty youth music movements you just summed it up. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 19,2007 10:43am - Yeti ""] RichHorror said:Yeah, it is. It's just some bands that are around now weren't back then or didn't play as many shows with the mainstay bands. To me, a lot of bands broke up and no new bands stepped up to more or less take their place as 'mainstay' type bands. Maybe that's just me, though. i have to agree, though alot of bands arent given the credit they deserve because the mindset is "you arent old school". i mean not all, but there are some. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 11:05am - Anthony ""] It's been said already but the answer is painfully fucking simple... GO TO SHOWS.. there, now we have an awesome, crazy, fun metal scene. It's that.fucking.simple. Also when bands desperate to put 'we played with so-and-so' on their presskit are willing to whore themselves out to paytoplay venues like Mark's, you are enabling those scumbags. If no bands would work with them, they wouldnt be able to pay the tour guarantees without doing any work, and they wouldnt be doing metal shows because then the lazy shits would actually have to promote to make back their money. There'll always be bands willing to buy into that pay-to-play shit though, so Mark's and it's ilk will continue to thrive and more and more great tours will be coming to Bedford, NH as their only Northeast date instead of Boston or Worcester. There are alot of bands that I respect and am cool with that have done the Mark's pay to play bullshit, so no offense to them, but I would never do it. And imo, nobody should be doing it. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:05pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Some guido skanks from Jersey were in my cab the other night asking me if I knew of any good clubs near their hotel (in Newton) I tried to con them into going to DeeDee's but they weren't biting. So I took them to Lansdowne Street via Somerville because they weren't supporting the scene. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:07pm - Messerschmitt ""] dee dee's? newton? |
| ______________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:39pm - pam ""] Mark's sucks and so does Worcester. That is all. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:41pm - Yeti ""] haha Worcester has alot of potential to be a focal point. its unfortunate that its practically overrun with scenesters. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:51pm - pam ""] Worcester is full of elitist douchebags (obviously not EVERYONE but most), shady clubs, and raft-floaters. I'll take Boston, thanks. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 12:55pm - MadOakDevin ""] i didn't know Boston had a problem with the metal scene? i worked at O'Brien's for a few months and the metal shows were always the best shows. Even though there were a few people who have shitty attitudes and can't get over the fact that you CAN be nice and metal and the same time, metal did great there. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 19,2007 1:06pm - pam ""] O'B's shows were always my favorite. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 1:48pm - EriktheViking ""] Oh yeah, I went to OB's for months and they had great stuff like Heavy Metal Breakdown and the Atomic BBQ. It feels to me though like once OB's shut down, the bottom fell out of the local scene. Sure, the occasional show at Skybar or in Quincy, but no more local hang-out type place. Oh, and I sure as hell didn't plan on starting a flame war. Sorry. Maybe there's a way people can help promote the bands? Dedicated fans handing out flyers/stickers/etc. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 2:26pm - anonymous ""] timmy porphyria said:atreu77 said:all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag. atreu= a charecter from the never ending story. no need to badmouth people you don't know, or the reason behind their user names |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 2:34pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] anonymous said:timmy porphyria said:atreu77 said:all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag. atreu= a charecter from the never ending story. no need to badmouth people you don't know, or the reason behind their user names :point: truth |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 2:36pm - atreu77 ""] oops, that was my ann. post. all i was trying to say is that these kids(i.e middle school) listen to poop the media giants feed them. they have little to no idea about musician ship, since all the stuff they listen to is manufactured in a studio. ps- thanks, fuck! |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 2:37pm - Sacreligion ""] OB's smelled funny the last time I was there(October, I think...on my birthday actually) there's nothign wrong with Worcester, it just scares outsiders...there's a lot of cool, good bands from here and the surrounding areas i think not enough people go to shows because they're poor...it's the truth...they'd much rather spend $10 to get shitty at home then go out to pay $5+ for a cover and another $20+ on beer, not to mention gas and food and such it's a sad reality but i think it's true...that and the fact that there really isn't an AWESOME band from around here anymore...there's a lot of good bands, but not one that everyone can get behind. the genre divisions are killing it as well. when i used to go to gay nu-metal shows there'd be all sorts of different types of bands, but every person would stay and watch every band, that's a rare occurrence now |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 2:40pm - Sacreligion ""] also, a lot of people on here don't recognize what goes on outside of the metal scene...there are a ton of rock bands, rap groups, younger metalcore bands, techno, etc. that you'd never hear about but draw huge numbers to their shows the fact of the matter is that not many people really like metal |
| _____________________________ [Jan 19,2007 2:55pm - Dar ""] Too many 21+ venues is what always killed it for me For the handful of local bands that I liked enough to actually go out just to see them, I'd say 80% of the shows in MA where at a venue I couldn't get into and a good deal of the smaller nationals as well also to me looking at the lineups of a lot of local shows...it often didn't seem like bands were booked based on a common sound, maybe just slapped together cuz of mutual friends or whatever here in san francisco where I'm still really new to the scene, there are numerous tiny "underground" all ages venues that frequently put on metal shows, there's the Gilman which is also all ages (usually punk shows but GHOUL are playin there soon) and if you go to a show where a band like Hatchet or Fog of War (local thrash bands) are playing, the bill will most likely have 3 or 4 other thrash bands on it too. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:07pm - timmy porphyria ""] FuckIsMySignature said:anonymous said:timmy porphyria said:atreu77 said:all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do yeah, ok cockwasher, your user name is atreu77, who are you to say who is impressionable? assbag. atreu= a charecter from the never ending story. no need to badmouth people you don't know, or the reason behind their user names :point: truth atreu character = gay atreyu band = gay, divide the sum of these two parts and add retards and you get ultra gay squared. maybe I'm just sick seeing people post stupid shit on here, maybe I'm being an asshole, but you're definitely right about one thing, I don't need to know people to badmouth them. kewl kewl troo kvlt LOFL ROFL OMFG. If you want to bring metal back in boston get your fat ass off the computer and start a band that will blow every other band in the area out of the water. Then when those stoooooopid middle school kids start showing up to your shows, buy your merch and provide your gas money to get home, and put food in your stomach you can get your fat ass back on the computer and talk shit to the rejects who make fun of those very same kids. Bottom line is we need all the kids we can get because bands playing for bands sure as shit isn't getting the job done. So shut the fuck up and do something positive in the (minimal) metal scene around here. So what if the kids' parents are loaded? Their fault? no. So what if they're in middle school? Yeah kid grow up faster so you can be old and waste your life on return to the pit and bitch about the scene. They are the future for this scene, so lets degrede them because they're impressionable and young and watch MTV and drives dad's cadillac on the weekend, good plan. Because I love playing in front of TS, BMR, Goreality and Abnormality every show. Fuck anyone else seeing me play. :point:gay |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:10pm - Sacreligion ""] haha no one else gets it tim |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:33pm - atreu77 ""] woah? what are you talking about? #1- i'm not talking shit #2- i was just offering up an opinion on a public forum #3- i have no idea who the band atreu is. i was simply stating the fact that underaged kids need to be exposed to as many different types metal, since all they really get is the stuff from mtv, vh1 and the radio. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:35pm - Sacreligion ""] dude you're not metal unless you know who atreyu is so you can make fun of them |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:37pm - atreu77 ""] i never made fun of a band named atreu. i have the name because i happen to like the never ending story |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:37pm - atreu77 ""] and i'm not a dude |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:51pm - Sacreligion ""] dude you totally missed the point of what i was saying dude |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:51pm - Sacreligion ""] re-punctuated Sacreligion said:dude, you're not metal unless you know who atreyu is...so you can make fun of them |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:51pm - anonymous ""] point taken |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:52pm - Niccolai ""] You wanna know another reason boston turnouts aren't as good as they could be? People are bashing that atreu77 person, solely for their name. I know they are a noob, and I know they are lieing when they say they've never heard of Atreyu and only names themselves after the little indian guy from NES, and i know they probably own at least one thursday shirt, but think about how many potential show goers/merchbuyers/show bookers never develope due to the metal elitist attitude chasing them off. By all means, make fun of Atreyu and it's cool to give people a hard time if they fit a stereo type, especially one you think is fruity, but it's the kids who listen to bands like Atreyu that are the impressionable ones that will go to shows, and support bands. I know some of you are saying 'we don't want those kids at our shows anyways'. But think about how many of them there are. If you can impress a mallcore homo with a handfull of decent metal bands, they will move on and denie that they ever listened to any gay bands (just like everyone else does). By the way atreu77, we are all capable thinkers on this board and don't need a revolutionary that no one can identify. This is a good place to network and get involved in better metal than you already are cought up in, so don't ruin the opprtuniny by giving these guys reasons to make fun of you. I recomeng that you read before posting, and not try and jump on the revolutionary bandwagon without knowing anyone here. Are my rants in this thread getting to gay? |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:53pm - BornSoVile ""] everyone's a fucking expert, but still more than half you fuckers havn't been around for more than 2 years and still all of you never go to shows and suck at promoting them. has the whole world gone crazy? am I the only one that gives a fuck about the rules? |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:55pm - atreu77 ""] i seriously have never heard of atreu. i mostly listen to the stuff my husband has, which is all good shit. and what is a thursday shirt? |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:56pm - atreu77 ""] and yes, i'm a noob, and i was just thinking out loud. no disrespect to anyone, just throwing ideas around was all |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 3:58pm - atreu77 ""] and had i known that this atreu band was not that good, i probably would've never used the name, because i seriously like the movie |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:00pm - Niccolai ""] atreu77, now I'm convinced that you're a fake poster. Josh, I challenge you to Mortal Kombat. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:02pm - Sacreligion ""] i was not insulting you at all...i was making a very dry joke...i actually think it gave me cottonmouth |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:04pm - Sacreligion ""] BornSoVile said:everyone's a fucking expert, but still more than half you fuckers havn't been around for more than 2 years and still all of you never go to shows and suck at promoting them. has the whole world gone crazy? am I the only one that gives a fuck about the rules? WOOO i'm in the special half that's over 2 years i'd go to more shows if i wasn't poor and had a car...but i think i already said something about this earlier |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:15pm - timmy porphyria ""] I not only rip on atreu77 for posting such retarded fuckery, but also agreeing with this statement . . menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:metal is stupid atreu77 said:thank you, i think? How the fuck can you even comment about building or keeping the boston metal scene alive if you agree that metal is supid retard? |
| _________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:18pm - atreu77 ""] that was actually in response to eriktheviking. i should've been more clear. and no, i do not in any was think that metal is stupid |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:26pm - timmy porphyria ""] Ok you're right. You're a self-admitted NOOB who digs metal. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:29pm - anonymous ""] thanks. we should try and start again. i think it was a bad case of mis-communication |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:35pm - timmy porphyria ""] there was no mis-communication. You said something that pissed me off and I'm letting you know about it. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 4:40pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Pour molten lead over the city of Boston. Cant get more metal than that. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 5:01pm - Archaeon ""] atreu77 said:i never made fun of a band named atreu. i have the name because i happen to like the never ending story How can you like the never ending story if you don't know the ending? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 5:25pm - the_reverend ""] I guess it takes juan to know juan. [img] |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 6:08pm - Samantha ""] pam said:Worcester is full of elitist douchebags (obviously not EVERYONE but most), shady clubs, and raft-floaters. I'll take Boston, thanks. Sacreligion said:there's nothign wrong with Worcester, it just scares outsiders...there's a lot of cool, good bands from here and the surrounding areas I've never known anyone in Worcester to be an elitist, and I haven't run into anyone around here who has a crappy attitude. I think there are some pretty simple reasons why there is more happening around Worcester these days. Most of the people I know have the same attitude: Go to shows, have fun, meet new people. Most people are open to making new friends and getting more shows to happen. It's not any kind of scenester B.S. It's just simple logic. If you like going to local metal shows, and you want to continue going to local metal shows... keep going to shows, don't start unnecessary drama or be an asshole for no good reason, and if you can do something to make sure that the good shows keep happening (like booking a band or inviting a few friends to come to a show), do it. It's not rocket science. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 6:32pm - horror_tang ""] Samantha said:blah, blah, blah... I don't remember inviting you into this thread. Hit the road you crazy dame. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 6:33pm - horror_tang ""] menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:Additionally.... [img] I guess I am glad Eddie cut his hair. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 6:47pm - facefullofzircon ""] ! |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 19,2007 6:52pm - facefullofzircon ""] timmy said If you want to bring metal back in boston get your fat ass off the computer and start a band that will blow every other band in the area out of the water. Then when those stoooooopid middle school kids start showing up to your shows, buy your merch and provide your gas money to get home, and put food in your stomach you can get your fat ass back on the computer and talk shit to the rejects who make fun of those very same kids. Bottom line is we need all the kids we can get because bands playing for bands sure as shit isn't getting the job done. So shut the fuck up and do something positive in the (minimal) metal scene around here. So what if the kids' parents are loaded? Their fault? no. So what if they're in middle school? Yeah kid grow up faster so you can be old and waste your life on return to the pit and bitch about the scene. They are the future for this scene, so lets degrede them because they're impressionable and young and watch MTV and drives dad's cadillac on the weekend, good plan. Because I love playing in front of TS, BMR, Goreality and Abnormality every show. Fuck anyone else seeing me play. :point:gay :doublehorns::doublehorns: AyyyeeeYUP! |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 20,2007 4:55pm - anonymous ""] rttp is full of elitist douchebags |
| _____________________________ [Jan 20,2007 6:32pm - pam ""] This thread got really gay, really fast. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 20,2007 6:39pm - pam ""] Also, Kelly (atreu77) is an extremely nice person that goes to a lot of shows and doesn't deserve the shitstorm she's getting. I realize she's a n00b on here and must be beaten down and stripped of her self-worth immediately but goddamn. This thread is stupid, Boston is awesome, shut the hell up. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Jan 20,2007 8:33pm - BlackMetalLady on Route 24 ""] I figured talk is cheap. I am going to do something about it. Pam I will see you tonight at the show after I stop off at a friend's house in Assonet. We can either settle this like adults and have a Merlot together or be neanderthals and fight. I would rather just try and settle this and end the drama. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 20,2007 10:58pm - succubus ""] atreu77 said:oops, that was my ann. post. all i was trying to say is that these kids(i.e middle school) listen to poop the media giants feed them. they have little to no idea about musician ship, since all the stuff they listen to is manufactured in a studio. ps- thanks, fuck! sorry but i disagree...how do you know what "middle school" kids listen to? way to be negative though...is that how you were when you were in middle school? whatever |
| ________________________________ [Jan 20,2007 11:55pm - eddie ""] horror_tang said:menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:Additionally.... [img] I guess I am glad Eddie cut his hair. looks more like tyler when he had hair. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 21,2007 2:06am - RichHorror ""] Women belong in the kitchen. END OF THREAD |
| __________________________________ [Jan 21,2007 5:20am - Samantha ""] BlackMetalLady on Route 24 said:I figured talk is cheap. I am going to do something about it. Pam I will see you tonight at the show after I stop off at a friend's house in Assonet. We can either settle this like adults and have a Merlot together or be neanderthals and fight. I would rather just try and settle this and end the drama. The infamous BlackMetalLady did not attend the show tonight. (Fake poster?) |
| ______________________________ [Jan 21,2007 12:23pm - pam ""] Yeah it was Jeff. |