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[QUOTE="xmikex:552824"]I think the nu-grind fascination is pretty much over with. It seems like what happened was like 6 years ago the term "grind" became a lot more ambiguous. Lots of metalcore was becoming a lot more agressive. You had the fruitcake 18 Visions side that was very popular, and marketable, you had the Undying watered down ATG melodic stuff, and you had the early Red Chord which was the progression of some of the darker previous metalcore. Generally speaking, if you were in a metalcore band at the time you either wanted to be 18 Visions, Undying or The Red Chord. The fruitcake, and melodic styles sort of became the new standard for what was considered "metalcore." Meanwhile, other bands like the Red Chord, As the Sun Sets clones, etc which had a much more obvious death metal influence seemed to be more associated with the term "grind", not so much as to express affinity with Assuck, and Brutal Truth, but more to separate themselves from "metalcore". I remember reading an interview with Guy from the Red Chord when they were starting to get big. He said that labeling their band as "grindcore" was something they did very reluctantly. He said they knew they weren't really a "grind" band but since (at the time) it was such an open term, and their style didn't really match what was then accepted as "metalcore", grindcore seemed to fit. Simply put the tag, "grindcore" became kind of the refuge for bands that were doing anything out of the ordinary. Then the scarf monsters came. The screamo-emo-emoviolence-puss grind wave swept over everything. Bands like Daughters were elevated to the level of Gods. It wasn't enough to play faux-tech, formulaic nu-grind. You had to make out with your drummer while you were doing it. This is what happens when you let 16 year olds dictate what goes on. All of those kids either listen to the Faint, or are in youth crew hardcore bands today. When I did Letters From the Dead we knew we weren't really "grind." Terrorizer was one of the first metal bands I ever listened to. I had been buying Napalm Death cds since I was 15. Assuck was one of my favorite bands. We knew the difference, but we called ourselves grind anyways because whenever I thought of metalcore I thought of either 14 year olds playing boring melodic scales and chug parts in their garage, or closet homosexuals rubbing their nutsacks on eachothers guitars. We wanted to do something a little different so rather than justifying our band as "ATSS ripoffs meets Ehnarhe ripoffs meets..." we just gave up and called it grindcore.[/QUOTE]
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