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[QUOTE="Lamp:550757"]I don't think any Dillinger Escape Plan is really grind, I think of it as the start of the so called math metal thing. Not to discredit any type of music flat out, but I get the impression that like 95% of the people here have no knowledge of punk and hardcore because they like metal so much which is okay. To me, saying that grind is metal is wrong. But I also think saying that grind is hardcore is also wrong. I think it's really a merger of the two that got pushed to a new extreme. At least in its purest form anyway. Some people also clump in powerviolence with grindcore and while I don't think this is necessarily flat out wrong either, I personally think it evolved much more out of hardcore(even though a lot of modern powerviolence bands have a more metal edge to them).[/QUOTE]
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