rackmounts and anything that you put in them[views:6634][posts:24]________________________________________ [Oct 14,2003 8:49pm - xDysenteryTomx ""] Alright, i always see these things with big bands i dont really understand them....what do you put in them....guitar effects? can you customize your own sound with them? What do they do?.. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 14,2003 8:55pm - moran ""] Anything that is guitar related. Effects, pre-amps, tuners. Pretty much all the basic stuff, its better than having a giant floor board. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 14,2003 9:19pm - baneofexistence ""] i have in mine from the top a rack power strip with lights a shure wireless a sabian rack tuner a digitech gsp 21 legnd II (the basis of my distortion and sound) bottom in the back i have a ada stereo power amp 100 watts per side i use this for shows cause i can never get my heads to shows or my 4X12's either it's all about what you like that matters if you like stomp boxes or even your amps natural distortion rock on, me i like digital and fx for fx i use a harmonizer, deley and chorus with a lot of distortion the deley and chorus only in certin parts of songs the harmonizer is always on except in the second half of the solo in from soild heart to infected tongue (on the cd it was another guitarist all together so i try and emulate what he did live) |
| ____________________________________________ [Oct 14,2003 9:49pm - housebythecemetery ""] sabian makes guitar stuff also? |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2003 9:56pm - xDysenteryTomx ""] thanxs man, but what would you recomend getting for starters when it comes to al that stuff, like for basics what does the pre amp do?....dont think im stupid hahah im just uninformed and young.. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2003 10:14pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] Pre-amp prepares the sound before amplification. A normal guitar head has a pre-amp in it (basically clean/distortion channel volume) along with the basic amplifier itself which only does volume, doesn't affect the quality of the sound. Other good stuff in a rack mount: 1/3 Octave 31-band EQ (2/3 Octave and/or 15-band is a waste of money in my eyes) Sonic Maximizer Tuner Effect processor(s) Light/Power strip if you need it The only necessities are a pre-amp and a power amp. Everything else is just bells and whistles, some far more important than others. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 14,2003 10:58pm - xPaulBLAHBLAHx ""] bane of existance = GODLY guitar tone |
| __________________________________ [Oct 14,2003 11:55pm - Terence ""] figure it this way, power amp = volume pre-amp = your sound you want equalizer = fine tune your sound there are so many other things such as compressers, noise reduction, guitar synths, tuners in my opinion a good pre-amp should have all these things already built in, instead of looking like you have a suitcase full of money for a head |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 12:20am - attendmyrequiem ""] my rack includes a noise gate. It gets rid of that shitty hiss. other than that i haven't found anything else i would like to add to it at this point. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 2:00am - the_reverend ""] basically, rack mounts give you less-room for knobs/pedals/controls, but gives you all the same functions. They are also usually less expensive then full models. terence, I disagree about getting it all in one... single point of failure and all. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 2:10am - v1olenc3 ""] i have a rack and i personally hate the fucking thing, i want a nice tube amp, either a Framus, VHT, or Mesa Right now i run this 250 stero power amp (125 per side @4ohm, 250 mono @ 8ohm, i have a 4ohm cab so i can only use one side) digitech 2112 pre amp BBE Sonic max (386 or 382...i dunno) and my power conditioner. right now i'm having major issues with my digitech as it's becoming outdated (major drawback for most digital preamp/proccessors) but i'm looking to get a new preamp, either a marshall or the VHT valvulator, but both are pricey. Racks are clunky and in my case pretty heavy so i'm anti rack currently. maybe when i get a new preamp i'll be happier with it. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 2:27am - DeOdiumMortis ""] My Ampeg tube head is better at having sex with women than all your power amp rigs. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 8:45am - baneofexistence ""] i think i spelt it wronge (sue me) housebythecemetery said:sabian makes guitar stuff also? |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 8:45am - baneofexistence ""] thanx :NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS: xPaulBLAHBLAHx said:bane of existance = GODLY guitar tone |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 9:03am - baneofexistence ""] depends on what you are after for a sound really get a good preamp there are many out there i'd research em on the web (i actually read guitar magizine reviews of the gsp 21 legend befor i got mine) this is what i have for a power amp in mine now ADA Microtube 100 Stereo power amp it's not loud enough for a hall show with no mic'd cabs but fine for actual clubs with the cabs mic'd http://i21.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/be/f5/c1_1.JPG i have this but it weighs a ton ADA pro power amp amplifier B200S so i don't use it anymore for the studio i use a marshall and pv 5150 heads through 2 pv 5150 cabs xDysenteryTomx said:thanxs man, but what would you recomend getting for starters when it comes to al that stuff, like for basics what does the pre amp do?....dont think im stupid hahah im just uninformed and young.. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 15,2003 9:38am - Hoser ""] Rackmounts bad. Analog effects pedals GOOD (Boss / Roland) Rackmount amps......OK, I can see that, but would never own one. Bad part about analog effects pedals = You better have a back-up AC power supply. I stomp the shit outta my pedals and always break the tips off of the AC adapters. Rackmount effects need MIDI adapters that are a pain in the ass to set up. It's up in the air.....speaking of air, I just fuckin' farted. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 9:51am - baneofexistence ""] my set up is so basic you could have a monkey to set it up footpedal cord goes to the pedal the speaker cords to the speakers (and i have em marked which goes to the right and left) plug the guitar in and i'm good to go Hoser said:Rackmounts bad. Analog effects pedals GOOD (Boss / Roland) Rackmount amps......OK, I can see that, but would never own one. Bad part about analog effects pedals = You better have a back-up AC power supply. I stomp the shit outta my pedals and always break the tips off of the AC adapters. Rackmount effects need MIDI adapters that are a pain in the ass to set up. It's up in the air.....speaking of air, I just fuckin' farted. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 11:43am - Hoser ""] Hooray for simplicity..... You ever read the back of that communist magazine "GUITAR WORLD?" It shows some bands set-ups for guitar.....no wonder these assholes need guitar techs. Fuckin' dickheads |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2003 12:28pm - dyingmuse ""] rackmout is the way to go! i have a qcs power amp dod steroi eq digitec rp 2000 2 labtec 4 by 10s jackson dinky custom reverse usa |
| ______________________________ [Oct 15,2003 9:21pm - blue ""] rackmount is better than you. where else can you get your entire amp with a tuner, a noise gate, and other good stuff all in a case you can beat the crap out of? |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 16,2003 12:39am - goratory ""] ya, I used to use pedals and it got old real fast. I had my distortion pedal, my equalizer, and was forced to use the boss niosegate pedal also cause the metal zone was so noisey. A cord would start cutting out live and I would have to change them out one by one untill I found which one was fucking up. Also, they would always come unplugged from the crowd or me tripping over them. My rack made life a hell of alot easier. I use the Roctron Chameleon and I think it sounds awesome |
| __________________________________ [Oct 16,2003 1:52am - v1olenc3 ""] at this point i'm pretty content with my rigg, My power amp is rocktron, it's a really basic power amp with a couple knobs to adjust the sound for your cab, But i have some major issues with my digitech 2112, First off it's out put level is so drastic from my clean channel, to my distorted. no matter what i do i can't get the damn thing to stay comparable to my dist channel in terms of volume. Also i there have been 2 sepperate occasions where i would find a distrotion tone i really like but it sends the unit into digital clip. i don't think the unit was designed for people that play metal, if i was in a space rock band i think i would love this unit. maybe when i get a new preamp i'll like rack stuff more. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 16,2003 3:53am - Terence ""] the_reverend said: terence, I disagree about getting it all in one... single point of failure and all. No way. Having all the shit together is so much better. Sure it will take hours to configure your sound, but in the end its so worth it. I would actually have sex with my rackmount equipment! And rightfully so!! I paid enough for it. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 16,2003 3:54pm - litacore ""] once you get a rack you'll never go back. 8-space all ya need. I still use a Boss Hyper Metal and EQ and Dunlop volume pedal, but the Behringer pre-amp and the GK head make it sound better than ever. next thing to do? Buy a tour bus, ha-ha-ha! Buy a country while you're at it!:ralphie::gun: |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 16,2003 4:00pm - RustedAngel ""] none of your rackmounts can have as much tone as a true HEAD :spineyes: |