Let's fuck the underdogs... Russian website sells our music without our permission, or paying us royalties
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[Jan 10,2006 12:51pm - DreamingInExile ""]
So, Dan got a google alert for Shroud of Bereavement today, and he contained a link to a place to buy our CD ...Of Ages, IN ITS ENTIRETY online as .mp3's for $0.99. along with the site that he got the link in the google alert for, I also found another site that has the CD for $0.79 as mp3's.
We are not seeing a penny of royalties for this, and it's TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!
Dan's pissed, as am I, and I'm sure the rest of the band will be ready to kill once they catch wind of this.
not only that, but they stole a picture from Return to the Pit on one of the sites so they could post a picture of us
I'm preparing a cease and dessist letter to send to both websites.
here's the link that has aaron's picture on it: http://www.mp3sugar.com/shroud-of-bereavement-s4907/
and here's the one that Dan got the google alert for:
http://mp3dir.crimea.ua/Shroud_Of_Bereavement.html
It's all based out of Russia, so I'm not sure if there is a whole lot we can do about it. Anyone have any legal advice?
On top of that, all you local bands that have released anything, you may too want to look for your stuff and see if your shit is being sold royalty free without your consent.
FUCK THIS SHIT!!! :middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger::middlefinger:
[Jan 10,2006 1:51pm - mark fucking richards ""]
that is pretty fucked up; i don't care about giving songs away for free for promotional purposes, but the principle that someone's making money off of you without consent is bull shit.
[Jan 10,2006 1:54pm - the_reverend ""]
god damn, I need to get in on that.
"in russia, internet downloads you"
[Jan 10,2006 1:59pm - DreamingInExile ""]
mark fucking richards said:that is pretty fucked up; i don't care about giving songs away for free for promotional purposes, but the principle that someone's making money off of you without consent is bull shit.
exactly. free promotional downloads or samplers are fine, but when someone is cashing in on something someone else spent their time in creating.
:middlefinger:
[Jan 10,2006 2:01pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
what's a google alert?
[Jan 10,2006 2:02pm - succubus ""]
first off, i recommend all local bands check the site and make sure they aren't doing the same thing to you...
strength in numbers..
ps: imho i'd change the title, at least edit it to sort of explain what's happening so other bands will read and check out their band...
[Jan 10,2006 2:03pm - the_reverend ""]
change the title to anal warts
[Jan 10,2006 2:11pm - mr miller ""]
been telling dan for years now,,do it cause you love it,and GIVE it away!
[Jan 10,2006 2:12pm - the_reverend ""]
the subject is still anal warts, right?
[Jan 10,2006 2:15pm - DreamingInExile ""]
succubus said:ps: imho i'd change the title, at least edit it to sort of explain what's happening so other bands will read and check out their band...
good point Carina, I edited the title
P.S. Carina, get in touch with me I need to discuss some things with you.
[Jan 10,2006 2:19pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:what's a google alert?
[Jan 10,2006 2:21pm - DreamingInExile ""]
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said:what's a google alert?
it's something google sends out and lets you know what the popular search terms are to find your website address, along with other things that come up when you search, say: Shroud of Bereavement
[Jan 10,2006 2:24pm - the_reverend ""]
whoah..
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Red+Chord/_/Live+on+Return+To+The+Pit
[Jan 10,2006 2:32pm - succubus ""]
hi! I'm at work now but i'm done at 4
email me
carina@ defyunlearn . com
i won't be able to check email for a bit but i'll get back to you tonight!
[Jan 10,2006 2:32pm - DreamingInExile ""]
the internet sucks...
[Jan 10,2006 2:32pm - succubus ""]
aaron.,..whoah what? are they charging to listen to your show too?
[Jan 10,2006 2:33pm - brian_dc ""]
hmmm
http://www.last.fm/music/Dour+cursiva/_/old+glory+hole
I'm shocked that the one downloadable song we have up from what we recorded just last month is up....
however, I'm offended that only one person has listened?
I don't know...this is weird.
[Jan 10,2006 2:36pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
only one person has downloaded it
it goes for the times people play it from iTunes I believe
[Jan 10,2006 2:36pm - succubus ""]
wait wait...lastfm doesn't appear to charge...it's the top ones posted by shroud
[Jan 10,2006 2:39pm - succubus ""]
here's the link:
http://www.mp3sugar.com/search.dhtml?select=artist&q=taste+of+silver
i checked for Dour Coursiva, Porphyria and Taste of silver under artist and nothing comes up
[Jan 10,2006 2:40pm - succubus ""]
haha the url still has the band name from my last search here:
http://www.mp3sugar.com/search.dhtml
[Jan 10,2006 2:55pm - CNV ""]
my band is on there
[Jan 10,2006 3:04pm - nate nli ""]
I've found Leukorrhea on a ton of these overseas sites that are charging people for the downloads. I've e-mailed them all and got no response. If anyone hears from these places let me know because I would like to file a cease and desist as well. Its bullshit.
[Jan 10,2006 3:15pm - cav ""]
did they just steal the songs from peoples myspace sites??? this is wicked bs
[Jan 10,2006 3:18pm - succubus ""]
post the url
make a list in here and i'll see what i can do...
please post the URL and your band name
thanks
[Jan 10,2006 3:28pm - Troll ""]
Crazy Thread!
Thats bullshit eh?!
I know that Dan puts his blood and soul into his music...
..If anyone should benefit from it it should be him!
Damn Russian's!!!! I thought the cold war was over!
[Jan 10,2006 3:36pm - Troll ""]
This is probably how Metallica felt about there music except they were already rich! LOL!
Bummer guys...It's like takin' food right out of your baby's mouth.
[Jan 10,2006 4:02pm - nate nli ""]
It's not songs from myspace, it's all the songs from every full length and split cd we've released. When I get home ill paste the url's Carina. Thanks.
[Jan 10,2006 4:20pm - DreamingInExile ""]
Troll said:I know that Dan puts his blood and soul into his music...
I see that every day working with him, but, it's bullshit for ANY of us to have this going on. it's not like we make millions, or even any money at all (I think one if the last shows we played the 7 of us had to split like $20...
[Jan 10,2006 4:21pm - darkenedsoul ""]
Find the IP address of the site(s) in question, go to the ARIN/WhoIs database and find out who the administrator is for that network/addresses and contact them that way. It's one way to look up the assholes and put pressure on them as well.
[Jan 10,2006 5:16pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
succubus said:here's the link:
http://www.mp3sugar.com/search.dhtml?select=artist&q=taste+of+silver
i checked for Dour Coursiva, Porphyria and Taste of silver under artist and nothing comes up
you have commited the greatest of all sins, Carina. You got our name wrong.
The Taste of Silver comes up with 41 recent listeners
[Jan 10,2006 5:19pm - succubus ""]
umm what?
i searched ARTIST and you don't need to enter every word....but i did just for you and nothing comes up
http://www.mp3sugar.com/search.dhtml?select=artist&q=the+taste+of+silver
[Jan 10,2006 7:43pm - Nate ""]
here's a few I found so far...
http://delit.net/music/album_list_world.phtml?id=15085
http://mp3wolf.net/ru/artist-Leukorrhea/3328/
http://www.oxid.ru/mp3/mp3.php?id=483184
[Jan 10,2006 7:45pm - Nate ""]
and another
http://audiostore.ru/artist.phtml?id=15284&album=21085#1
[Jan 10,2006 8:29pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
I found it:
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Taste+Of+Silver
I bet it's case sensitive? or the search function eats a rabid dick?
Either way, I owe you an apology Carina. You're right: if it's a search function, you need not include common words like "the" "a" or "an" cause they can bog down the search time.
[Jan 10,2006 8:33pm - Nate ""]
thanks to TOC I found...
http://www.last.fm/music/Leukorrhea
[Jan 10,2006 8:58pm - Al Ravage ""]
People are going to make money off you if they can. At some point there is nothing you can do... technology occasionally gets out of control and kicks capitalism in the nuts before it is whipped back into line. Just be happy someone is willing to pay to listen to you.
[Jan 11,2006 12:52am - BornSoVile ""]
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[Jan 11,2006 8:06am - succubus ""]
you guys keep posting lastfm links but that site doesn't charge
[Jan 11,2006 8:25am - Arthur_ATD ""]
i guess im lucky my bands just starting out, we're not cool enough for russia to rip us off yet, so thats good.
[Jan 11,2006 8:26am - nate ""]
The lastfm doesn't but delit and the other .ru ones do.
[Jan 11,2006 10:43am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Did you publish your music? Russian websites might not be under the same jurisdiction as American laws regarding the copyright of music. However, if their site is hosted from a company that is, then you might be able to contact their server and get them shutdown that way or threaten to sue.
[Jan 11,2006 10:47am - hutch ""]
how much does lars look like paul mcCartney with long hair?
[Jan 11,2006 9:33pm - Dissector ""]
Hahaha yes Dissector is on one of those sites!
[Jan 11,2006 9:37pm - HungTa'Bleed ""]
In the wake of WWII we should have just gone with Gen. Patton's hunch and picked a fight with them damn Russians while we were still over there. You can never trust a Commie.