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[QUOTE="mark%20fucking%20richards:147967"]i'll agree with you on killswitch engage, but definitely not shadows fall. as far as i'm concerned, shadows fall has no "core" to them at all. i will say that at certain times you can hear a bit of hardcore influence, but i don't think it's prevalent enough to be noted as "metalcore." i believe metalcore is becoming too broad in its definition these days. when metalcore was first reaching the surface, bands like integrity, all out war, forty days rain, prayer for cleansing, overcast, etc. defined metalcore. that's before everyone hated the term and the genre itself, and also before there were so many bands labelled metalcore. each band had their own brand of metalcore, or metallic hardcore, whatever you want to call it, with some of the same formulas and overall style. nearly equal parts metal and equal parts hardcore. these days, it seems everything that cannot be easily described as metal, hardcore or grind is just tossed into the metalcore category, which is on the verge of becoming a total embarrassment to the bands lumped into the category against will. bands around now that i would say are metalcore are unearth, bleeding through, killswitch engage, caliban, etc. then you've got people calling "screamo," or "emocore" bands metalcore. there may be elements of metal and hardcore in their shit, but there's a heavy emphasis on the emo, only with screaming and yelling. anyway, i could go on forever on how i think about music as a whole in a million different ways, but i won't. back to the grind[/QUOTE]
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