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How did metal get so popular during the 80's? and why did it decline in the 90s?

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[Oct 6,2004 10:37am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
Ever see Decline Of The Western Civilization? :moe:
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[Oct 6,2004 11:15am - Christraper ""]
Its because some whiney greasy kids in Seatle decided to pick up a guitar with no prior musical knowledge and start playing shitty whiney greasy kid music. As soon as people discovered that you dont need musical talent to be in a top 40 band metal sank back to the underground.
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[Oct 6,2004 11:19am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
I was about to post something about Nirvana too
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[Oct 6,2004 11:29am - the_reverend ""]
I would blame
1) poison
2) winger
3) big hair
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[Oct 6,2004 11:31am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Poison still sells out Great Woods, so if they were too blame then they would have been the first to disapear.
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[Oct 6,2004 11:32am - the_reverend ""]
no, they pull the big-hair out of the woodwork.
remember, most clubs have a strict no big hair policy.
much like o'briens no moustache policy.
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[Oct 6,2004 11:45am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
and the chopping block's no metalcore policy? oh wait, thats my policy.
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[Oct 6,2004 11:53am - Josh_Martin ""]
Underground metal was always underground. Mainstream metal was always popular. Poison and those bands got too gay so kids moved on to Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. Then they moved on to Korn and Limp Bizkit.
Its not like Dark Angel and Celtic Frost were wicked huge in the 80's.

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[Oct 6,2004 12:28pm - th3rdknuckle ""]
Joe/NotCommon said:I was about to post something about Nirvana too


don't leave out the fact that, when grunge threatened, and Nirvana's record was huge, the one band that could have fought back and ensured metal's (real metal, not hair-metal) survival: Metallica, put out the biggest sell-out record in history and nailed the coffin closed...
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[Oct 6,2004 12:30pm - Christraper ""]
th3rdknuckle said:Joe/NotCommon said:I was about to post something about Nirvana too


don't leave out the fact that, when grunge threatened, and Nirvana's record was huge, the one band that could have fought back and ensured metal's (real metal, not hair-metal) survival: Metallica, put out the biggest sell-out record in history and nailed the coffin closed...



very true. fucking traitors
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[Oct 6,2004 12:31pm - Christraper ""]
Josh_Martin said:
Its not like Dark Angel and Celtic Frost were wicked huge in the 80's.




Celtic Frost were pretty big for awhile. Even before all that cold lake bullshit.
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[Oct 6,2004 12:32pm - MarkKevorkian ""]
Because metal turned to complete shit
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[Oct 6,2004 12:36pm - Christraper ""]
Metal never turned to complete shit. Good metal bands turned to complete shit. Metal rules and always will.

"If youre not into metal, you are not my friend! Heavy Metal!!!"
-Manowar
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[Oct 6,2004 1:37pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Christraper said:Josh_Martin said:
Its not like Dark Angel and Celtic Frost were wicked huge in the 80's.




Celtic Frost were pretty big for awhile. Even before all that cold lake bullshit.



Huh? They lost all their fans with Cold Lake.
They were a club band, just like the bigger underground bands of today.
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[Oct 6,2004 1:47pm - Christraper ""]
naw dude they played some pretty big shows. and yea they lost all their real fans with cold lake but thats what got em on MTV and shit like that.
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[Oct 6,2004 1:10pm - honor4death ""]
why do u keep asking these dumb questions...
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[Oct 6,2004 2:49pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Josh_Martin said:Christraper said:Josh_Martin said:
Its not like Dark Angel and Celtic Frost were wicked huge in the 80's.




Celtic Frost were pretty big for awhile. Even before all that cold lake bullshit.



Huh? They lost all their fans with Cold Lake.
They were a club band, just like the bigger underground bands of today.




I don't think playing the Channel = "wicked huge"
MTV did not = record sales for them


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[Oct 6,2004 3:37pm - Christraper ""]
they played concert halls which is pretty decent in my book. and yea nobody bought cold lake anyways. either way i dont care. Celtic Frost is still better than 90% of "metal" bands out today.
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[Oct 6,2004 3:40pm - Lincoln ""]
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:Ever see Decline Of The Western Civilization? :moe:


I would blame Chris Holmes for his awful portrayal of a has been rock star.......he just looked like he was a fucking mess in that movie....as soon as "the masses" saw that metal was doomed. He just looked and acted like a fuck up.
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[Oct 6,2004 3:42pm - Christraper ""]
WASP was fuckin hilarious in that movie!
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[Oct 6,2004 3:48pm - Lincoln ""]
That movie is timeless...so much hair!!!!
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[Oct 6,2004 3:50pm - swamplorddvm ""]
$$$

and 90% of americans
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[Oct 6,2004 4:21pm - th3rdknuckle ""]
QUOTE]I would blame Chris Holmes for his awful portrayal of a has been rock star.......he just looked like he was a fucking mess in that movie....as soon as "the masses" saw that metal was doomed. He just looked and acted like a fuck up.>>

chiris holmes acting like a dick is responsible for the decline in popularity of heavy metal?

yeah, if only he had stayed sober for that interview; Mastodon would be multi-millionaires, Musitaine would be President and Slipknot would have their own reality show.






anyway, 'the masses' didn't see that movie; only metalheads
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[Oct 6,2004 4:41pm - Arrik ""]
Great topic...Grunge did not kill metal,,Metal killed itself ( or went into a coma) by trying to fit into the new temporary fad

...3rd knuckle is right,,MEtallica nailed the coffin closed...Then came two more nails Megadeth and Anthrax's watered down excuses for LP's.
I feel on reason METAL was popular in the 80's was due to Black Sabbath still being a fresh example of heavy music.
There is still hope,,Techno "metal" like NiN and Ministry ect.. is fading away...and Sabbath and Priest are still going strong.
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[Oct 6,2004 5:18pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]
An 80's question: I'm looking for the video for Bathory's "One Rode To Asa Bay" Soulseek and Kazaa have proved fruitless so far and I hate using limewire for anything. Does anyone know of sites that might host the video?


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