is metal..[views:17865][posts:84]____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:13am - arilliusbm ""] Also, not sure if you guys are familiar with the German band Equilibrium, but I can't listen to them. Production is so crystal clear for their style it makes me want to puke. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:20am - blue ""] I don't know what to say, I have no interest in trying to be the dr. Phil of the metal scene. I just do what I've always done since I was a lad: enjoy listening/playing/seeing metal. I feel like all of this sewper deep conversing about what people feel couldve been replaced with some woodshedding and sharing their idea of what metal should be. Put yer guitar where yer mouth is, perhaps. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:27am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] I'd like to make a point that I find it amusing when people get offended if you don't like their band or you don't support newer acts. Personally, I don't hate any bands, and if I don't enjoy your music, I simply won't listen to it. I may have been concerned with knowing every single underground act in my early teens, which I did benefit from; for it allowed me to sift through the piles of garbage to find the true diamonds in the rough. I love doom, black metal, death metal but I don't feel the need to worship or support every band that comes out of the scene. If you're just some band playing substandard Darkthrone riffs, I'm naturally going to throw on Under a Funeral Moon and not pay attention to you. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:28am - corpus_colostomy ""] Lol |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:30am - arilliusbm ""] note to self: stop writing substandard Darkthrone riffs |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:32am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] Is that an admission of guilt? Haha. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:34am - arilliusbm ""] nah, I try not to write stuff like that. by no means am I the best guitar player or musician on this board, but I can tell a good riff from a bad one. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:35am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] Aesthetics are key. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:36am - corpus_colostomy ""] Blue without porphyria and dysentery you have no parasitic. Woodshed all u want. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:38am - darkwor ""] MikeofDecrepitude said:If you're just some band playing substandard Darkthrone riffs, I'm naturally going to throw on Under a Funeral Moon and not pay attention to you. That's usually my argument for not listening to something 'new' - ]If you're just some band playing substandard X riffs, I'm naturally going to throw on Y and not pay attention to you. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:45am - arilliusbm ""] off topic real quick: darkwor, when will you guys be ready to play out? |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:48am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] I know when I was in my teens and playing death metal, my band was collectively concerned with writing material that WE wanted to hear. I never had any aspirations about making a profit off of our music, or gaining a fanatical fan base. We mainly got booked for hardcore shows, kids moved, and death metal fans from abroad corresponded with us. For me, that simply sufficed. If people liked my band, hey, awesome! If you didn't, I certainly lost no sleep over it. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:50am - goatcatalyst ""] As is common practice at the Webster, they had a ton of locals playing on a second stage in a room off the main merch area. Between bands or during some of the more insufferable ones (I'm lookin at you, Born Of Osiris), I'd venture over to see what was going on. And just as quickly venture out. I can't think of a greater sin than encouraging mediocrity. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:51am - corpus_colostomy ""] THREAD |
| ______________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:52am - blue ""] -continues woodshedding- |
| _________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 11:56am - darkwor ""] arilliusbm said:off topic real quick: darkwor, when will you guys be ready to play out? Technically, now - we're heading Metal Thursday on July 16 and we worked out a long list of things to take care of before that, including our finished full-length which will be available at the show (and as a free download online - I'll post on RTTP as soon as it's ready). Needless to say we're all fucking psyched! |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 12:03pm - ouchdrummer ""] I agree^. I don't lose sleep over all the terrible shit that comes out, because IMHO there has been some really awesome stuff to come out in the last couple years, and I probably wouldn't have heard all of it if it wasn't trendy.... |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 12:05pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Metal is not the underground phenomenon it was in the early to mid 90's. Like what's already been mentioned, metal's production standards are more accessible to mainstream audiences. It's clean and loud. Not too many people want to hear the grittiness of metal anymore because they don't understand it. Just about everyone on this board loves the classic eras of metal and wants the current form of this genre of music to regress to the "old days". To me, metal is the only type of music where fans are the most knowledgeable, discerning and can easily tell what the poser bands are. Unfortunately, it's the poser bands who get popular because they pander to an audience looking for the hits, so to say. I too believe that the evolution of this music is done but we should just enjoy the masterpieces already given to us and not pay attention to the crappy bands. Maybe they'll die off and we'll have a resurgence in greatness. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 12:07pm - ouchdrummer ""] and i agree that most "everything" has been done.. at least stylistically...but bands doing whatever style they do really well is what matters. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 12:24pm - MikeofDecrepitude ""] MillenialKingdom said: Just about everyone on this board loves the classic eras of metal and wants the current form of this genre of music to regress to the "old days". But regression will get us nowhere. Just because a band is playing low-fi underground metal-by-numbers, doesn't mean they will surpass or even recapture the original feeling of their progenitors. Everything in life is ephemeral, not everything was meant to last, so I'll continue to enjoy what I've been exposed to over the years. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 12:30pm - MillenialKingdom ""] Well, I don't mean regression as in a simplification of the sound or quality, just to the feeling and nostalgia. I guess that's what the Thrash revival was supposed to be I guess but it's not working. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 12:40pm - ouchdrummer ""] i like a lot of the newer cleaner sounding stuff (ie. The Faceless).. which i catch shit for from my elitist friends. (ie. blue..whom i love dearly.) That doesn't mean i don't love the aforementioned "classic" metal, I do, and always will. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 12:58pm - MillenialKingdom ""] I think my only problem with the newer production standards is the sound of the drums. They don't sound like a human being plays them, just studio magic. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:02pm - RustyPS ""] MillenialKingdom said:I think my only problem with the newer production standards is the sound of the drums. They don't sound like a human being plays them, just studio magic. hello, I am drum triggers, have we met? |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:03pm - arilliusbm ""] @darkwor - awesome man. I'm gonna have to catch you guys and would like to play a show (or many) with you guys in the near future at some point @everyone else - one thing to ponder is how there is a huge difference in opinion between actual musicians and people who don't create the art, just respect it. What someone says is "good" , another can say it sucks. Also, I hold high respect for very talented musicians that can play their instruments, but I hold even higher respect for every composer that can create music. There's a difference - but sometimes people can be both. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:04pm - Eli_hhcb ""] Live triggers still sound different then snazzy studio production. You can't grid them live. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:06pm - RustyPS ""] arilliusbm said:@everyone else - one thing to ponder is how there is a huge difference in opinion between actual musicians and people who don't create the art, just respect it. What someone says is "good" , another can say it sucks. Also, I hold high respect for very talented musicians that can play their instruments, but I hold even higher respect for every composer that can create music. There's a difference - but sometimes people can be both.I wholeheartedly agree |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:30pm - MillenialKingdom ""] RustyPS said: MillenialKingdom said:I think my only problem with the newer production standards is the sound of the drums. They don't sound like a human being plays them, just studio magic. hello, I am drum triggers, have we met? I know people use triggers now but it seems like EVERY drummer these days uses triggers, especially in the studio. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:35pm - arilliusbm ""] in before ouchdrummer gives his 2 cents on what you just said |
| ________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:37pm - RustyPS ""] MillenialKingdom said: RustyPS said: MillenialKingdom said:I think my only problem with the newer production standards is the sound of the drums. They don't sound like a human being plays them, just studio magic. hello, I am drum triggers, have we met? I know people use triggers now but it seems like EVERY drummer these days uses triggers, especially in the studio. it does seem that way |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:38pm - MikeofDecrepitude ""] I tend to prefer a more organic sounding drum production, as well. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:42pm - dysvokills ""] pop rock! |
| __________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 1:48pm - narkybark ""] I heard if you say "triggers" into a mirror five times, ouchdrummer appears |
| _________________________________ [Jun 9,2009 2:09pm - metalguy ""] Both sound good |
| _______________________________________ [May 14,2012 1:41am - Arsenio Hall ""] woof |