BOYCOTT O'BRIEN'S[views:13962][posts:80]____________________________________ [Mar 3,2005 9:26pm - horror_tang ""] On behalf of It Will End In Pure Horror I wish to send our support of this boycott to Joe. Down with the man. Whitey is not going to keep us down any longer. Take 5 Whitey |
| __________________________________ [Mar 3,2005 9:27pm - Dissector ""] Blue said:Dissector said:Damn that really sucks Joe. We liked playing there too. I think I know the guy you're talking about too. Who's that punky sound guy though? He was always really really cool with us. thats perp. hes an awesome guy. one of the most supportive of the shows. hed even come to the shows he wasnt even working. I remember the day George Romero came to Boston we had a show there that night. Me and our bassist went to see Romero during the day and to the show at night. After our set he told us he couldn't see Romero because he was working all day but our set was just as good as seeing him. That was the greatest comment I've ever recieved. He was always into and was the only one I know that could get our vocal pedal to actually come out through the speakers. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 3,2005 9:59pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Obrien's should take the shamrock off of their sign and replace it with a hammer and sickle... |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 1:26am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] coldnorthernvengeance said:Obrien's should take the shamrock off of their sign and replace it with a hammer and sickle... As an Irish-American I am ashamed to be affiliated with O'Brien's Antoine Walker told me that as a Boston Celtic he too was ashamed to be affiliated with such a club. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 8:10am - Joe/NotCommon ""] The only contact I have for Great Scott's is their booking guy, Ben Sisto, who was really cool about it and stuck up for the show to his bosses, he didn't take his advice over Drew. I do have Drew's email address, who didn't listen to Shred (Obriens booking guy). Also I have Obriens main phone number. However, I am not going to post his email if people are just going to send him retarded emails threatening him or calling him dumb names because that is counter productive. Ben Sisto (booking guy from Great Scotts) ben@honeypump.net Shred (booking guy from Obriens) booking@obriensallston.com O'Brien's phone #: 617-782-6245 Alex pointed out to me Great Scotts put some anti-heavy music disclaimer on their site when they cancelled my show so I didn't bother including them in the boycott since they won't do anything heavy now. If anyone wants to put pressure on those guys to bring this up to their respective bosses then feel free, but do not make dumb threats or petty name calling emails. Ben and Shred are cool guys. Liz Snair emailed me to call her, which I won't be able to do. But apparantly some guy who works at Great Scotts had interesting things to say, probably because he heard what happened from Drew's point of view. Anyways, I am glad the scene here is standing up for itself, I was afraid this all would come across as selfish but I didn't feel that way. Sure it was shows I booked they fucked with, but they were shows I know alot of you said you were interested in going to. I like Diamond Dave's idea, I think it would be good if the metal scene really stood up for a change. People who do go to Malignancy tonight should keep bringing it up. |
| ______________________________________________________ [Mar 5,2005 2:22am - bornsovile to lazy to log in ""] i dunno. shit happens. the guy is a dick. so don't tip him! i'm not gonna let one dude ruin an entire bar for me. regardless of drew, they have the friendliest staff in the boston area. plus prophetless still books good shit. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 5,2005 2:30am - PatMeebles ""] As a 19 year old, I've technically already been boycotting O'Briens, and I am not losing anything by continuing said boycott. With that out of the way, Joe, I'm 100% behind you on this! DAMN THE MAN!!!!! |
| _______________________________ [Mar 5,2005 2:53am - XmikeX ""] as someone who never once went to this place, and never had any plans of going, I fully back this boycott. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 9:39pm - Niccolai ""] XmikeX said:as someone who never once went to this place, and never had any plans of going, I fully back this boycott. I'll second that notion. |
| _____________________________ [Mar 6,2005 9:42pm - blue ""] from what i heard about the turnout at the malignancy show, the boycott is already in full effect. i guess thats what happens when obriens tries to fuck with one of their only sources of income. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 11:21pm - BornSoVile ""] the turnout was fine at malignancy. it so happened that everyone in the world went to skinless/dehumanized and i don't blame them, i wanted to go to. personally i'm not gonna give up on the venue. dee dee's is cool but it's harder to get too and sound, staff, and those fucking tvs crap on the atmosphere. might as well bite the bullet and play their game for a bit. normally i'm 100% behind boycotts but there is more to this. i wish i was at the disengaged show so i coulda seen what happened. Joe, i was at sitting there at the bar on friday and drew went off on you to joann. more than anything he's ripshit about the window and the fact it costs $800 to repair. he said people were being assholes to the staff all night and were rowdier than usual. his main beef with you is that he felt you should have shown some leadership and at least attempted to calm people down or whatever. i don't know i wasn't there so i don't know what was happening. i think in a case like this you need to be the bigger man, call him up and talk face to face and try to work something out. It's unfair to sabotage other promoters work as well as an entire venue/scene for bands from a single bad night. i agree that they have gone down hill in the past few months and the place has never been the same since Gabe left but this is no reason to walk away from years of work only to shoot everyones foot with very little options left to go to. *disclaimer* i'm not trying to undermine, pit, start shit or make Joe look bad. like I said I enjoy this club and I think it would be a shame if everyone turned their back on it largely do to a somewhat sensastionist mentality. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 11:37pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] haha yeah joe should have calmed people down. the only one who was out of line was the manager. Joe should have calmed him down and told him not to attack the crowd and then kick everyone out. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 11:40pm - BornSoVile ""] i guess so. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 2:08am - phantos ""] what really sucks is... a city the size of Boston only has 3 venues that allow metal. wtf? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 2:20am - th3rdknuckle ""] The Channel The Rat Axis Celebration Bunratty's/186 The Paradise The Linwood wtf happened? |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 5:54am - Joe/NotCommon ""] $800? That's funny because they told me $150 on the phone. Also, I got punched in the face trying to calm people down, and spent over an hour on the phone talking to Shred to straighten everything out, which I had done but Drew decided to ignore Shred and start more shit anyway. I don't know what else you expect me to do Josh, since I had agreed to pay for the window, and did make a call. I also called some guy at Great Scotts who said he was going to call me back and never did. EDIT: If Drew is right about what happened at the show, why does he still have to try to convince the rest of the staff 2 weeks later? |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 5:59am - Joe/NotCommon ""] th3rdknuckle said:The Channel The Rat Axis Celebration Bunratty's/186 The Paradise The Linwood wtf happened? The Linwood will be re-opening and I know I can probably get shows there, plus with the right tour package I think I can get the Paradise as well. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 8:16am - Bradness ""] BornSoVile said: i wish i was at the disengaged show so i coulda seen what happened. you would be as pissed as Joe if you heard what Drew says below if you were there BornSoVile said: he said people were being assholes to the staff all night and were rowdier than usual. his main beef with you is that he felt you should have shown some leadership and at least attempted to calm people down or whatever. i don't know i wasn't there so i don't know what was happening. i think in a case like this you need to be the bigger man, call him up and talk face to face and try to work something out. that's all crap. I've been to obriens a million times and that night was no different, and i was completely sober. Joe did try calming people down, it was Drew who got all tuff and started pushing. He has Napoleon syndrome and needs to be destroyed. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 9:02am - anonymous ""] joe has done a lot for the metal scene.. if the venue decides not to have metal shows, everyone pays for it in the end. joe doesn\'t drink and is not a violent person, he\'s also smart and wouldn\'t do anything to fuck up his relationships with people. He\'s been putting on shows for a long time...look at how many shows he\'s set up and all the different venues. Now someone canceled his show and blamed him for people getting rowdy? fuck that i\'m going to support joe |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 9:03am - anonymous ""] that was me ~carina |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 9:46am - WhyamIandasshole ""] The Channel- Close The Rat-condemned Axis-hasent done a metal show in god know how long Celebration-??? Bunratty's/186-closed The Paradise-Hasent done a metal show in years The Linwood-stopped doing shows Yup. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 10:26am - th3rdknuckle ""] i know... was just saying that Boston has changed a lot in a short time. in the eighties, all of those clubs had metal every week, sometimes multiple nights a week. I know what happened, watched it happen; i was just wondring (rhetorically) WHY? Celebration was site of the origin of 1st ever 'Metal Scene' in Boston. the wednesday night metal shows , in conjunction with WERS's Nasty Habits started it all. It was part of the Kenmore Club in Kenmore square. It's currently a Gap. (puke) |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 10:36am - th3rdknuckle ""] 1st ever Boston shows for: Metal Church Exodus Tank Nuclear Assault Fates Warning Talas ...all took place at Celebration |
| __________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 10:36am - litacore ""] have any of you heard about this happening in other major cities? are we all going to have to rent VFW halls in 2010? I was really forlorn when the Channel closed. I saw some of the best thrash shows there. I didn't move to Boston until '89, so I never saw anything at Celebration was that the same building as what became Narcissus? |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 10:38am - the_reverend ""] th3rdknuckle said:Celebration was site of the origin of 1st ever 'Metal Scene' in Boston. the wednesday night metal shows , in conjunction with WERS's Nasty Habits started it all. It was part of the Kenmore Club in Kenmore square. It's currently a Gap. (puke) damn, I need to go there and buy some affordable priced jeans. ps: boycott joenc! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 10:43am - WhyamIandasshole ""] I know you know. I'm just board. It does suck though. We're scrounging these days. and the Middle East wont even do metal on the weekends. Whatever though. Everything comes in cycles. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 10:43am - th3rdknuckle ""] litacore said:was that the same building as what became Narcissus? the Kenmore Club was really 3 clubs: Narcissus, Celebration, and Lipstick. Metal night was at Celebration on Wednesdays nights; and when it was a big show they had it upstairs at Narcissus and used Lipstick (a small dance club) as the dressing room |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 2:29pm - BornSoVile ""] Joe/NotCommon said:$800? That's funny because they told me $150 on the phone. Also, I got punched in the face trying to calm people down, and spent over an hour on the phone talking to Shred to straighten everything out, which I had done but Drew decided to ignore Shred and start more shit anyway. I don't know what else you expect me to do Josh, since I had agreed to pay for the window, and did make a call. I also called some guy at Great Scotts who said he was going to call me back and never did. EDIT: If Drew is right about what happened at the show, why does he still have to try to convince the rest of the staff 2 weeks later? okay. I'm glad I got to hear some more details from you. I'll be at Superchrist regardless. I'm not going to give up on Bostons' Dead however. Boycotting a once a month show won't do shit and is pointless but getting the word out to everyone about this bullshit will prevent more business being booked there in the near future. I hope to hell there will be at least one other venue around by the end of the spring. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 4:01pm - BestialOnslaught ""] I don't blame Joe for boycotting... It'd be one thing if he had gotten banned from booking, but when Drew reached out to fuck with his other shows, that was just fucked. That said, everyone go next Tuesday the 15th! Hopefully Drew won't be working. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 5:21pm - pessimist ""] and if he is, i will continue my boycott of tipping him... |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 5:47pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] I think my boycott might be coming to an end...more news soon |