hip PILGRIM: Rhode Island Doom Trio Premiere New Song onnew hip site Brooklyn Vegan[views:25336][posts:77]_____________________________ [Feb 1,2012 3:34pm - Lamp ""] frankovhell said:Its funny how all you hipstetrs that listen to anything remotely "doom" sounding in PVD suddenly hate a band cause they call you out on your pretentious bullshit. LOL fuck providence. Last good show was 6 years ago there. Exactly what's pretentious about what goes on in Providence? The warehouse shows do get promoted well, people are just told to not post addresses publicly. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 1,2012 3:41pm - BSV ""] CHEERS to PILGRIM. This band crushes. I know like half of them go to school in NYC. Good to see a band speak their mind....how is he not right? |
| _____________________________ [Feb 1,2012 4:13pm - Lamp ""] BSV said:Good to see a band speak their mind....how is he not right? -Nobody knows who this band is and they're bashing shows that they've apparently never been to -They are holding a scene they were not old enough to be a part of in high regard saying it's "better" than what's going on today (which is pretty much the pinnacle of pretentiousness in itself) So that's how they're wrong. Apparently this band is from Newport. I'm just gonna blame this whole thing on Dwyer and call it a day. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 1,2012 4:30pm - Lamp ""] Also, apparently Pilgrim was actually booked to play a warehouse show not that long ago and canceled three days before because they had gotten signed to Metal Blade and were asked to play a show with more "prestige" in NYC, so it's pretty clear these guys will shit on whoever they have to so they can be "on top". Fuck this band. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 1,2012 4:37pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] This is like that time I was in a derivative doom band. [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 1,2012 4:41pm - anonymous ""] This band is hipster doom. They sound nothing like Skepticism. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 1,2012 4:41pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] BSV said:CHEERS to PILGRIM. This band crushes. I know like half of them go to school in NYC. Good to see a band speak their mind....how is he not right? I'd say "don't shit where you eat"... but I'm the last one to tell this dude anything about eating, obviously. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 1,2012 11:18pm - josh_hates_you ""] josh_hates_you said:e-mail sent about booking them in providence. let's see if they respond. The answer was no. Not because providence sucks, but because of tours. Maybe later if things change. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 1,2012 11:49pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] josh_hates_you said: josh_hates_you said:e-mail sent about booking them in providence. let's see if they respond. The answer was no. Not because Quahog sucks, but because they're going to LA to visit Brian Griffin. Maybe later if Brian finds his life as an adult film screenwriter unfulfilling. |
| _______________________________________________ [Feb 2,2012 12:59pm - troll feature search ""] #1 hit for "pilgrim pizza doom" |
| _____________________________ [Feb 2,2012 1:15pm - Yeti ""] xmikex said:[img] you are one ugly motherfucker. [img] |
| ______________________________ [Feb 2,2012 8:17pm - tylor ""] Lamp said: BSV said:Good to see a band speak their mind....how is he not right? -Nobody knows who this band is and they're bashing shows that they've apparently never been to -They are holding a scene they were not old enough to be a part of in high regard saying it's "better" than what's going on today (which is pretty much the pinnacle of pretentiousness in itself) So that's how they're wrong. Apparently this band is from Newport. I'm just gonna blame this whole thing on Dwyer and call it a day. Wtf? I don't think I've ever seen any of those kids out... hooray for not socializing. Also, that is some silly cover art. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 2,2012 9:22pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] ^ Guessing their moms got wind of all the ne'er-do-wells hanging around and wouldn't drop them off. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 3,2012 8:47am - BSV ""] pretty sure Jon is from N. Kingstown and the drummer is from Warwick, not sure about the bass. -Nobody knows who this band is and they're bashing shows that they've apparently never been to -They are holding a scene they were not old enough to be a part of in high regard saying it's "better" than what's going on today (which is pretty much the pinnacle of pretentiousness in itself) I don't think they're terribly wrong by suggesting that the pvd scene is largely fairly secret and has lots of warehouse shows that are nearly impossible to get on if you don't know the right people. I don't think they're wrong or pretentious by suggesting that old days are better than the modern times (who doesn't do that? and doesn't saying this era is better than that era the height of pretentiousness YET it's something old fucks have been doing for years). I havn't had time to read the interview, just curious what everyone is so enraged about. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 4,2012 12:45am - BSV ""] just read the interview. I find it interesting the amount of fat hate on a vegan site, go figure, good to see those nazis are keeping it real these days, keep living the dream and fighting the good fight! PURE SOLDIERS. sooo, why are you guys all butt hurt about the interivew? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 2:16am - LucidCurse ""] lets just talk about lord vicar |
| _____________________________ [Feb 4,2012 6:37am - Lamp ""] BSV said:and doesn't saying this era is better than that era the height of pretentiousness YET it's something old fucks have been doing for years I tend to not take the opinions of people seriously who insist the old days were better than what's going on now. Typically the people who have been around a long time I've known won't say anything about which eras were better than what necessarily as much as what's simply different about the time periods and saying what things were better than and what's better now. Anyone who isn't jaded is capable of giving an objective analysis and it's pretty much a fact that all scenes go through their ups and downs. I agree that Providence was in a lull for a while, but to say there's nothing going on now is completely preposterous, especially with how many new bands there have been popping up in the last couple years and are kicking my ass. I feel like the city is starting to get back "there" again and in a way I care more about. The artsy scene is pretty whatever to me and I did have fun seeing those bands live to me, but I'm excited that there's been an influx lately of hardcore (both punk and not so punk, a mixed bag for people to choose from) and black metal and various other odd bands to keep things interesting. So basically, to make a blanket statement saying the scenes are "pretentious hipster singer/songwriter music" in "super secret tucked away warehouses" (many of these shows get flyered and talked about on the Internet and the only rule is to just not post an address in a public location for very obvious reasons, and people are not pretentious about it at all when you ask them in a private setting, they are more than happy to include anyone in their fun who takes the initiative to seek it out) is pretty fucking stupid and proof to me that these guys are simply not on the ball and not paying attention. Also, I'm from North Kingstown myself and I don't sound like that. There are plenty of people from suburbia who have positive things to say about the scene and understand the protocol, just show up, have a good time, don't be a dick to people outright for no reason, and you'll eventually start to know people. Considering nobody in this band has even really been seen at any shows whatsoever by anyone who goes to Providence shows on a regular basis... it has been said already in the thread, these guys have not paid their dues and are firing bullets, and once the public at large gets bored of them (when you sign to major labels and try to get on "big" tours based around that, that's when you're REALLY catering to hipsters), they're going to find themselves having a tough time getting any sort of shows because people will not forget the harsh words, myself included. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 4,2012 6:52am - Lamp ""] And one last point I forgot to address in the realm of TL;DR... The simple fact of the matter is that these kids are not qualified to say that the old scene was better than what's going on now because they weren't there. I was on the tail end of it myself and I wouldn't be the best judge. I can sit here and say "I completely respect what Fort Thunder was doing back in the 90s" and it can ring 100% true, but it would be impossible for me to say that the scene now is a mere shadow of what it was then, because the fact of the matter is that I wasn't there and I can't ever know. I don't buy into the rosy eyed mentality that just because something's already been documented it's better and the more I stick around, the more I wonder what people just getting into the scene now would have to say about stuff I saw maybe 6-7 years ago, that is if anyone even cares (probably not). |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 11:00am - DestroyYouAlot ""] super secret = couldn't be bothered to dig a bit, this is harder than downloading off iTunes KAZAA GENERATION SELLOUT |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 11:09am - josh_hates_you ""] super secret shows suck and are full of pretentious hipsters. do not support. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 11:21am - xmikex ""] all moot points. robin pulled excalibur out of a thousand year old stone and slayed the idea of DIY shows months ago. RIP. |
| ______________________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 11:23am - Pilgrim METAL BLADE ""] You guys just wish you were going to Denmark like us. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 11:28am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Pilgrim%20METAL%20BLADE said:You guys just wish you were going to Denmark like us. If you stay there, it'll be a fair trade (they still owe us for sending Lars Ulrich over). |
| ______________________________ [Feb 4,2012 12:06pm - ark ""] win? win. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 12:28pm - Czarnobog ""] Lamp said:I can sit here and say "I completely respect what Fort Thunder was doing back in the 90s" and it can ring 100% true, but it would be impossible for me to say that the scene now is a mere shadow of what it was then, because the fact of the matter is that I wasn't there and I can't ever know. meh. i lived in providence in the early-mid '90s and thought fort thunder was a total rich kid/art school brat scene and hated all their gimmicky noise bands. |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 12:32pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Only porn with the f-zero gx soundtrack as backing music is real [img] |
| ______________________________ [Feb 4,2012 2:24pm - yummy ""] I'm not so sure I really disagree with most of what they said. except for the "providence should be nuked" part. There is some truth to what they're saying. However, if you wanted to get away from greedy promoters and pretentious hipsters I don't think playing doom and being signed to metal blade takes care of that. I happen to like the warehouse shows. But, there have been a few times where I'd bring a friend who is out of their element, meaning they don't like most heavy music, and don't know anybody there that have been treated as outsiders. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Feb 4,2012 3:25pm - The Horror of Rich Horror ""] Lamp said: BSV said:and doesn't saying this era is better than that era the height of pretentiousness YET it's something old fucks have been doing for years I tend to not take the opinions of people seriously who insist the old days were better than what's going on now. Typically the people who have been around a long time I've known won't say anything about which eras were better than what necessarily as much as what's simply different about the time periods and saying what things were better than and what's better now. Anyone who isn't jaded is capable of giving an objective analysis and it's pretty much a fact that all scenes go through their ups and downs. I agree that Providence was in a lull for a while, but to say there's nothing going on now is completely preposterous, especially with how many new bands there have been popping up in the last couple years and are kicking my ass. I feel like the city is starting to get back "there" again and in a way I care more about. The artsy scene is pretty whatever to me and I did have fun seeing those bands live to me, but I'm excited that there's been an influx lately of hardcore (both punk and not so punk, a mixed bag for people to choose from) and black metal and various other odd bands to keep things interesting. So basically, to make a blanket statement saying the scenes are "pretentious hipster singer/songwriter music" in "super secret tucked away warehouses" (many of these shows get flyered and talked about on the Internet and the only rule is to just not post an address in a public location for very obvious reasons, and people are not pretentious about it at all when you ask them in a private setting, they are more than happy to include anyone in their fun who takes the initiative to seek it out) is pretty fucking stupid and proof to me that these guys are simply not on the ball and not paying attention. Also, I'm from North Kingstown myself and I don't sound like that. There are plenty of people from suburbia who have positive things to say about the scene and understand the protocol, just show up, have a good time, don't be a dick to people outright for no reason, and you'll eventually start to know people. Considering nobody in this band has even really been seen at any shows whatsoever by anyone who goes to Providence shows on a regular basis... it has been said already in the thread, these guys have not paid their dues and are firing bullets, and once the public at large gets bored of them (when you sign to major labels and try to get on "big" tours based around that, that's when you're REALLY catering to hipsters), they're going to find themselves having a tough time getting any sort of shows because people will not forget the harsh words, myself included. cool story bro |