Black Metal attacks again!!![views:13357][posts:69]_________________________________ [Oct 21,2004 10:29pm - retzam ""] hahaha |
| __________________________________ [Oct 21,2004 11:15pm - Dymitry ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:Dymitry(and this applies to all "True" BMers) for all your anti-poser, anti-humor, anti-personality, anti-"normal" ranting you are the biggest posers I know. You are so obsessed with proving yourself to be worthy of the "truest/cool" kids in the BM scene that you go online and track down exponentially obscure bands. Why? Because you are afraid. You are insecure. I "track down exponentially obscure bands" because that is how people with a genuine interest in the music find things to listen to. If you are too lazy to do the same, so be it, but try not to act jealous of those who actually make an effort to listen to a wide number of bands, instead of whatever "black metal" Century Media/Nuclear Blast spoonfeed teenagers with. You do not have to like my attitude at all, but criticizing someone for listening to obscure bands within a genre that is underground to begin with, is silly. BobNOMAAMRooney said:You worry that someone might say, "that kid isn't true, last year he thought CoF was true" and all your scene friendships would crumble. So you drive on and on in your search for bands that will make you respected as an "individual" in the scene, with little regard for the musical content of these bands. As a matter of fact, I have come across a number of very rare recordings that I did not like, although you would have no way of knowing from my posts. BobNOMAAMRooney said:Enough Latin in the titles, and "haunting/droning" interludes and you'll think it is something brilliant. And then you'll turn around and insult bands "released on Moonfog" when your latest "grimmest band ever" is just ripping off Darkthrone's first few albums. So you think bands like Disiplin, Khold and new Dodheimsgard are the epitome of Black Metal, and Satyr is the sort of label owner that deserves support ( so he can "make Black Metal as big as Limp Bizkit" )? And while I am not fond of most Darkthrone styled bands, you do realize that Darkthrone did not sign to Moonfog until after their "first few albums" were released? BobNOMAAMRooney said:Have your actions caused a societal shift toward paganism? Since I am a religious devil worshipper and could care less about such a thing, no. If you actually looked at the interviews I posted links to, you could probably gather that I care nothing for "viking" circus music posing as Black Metal. Of course, jumping to conclusions is easier for you. BobNOMAAMRooney said:I'm happy with who I am and therefore I'm cooler than you, I'm grimmer than you, and most importantly I gain more from life. And Iguess the only way to change all that is to impress me by hanging yourself in your Antechamber of Ravendark Twinsun Frostmoon Glacial Depravity (Mom and dad's bathroom.) My, how very original, perhaps you can join Impaled Northern Moonforest now. Alternately, you could come to the realization that true Black Metal has nothing to do with clowns like Immortal. Or, you could run along and find a place where you can engage in scintillating discussion along the lines of "d00d Emperor r so kewl but all these elitests get annoyed with me talking about them and Satyricon over and over!! omg taht is liek so mean!!!11", as such "insecure" individuals as myself are not worthy of your time. |
| ____________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 2:26am - Todd(bombshelter) ""] Man, I am glad i am old enough to realize i don't have to be part of any "scene" and that i don't base my musical taste on what others will think of me if i listen to a certain band. who cares what is "true or cult". Music is music and to each his own. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 2:28am - powerkok ""] wowweeee.... kiddies these days. Todd, remember when Mayhem was still alive? haha half these kids werent even born. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 2:32am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Dymitry said: YOU ONLY LISTEN TO BANDS ON CENTURY MEDIA, I WORSHIP THE DEVIL (+4 scene points for you) I'M MORE SCENE THAN YOU, I REALLY HOPE THIS FASCADE OF GRIMNESS ISN'T CRUMBLING, LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF A MISANTHROPE I AM, PLEASE ACCEPT ME FOR THIS Thank you for solidifying my view that you and your ilk are indeed the biggest posers in music. Look, Emperor and Satryicon were great bands for their time. Your bashing them is just another instance of you attempting to prove how grim you are by placing your tastes above them. You're like a kid in middle school who shouts things like, "Shakespeare's not a good writer!" in the middle of English class for attention. Simply put, without the "Century Media/Nuclear Blast/Peaceville" bands you now claim to hate for your image purposes your darling band of the week, which I'm sure you love for musical reasons, would not exist in its present form. Deathspell Omega, please, they're probably the most mentioned "TOTALLY UNDERGROUND BAND THAT NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT BUT ME!" And going by your logic you should have hated them by last week. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 2:36am - powerkok ""] I heaRD that Perpetual Winter are black metal...and their first show is this halloween in Keene....anyone ever heard them? Were playing with em, but Im not a good black metal judge. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 3:35am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Dymitry said: As a matter of fact, I have come across a number of very rare recordings that I did not like, although you would have no way of knowing from my posts. How rare are we talking here, only 3 cassettes and a single 7" picture disc? You must have felt like a fucking tool for paying so much or trading so much for something you heard was "true", for something you thought would make you hipper than others. Using "recordings" suggests that you are projecting the image of a sophisticated and cultured individual when you're really a socially inept imbecile. Congratulations, you're at the forefront of a scene that allows the inferior to look upon their betters and say, "They just don't have an appreciation for fine audio recordings! Nietzsche quote about power! United in Misanthropy!" You can read off a laundy list of all the very rare recordings you own, how many weapons you've collected, how many brandy snifters you own, the many backpatches you own from bands you think I've never heard of, or any other bullshit that gives you a sense of purpose in life. But those are all material items that cannot show a person's true nature. Considering how you define yourself by these material items one can assume that you are an empty man, spiritually and mentally dead. Your only mention of internal life is passing, vague, and somewhat external. You call yourself "a religious devil worshiper" even in worship you look upon the better and spout off some inane babble about a will to power when the object of your worship is a crippled shell of his former glory. You define yourself by what you own and what you oppose in the material world. You will live a sad pathetic life, you will be miserable while convincing yourself that there is joy in misery, and then you will be forgotten. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 8:32am - guest_Falcifer ""] Falcifer said:retzam said:hahahaha That is sad, because I really can't figure out if it was someone on here just joking around or if it is some imbecile from the helvete board. Good generalization asshole. So everyone who posts on the ‘helvete’ board is stupid or a nazi or a racist because of one person’s opinion? Its people like you that make me wonder why I try to do anything… you know what FUCK YOU! We try to do good by the way of metal which is a sub-culture… we try to set up a place where people can go out and listen to music of our tastes with people of like mind and all we get especially on this board is shit… you all scream ‘ugh there is no metal anywhere around here’ but yet don’t support (except for a few of you). So to the powers that be erase my username and what not, I want no part of this “scene” anymore! I apologize. I knee jerked and for that I am sorry. I just get crazy when I even smell even a hint of a generalization. I have dealt with it my whole life (as I am sure others here have as well). I am old and should have known better. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 9:41am - Christraper ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:How rare are we talking here, only 3 cassettes and a single 7" picture disc? You must have felt like a fucking tool for paying so much or trading so much for something you heard was "true", for something you thought would make you hipper than others. Using "recordings" suggests that you are projecting the image of a sophisticated and cultured individual when you're really a socially inept imbecile. Congratulations, you're at the forefront of a scene that allows the inferior to look upon their betters and say, "They just don't have an appreciation for fine audio recordings! Nietzsche quote about power! United in Misanthropy!" You can read off a laundy list of all the very rare recordings you own, how many weapons you've collected, how many brandy snifters you own, the many backpatches you own from bands you think I've never heard of, or any other bullshit that gives you a sense of purpose in life. But those are all material items that cannot show a person's true nature. Considering how you define yourself by these material items one can assume that you are an empty man, spiritually and mentally dead. Your only mention of internal life is passing, vague, and somewhat external. You call yourself "a religious devil worshiper" even in worship you look upon the better and spout off some inane babble about a will to power when the object of your worship is a crippled shell of his former glory. You define yourself by what you own and what you oppose in the material world. You will live a sad pathetic life, you will be miserable while convincing yourself that there is joy in misery, and then you will be forgotten. Dude theres people like that in every scene. I think its stupid too but its not just in BM. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 11:17am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Christraper said: Dude theres people like that in every scene. I think its stupid too but its not just in BM. I know I said the same thing earlier and I'm sure the people who attend Helvete are all nice guys. In fact I've wanted to attend since I read about it earlier this year in the Weekly Dig but I usually work late on Mondays. It's just foolish when someone who doesn't even know me decides to prove how true they are by making what they think are personal attacks because of a general statement on my behalf. Chalk this one up to Dymitry missing my original point entirely and then going over the top with his response because he truly is the grimmest of all the forestlords. I think it's clear to everyone that if Dymitry actually enjoyed the music he listens to, rather than seeing it as an acessory or collectable, he would welcome people he considers "Century Media/Nuclear Blast and Moonfog teenagers" into his scene. They will eventually support "his" bands giving them an incentive to tour and release new material. But all that would ruin it for him because he doesn't love black metal he loves its obscurity. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 2:50pm - retzam ""] guest_Falcifer said:Falcifer said:retzam said:hahahaha That is sad, because I really can't figure out if it was someone on here just joking around or if it is some imbecile from the helvete board. Good generalization asshole. So everyone who posts on the ‘helvete’ board is stupid or a nazi or a racist because of one person’s opinion? Its people like you that make me wonder why I try to do anything… you know what FUCK YOU! We try to do good by the way of metal which is a sub-culture… we try to set up a place where people can go out and listen to music of our tastes with people of like mind and all we get especially on this board is shit… you all scream ‘ugh there is no metal anywhere around here’ but yet don’t support (except for a few of you). So to the powers that be erase my username and what not, I want no part of this “scene” anymore! I apologize. I knee jerked and for that I am sorry. I just get crazy when I even smell even a hint of a generalization. I have dealt with it my whole life (as I am sure others here have as well). I am old and should have known better. I understand man, no problem. I started this shit anyway by posting something on helvete that was obviously going to offend or piss off 95% of the members of that board, which was really immature of me. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 5:14pm - Dymitry ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:I think it's clear to everyone that if Dymitry actually enjoyed the music he listens to, rather than seeing it as an acessory or collectable, he would welcome people he considers "Century Media/Nuclear Blast and Moonfog teenagers" into his scene. They will eventually support "his" bands giving them an incentive to tour and release new material. But all that would ruin it for him because he doesn't love black metal he loves its obscurity. I believe it is quite clear to everyone that you get a thrill out of arguing for its own sake ( see all the really redundant posts you directed towards me, two of which were an hour apart ). This must be entertaining for you, since so far you have only suceeded at sounding like an atheist who tries to justify listening to rockstar pseudo-"black metal" bands. The post on "recordings" was quite amusing as anyone can buy three new limited-to-100/200-copies demo tapes for the price of the new Darktoilet CD. There are also such things as tape trading, and more recently, file sharing networks. While I do like having original tape copies, the issue was that anyone dedicated to Black Metal will make an effort to hear underground recordings and appreciate those that are worthwhile, not listen to the same 4-5 commercial circus acts from norGAY over and over. My point was that most "Century Media/Nuclear Blast and Moonfog teenagers", will not support the bands I listen to, because they will never make the effort to hear them ( oh, but I am wrong, soon every Dimmu Borgir fan will be listening to Dark Opus and Valonsurma, right ). I have come across people who discovered Black Metal less than one year ago and listened to Bekhira or Sargeist, I have encountered a sixteen year old who had many rehearsals of bands I never heard of, and a few other such examples. Did they sit around message boards and chat rooms whining about "elitism"? No, they were dedicated enough to the music, to always be looking out for new material. Last of all, I have never read Nietzsche and therefore have no idea what the "will to power" comment was about, so you can feel smug that you are more familiar with trendy philosophers than I am. I will however finish my last post on this board with a quote that is perfectly suited to this topic: We don't want to be a part of this "underground solidarity" where hardcore/life metal bullshit and Black Metal cohabit in peace. The only fraternity I can concieve is between True Evil Ones, and that doesn't mean to have only a Satanic image. Of course a Black Metal band must be dreaded and hated by common people but it goes beyond the appearance. Too much falses show a Dark image of themselves and are in fact normal guys enjoying life and living happy...What a joke! The result is that we're hated by this kind of worms because we are at a state they'll never reach. - Meyna'ch of Mütiilation. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 5:38pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Dymitry has been doing one hell of a trolling job keeping up this character since like 2000 or 2001, from the Metal Maniacs Board to Full Moon and now here. Brilliant. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 6:21pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Dymitry said:We don't want to be a part of this "underground solidarity" where hardcore/life metal bullshit and Black Metal cohabit in peace. The only fraternity I can concieve is between True Evil Ones, and that doesn't mean to have only a Satanic image. Of course a Black Metal band must be dreaded and hated by common people but it goes beyond the appearance. Too much falses show a Dark image of themselves and are in fact normal guys enjoying life and living happy...What a joke! The result is that we're hated by this kind of worms because we are at a state they'll never reach. - Meyna'ch of Mütiilation. BobNOMAAMRooney has already said:Dymitry(and this applies to all "True" BMers) for all your anti-poser, anti-humor, anti-personality, anti-"normal" ranting you are the biggest posers I know. You are so obsessed with proving yourself to be worthy of the "truest/cool" kids in the BM scene And once again you prove me correct. Walking away from an arguement shows true EVIL on your part, you're too much of a fucking pussy to admit that your were wrong. So you retreat just like the one you worship did in the face of an allmighty God. Bullshit on loving black metal, you love your posessions. |
| _________________________________________ [Oct 22,2004 6:27pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Crunch time, douchebag. Do you renege on your word to leave this trendy messageboard forever and look like a fool. Or do you remain a fucking pussy. |
| ____________________________________________ [Oct 23,2004 8:37pm - Todd(bombshelter) ""] powerkok said:wowweeee.... kiddies these days. Todd, remember when Mayhem was still alive? haha half these kids werent even born. :doublehorns: Yea,they were awesome then..:satancross:,when they came out it was just about the music,now you got all these BM "kids" fighting over nothing. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 23,2004 9:25pm - retzam ""] You mean at one point musician's were all about music?? That seems so, strange... |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 23,2004 9:32pm - the_reverend ""] RustedAngel said:blah blah blah, what a gay fuckin thread. [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 29,2005 11:14am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] LOLZ |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 29,2005 11:15am - RustedAngel ""] IF IT'S NOT BLOODAXE, IT SUCKS. |