Well written and correct blog about how Megadeth is better than Metallica[views:12144][posts:66]_______________________________________________ [May 21,2010 8:12pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] http://domlawsonlikesheavymetalmorethanyou...deth-are-better-than-metallica.html http://domlawsonlikesheavymetalmorethanyou...deth-are-better-than-metallica.html |
| ______________________________________ [May 21,2010 8:21pm - ThorgWantEat ""] They are better probably because they eat pizza before and during their recording sessions. |
| ___________________________________________________________ [May 21,2010 9:12pm - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] I absolutely agree with this. Except your link didn't work, so I had to google it. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...=AFQjCNHA5rmYHzaAY9BPOKsp3fE-ntkngA |
| _______________________________________________ [May 21,2010 9:44pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] FREAKING NULL thanks Arrow |
| ___________________________________ [May 21,2010 9:53pm - Lich_King ""] Bullshyit. I absolutely don't understand what the Megadeth people hear in that stuff. It's not bad, but it's not close to competing. People that like Mechanix over The Four Horsemen are like those people that castrate themselves on the internet, I have no idea what their values are. |
| _______________________________________________ [May 21,2010 9:59pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] well, I do Like the Four Horsemen lyrically more than Mechanix, but Megadeth's version is much more ferocious Imagine this Hetfield on rythm and vocals Mustaine on lead guitar and vocals Cliff Burton bass Gar Samuelson drums THE ULTIMATE BAND!!! |
| _______________________________________ [May 21,2010 10:05pm - the_reverend ""] http://domlawsonlikesheavymetalmorethanyou...deth-are-better-than-metallica.html |
| _________________________________ [May 21,2010 11:19pm - Kevord ""] Everything that blog says is true. Megadeth only really has one terrible album risk. Metallica hasn't made anything even close to good in over 20 years. |
| _________________________________________ [May 22,2010 12:52am - DestroyYouAlot ""] bennyhillifier I'll just leave this here... |
| ________________________________________ [May 22,2010 1:15am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alongside this: bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________ [May 22,2010 10:15am - pam ""] Does anyone actually think otherwise? |
| ___________________________________ [May 22,2010 12:54pm - ShadowSD ""] Lich_King said:Bullshyit. I absolutely don't understand what the Megadeth people hear in that stuff. It's not bad, but it's not close to competing. People that like Mechanix over The Four Horsemen are like those people that castrate themselves on the internet, I have no idea what their values are. Right. No one can argue Mechanix is better than Horsemen, Metallica was one step ahead on dynamics and consistent songwriting every step of the way for the first decade or so, although Megadeth was right behind them. But the other side of the argument, as has been pointed out, Megadeth only did one shit album (Risk), then changed their minds. Metallica decided to make a career out of it starting with Load. If I had to the opportunity to see Megadeth or Metallica live right now, there's no question I'd pick Megadeth, as would anyone else with working eardrums. But I also think the first five Metallica albums are unbeatable and probably won't ever be topped. So it really depends on how one asks the question. |
| _________________________________ [May 22,2010 1:31pm - reimroc ""] i love metallica but really megadeth as a whole package is better. |
| ___________________________________________________________ [May 22,2010 2:02pm - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] Comparing Mechanix and Horsemen is pretty strong evidence arguing in favor of Megadeth, since whichever you prefer they're still BOTH MUSTAINE SONGS. Now how about we compare Phantom Lord or No Remorse to Mechanix/Horsemen? Exactly. |
| ______________________________________ [May 22,2010 2:16pm - SkinSandwich ""] I love whores. |
| __________________________________ [May 22,2010 6:21pm - ShadowSD ""] ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said:Comparing Mechanix and Horsemen is pretty strong evidence arguing in favor of Megadeth, since whichever you prefer they're still BOTH MUSTAINE SONGS. Now how about we compare Phantom Lord or No Remorse to Mechanix/Horsemen? Exactly. Good point. But at the same time, a side by side comparison of Kill Em' All or Killing Is My Business, whether in terms of tightness of the heavy riffs or in terms of dynamics in having more softer and melodic parts mixed in, is pretty clear cut. To some extent though, it wasn't an even fight between the bands for the first several albums, in the sense that it wasn't Mustaine vs. Hetfield in terms of the melody and riff writing but rather it was often Mustaine vs. Hetfeld AND Burton AND sometimes Hammett as well. Burton's influence on not only the songs he co-wrote to but the way he influenced Hetfield's own songwriting when it comes to melody and harmony was its own major contribution. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 22,2010 7:13pm - Woah!_Shut_It_Down! ""] Metallica is quite a ways better than Megadeth in my opinion. MEgadeth does have great songs, yes, but they are fewer in quantity to those of MEtallica's. Of course, when I hear a great song by Megadeth(i.e. Mechanix, Moto Psycho, Headcrusher, etc) it's impossible to play out due to chatchy fun-ness. Metallica songs occasionally suffer the danger of getting overplayed(i.e. The Unforgive, Hero Of The Day, Master Of Puppets), that danger doesn't mean much for me, since I don't often play things out. :satancross: |
| __________________________________ [May 22,2010 8:09pm - ShadowSD ""] Woah!_Shut_It_Down! said:MEgadeth does have great songs, yes, but they are fewer in quantity to those of MEtallica's. Exactly - they had fewer good songs per good album, anyway (overall, by now there's no question Megadeth has put more good material out than Metallica cumulatively, since the latter hasn't made an effort in almost two decades) What I mean by per album is that there's not a song on the first five Metallica albums that I would ever skip, but despite the fact I think all the Megadeth albums but Risk are VERY VERY good, I can only count one Megadeth album I can say the same thing about as far as every song being excellent. Usually there was one or two that was just OK. And "Hero of the Day" was worn out before the first time it was played. "Excuse me while I tend to how I feel" - what the fuck is that, Hetfield from any previous album would have kicked the shit out of anyone who suggested such a gay lyric. |
| ________________________________ [May 22,2010 8:39pm - Kevord ""] Woah!_Shut_It_Down! said:Metallica is quite a ways better than Megadeth in my opinion. MEgadeth does have great songs, yes, but they are fewer in quantity to those of MEtallica's. Of course, when I hear a great song by Megadeth(i.e. Mechanix, Moto Psycho, Headcrusher, etc) it's impossible to play out due to chatchy fun-ness. Metallica songs occasionally suffer the danger of getting overplayed(i.e. The Unforgive, Hero Of The Day, Master Of Puppets), that danger doesn't mean much for me, since I don't often play things out. :satancross: You fail by saying Megadeth's great songs are Mechanix, MotoPsycho, and Head crusher. Those aren't even good Megadeth song's. Try In my Darkest hour, Tornado of souls, or Holy wars kid. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 22,2010 9:02pm - Woah!_Shut_It_Down! ""] Will do, old timer. But I'll probably maintain my stance regardless. Never hurts to pirate more, though. >_> |
| ________________________________ [May 22,2010 9:59pm - Kevord ""] Woah!_Shut_It_Down! said:Will do, old timer. But I'll probably maintain my stance regardless. Never hurts to pirate more, though. >_> Then don't give opinions about things you don't know about. I've seen both bands live a shit ton of times. When I saw Metallica at the garden last year they were boring and horrible. Megadeth at the Palladium two years ago was great. |
| __________________________________ [May 22,2010 10:02pm - reimroc ""] reimroc said:i love metallica but really megadeth as a whole package is better. |
| ____________________________________________________________ [May 23,2010 12:14am - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] Woah!_Shut_It_Down! said:Metallica is quite a ways better than Megadeth in my opinion. MEgadeth does have great songs, yes, but they are fewer in quantity to those of MEtallica's. Of course, when I hear a great song by Megadeth(i.e. Mechanix, Moto Psycho, Headcrusher, etc) it's impossible to play out due to chatchy fun-ness. Metallica songs occasionally suffer the danger of getting overplayed(i.e. The Unforgive, Hero Of The Day, Master Of Puppets), that danger doesn't mean much for me, since I don't often play things out. :satancross: Unforgiven, Hero of the Day, Motopsycho, Headcrusher, ....... do you actually listen to metal at all? Amazing that you like the worst shit from two of the best bands. |
| ____________________________________ [May 23,2010 12:20am - Spaldino ""] Rust in Peace > Master of Puppets. Hands down. i prefer And Justice For All over MoP... but take Megadeth's best album and put it up against Metallica's "best" album, and it is very clear. more aggression, more variation, better riffing, BETTER DRUMMING, a more thrilling listen... Rust in Peace alone smokes Metallica's entire catalogue. |
| ____________________________________ [May 23,2010 12:25am - Lich_King ""] ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said:Comparing Mechanix and Horsemen is pretty strong evidence arguing in favor of Megadeth, since whichever you prefer they're still BOTH MUSTAINE SONGS. Wow, really? So Hetfield & co. had no influence whatsoever on their version, they're just both Dave Mustaine's vision of the song. The entire point is that Metallica polished a meh song into a monster, while Dave released his pure vision of his song and it was merely... meh. |
| ___________________________________________________________ [May 23,2010 2:26am - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] Hetfield doesn't influence anyone. People influence HIM. That's why he wrote speed/thrash with mustaine, Epic riffs with Burton, Shitty blues rock with Hammett, and now back to striding thrash/rock with Trujilio onboard. James Hetfield is a gigantic fucking SPONGE. It's got something to do with the pox scars. |
| _____________________________ [May 23,2010 8:04am - pam ""] This is a sexy argument. |
| __________________________________ [May 23,2010 8:27am - ShadowSD ""] ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said:Hetfield doesn't influence anyone. People influence HIM. That's why he wrote speed/thrash with mustaine, Epic riffs with Burton, Shitty blues rock with Hammett, and now back to striding thrash/rock with Trujilio onboard. So who influenced him to do St. Anger, a venerial disease? Actually, if we are to believe the band's version of things (including ex-member Newsted) they all pretty much agree that before Load, Hetfield was completely uncompromising when it came to control and final say over the notes that would be in the songs; Hetfield himself says that Load was when he started opening things up and not worrying so much - lazy fuck, how did that turn out? Only ruined the best band ever, fucking douchebag. |
| _________________________________ [May 23,2010 8:40am - t2daeek ""] this argument is good, i suppose, but it's based on the fact that megadeth is better than metallica, which is wrong, so in the grand scheme of things, it sucks. when he breaks down point by point which bands do which things, the only clear cut "victory" for megadeth is the hair thing, which is a stupid point that only the people with a remedial understanding of music/metal would make. the point in the end is null. it doesn't matter what you look like. it's music. don't be stupid. yes, load and reload came out and so did st. anger... while metallica was going berserk all over the world between all that, trying something different, dave mustaine was doing bullshit, finding god, and refusing to play on the same bill as rotting christ. lame. their new albums suck too. worse than metallica's too, on a very large scale. i'd take st. anger over the world needs a hero. sure it sounds a LITTLE like slipknot, but at least it doesn't sound like every other lame thrash band from the 80's like everything megadeth has. and james hetfield is easily the best guitarist of all them. hands down. he just doesn't play fast ALL the time, though his solos are all the best that metallica has. figure it out... he also wrote motorbreath. better than the rest of the songs that mustaine wrote for whatever band. |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 8:40am - arktouros ""] Metallica was untouchable until Burton's fall. Megadeth has consistently better material and RUST IN PEACE. Lars Ulrich has always sucked. No one under 21 allowed in this thread. |
| __________________________________ [May 23,2010 8:54am - ShadowSD ""] t2daeek said:i'd take st. anger over the world needs a hero. You may work hard all your life to do so, but you will never live down the stupidity of this sentence. There is something seriously wrong with you. Consult a doctor. sure it sounds a LITTLE like slipknot Any justification that begins with this is doomed. Hang your head in shame. |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:48am - Lich_King ""] ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said:Hetfield doesn't influence anyone. People influence HIM. That's why he wrote speed/thrash with mustaine, Epic riffs with Burton, Shitty blues rock with Hammett, and now back to striding thrash/rock with Trujilio onboard. James Hetfield is a gigantic fucking SPONGE. It's got something to do with the pox scars.That may be so, but it doesn't change that he wrote better songs. |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:51am - arktouros ""] Kevord said: Woah!_Shut_It_Down! said:Will do, old timer. But I'll probably maintain my stance regardless. Never hurts to pirate more, though. >_> Then don't give opinions about things you don't know about. Seriously, I can't believe this kid gave an opinion without knowing what a "Holy Wars" is. |
| __________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:04am - reimroc ""] I'm not seeing any facts backing up the claims here that metallica is better than megadeth. Just sayin' |
| ____________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:22am - Lich_King ""] Sorry about that, the facts are: the first four Metallica albums. |
| __________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:23am - reimroc ""] lol i like your style |
| ____________________________________________________________ [May 23,2010 12:47pm - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] ShadowSD said: ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said:Hetfield doesn't influence anyone. People influence HIM. That's why he wrote speed/thrash with mustaine, Epic riffs with Burton, Shitty blues rock with Hammett, and now back to striding thrash/rock with Trujilio onboard. So who influenced him to do St. Anger, a venerial disease? Bob Rock and the press/fans. St. Anger is what happens when Hetfield writes metal without anyone metal to sponge off. Actually, if we are to believe the band's version of things (including ex-member Newsted) they all pretty much agree that before Load, Hetfield was completely uncompromising when it came to control and final say over the notes that would be in the songs; Hetfield himself says that Load was when he started opening things up and not worrying so much - lazy fuck, how did that turn out? Only ruined the best band ever, fucking douchebag. Hetfield DID do all the writing. However, as I said, his influences are pretty clear on the first four albums - Mustaine and Burton. Go watch the video on youtube of Robert Trujilio playing flamenco guitar in the studio. Hetfield walks in the room, listens for three seconds, and picks up his guitar to play back a perfect imitation of what Trujilio was doing. Hetfield is a sponge and an imitator. I argue that he has never had an original idea before that he didn't suck out of someone elses's creative nether. Although, since most music is just a jumble of any artists own influences, I'm sure this argument could be used against anyone. |
| ____________________________________________________________ [May 23,2010 12:49pm - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] And whichever of you just said Hetfield is the best guitarist and plays the best solos is retarded. That's not even something you could debate, man. |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:02pm - Spaldino ""] Lich_King said:Sorry about that, the facts are: the first four Metallica albums. ... and Rust in Peace destroys them all. nothing Metallica will ever do can top Rust in Peace. Metallica was more popular and people generally tend to ride the huts of the bigger bandwagon more blindly than anything else. first 4 Metallica albums were... really good. To be honest, i really don't even count Kill em All... it's... not Metallica. they made that very clear when they released Ride the Lightning. Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and And Justice For All... are legendary and i like them all very much but Rust in Peace showed what true musicianship can accomplish and they out-played Metallica several times over on that album. Song structures, musicianship, speed, variety, and originality. I would LOVE to see Kirk Hammet try to play Tornado of Souls without breaking down and crying like a barbie girl bitch. It wont happen. The last 3 Megadeth albums are almost better than Metallica's entire library of music. that alone says a lot. |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:03pm - Spaldino ""] ride the nuts* |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:10pm - Lich_King ""] Rust in Peace is very good, I'd say it competes with the first four Metallica albums and is perhaps better than Ride The Lightning. That's not good enough. |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:14pm - slag nli ""] [img] Just sayin. |
| ___________________________________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:15pm - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] Lich_King said:Rust in Peace is very good, I'd say it competes with the first four Metallica albums and is perhaps better than Ride The Lightning. That's not good enough. Sounds to me like you just don't listen to much Megadeth. |
| ___________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:21pm - Lich_King ""] They were my favorite band for a few years when I got over my initial Metallica phase when I was 17. Then, as time went on and I discovered other bands, I looked back and found Megadeth wanting. Metallica, not so much. |
| ___________________________________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:47pm - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] I'd disagree heavily, but that's how opinions work. Rust in Peace is beginning to end better than anything Metallica ever did, and is a far better example of thrash metal than anything Metallica ever did. In addition, as Spaldino pointed out, Endgame, United Abominations, and even the System Has Failed are still great examples of thrash with Endgame being right up there near Rust in Peace, while Metallica has continued to flounder for almost 20 years. I admit both bands are crap. I can't stand anything after And Justice for All, and some megadeth was watery (youthanasia, cryptic writing, world needs a hero) while some downright sucked (RISK). Metallica can't even PRETEND to be the band that wrote Master of Puppets anymore. They're sad, they're tired, they're not angry (or at least, not for the right reasons anymore). Meanwhile, Mustaine has not stopped ripping out THRASH records for the entire duration. For me it's not about Megadeth vs. Metallica. It's every fucking metal band that has stayed true to what they started with, while metallica ran off in pursuit of image, popularity, MTV, and album sales. They CONSTANTLY make stupid statements about how you just can't do the same thing and keep it fresh for 20 years. Meanwhile Gamma Ray/Helloween, Blind Guardian, Megadeth, Iron Maiden and Accept/UDO have continued to do EXACTLY that for the same amount of time, as have many others. |
| ___________________________________________________________ [May 23,2010 1:48pm - ArrowHead Logged In .... Or NOT! ""] edit: I admit both bands have RELEASED crap. Not both bands ARE crap. STONED |
| __________________________________ [May 23,2010 3:21pm - ShadowSD ""] ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said:It's every fucking metal band that has stayed true to what they started with, while metallica ran off in pursuit of image, popularity, MTV, and album sales. Agreed 1000% on the overall point - although if Metallica's goal was to pursue more popularity, MTV, and album sales, it was the biggest failure of commercial strategy in the history of the music industry, given the potential wasted. Consider, Metallica's first five albums each sold more than the last, but not only that; each sold four to five times as much as the previous one, almost like clockwork. However, every album beginning with their image change/logo change in 1996 not only broke that pattern, but none ever sold anywhere close to the Black Album ever again. Load did great the first week because of all the anticipation for the first album in five years, but then went way downhill relative to Black, which stayed in the Top 200 Albums for two and a half years after its release. The band's album sales for future releases never recovered anywhere near to what they had been, nor did they recover their upward trend, and to this day it's the first five albums that still continue to sell moreso than the stuff they came out with afterwards. If their intent was to make money with the change in style, they are the biggest failures as whores ever. |
| __________________________________ [May 23,2010 3:44pm - ShadowSD ""] ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said: Although, since most music is just a jumble of any artists own influences, I'm sure this argument could be used against anyone. Yes - and I think in the case of Hetfield, if he was capable of not only writing something in the style of somebody he meets but also something in that style that the other person wouldn't have come up with on their own - then that reaches a certain threshold of originality, because he's adding his own tweaks on it, not just regurgitating like a machine (in which case the earlier Metallica and Megadeth albums would have sounded far more similar than they did). Of course, I'm only referring to Hetfield in the old days. The new Hetfield DOES regurgitate like a machine: Hey Hey Hey. At no point listening to Burton-era Metallica did I ever think for a second that Fat Albert would be in the cards. ArrowHead%20Logged%20In%20....%20Or%20NOT! said:And whichever of you just said Hetfield is the best guitarist and plays the best solos is retarded. That's not even something you could debate, man. The person who wrote that IS retarded, although moreso for the assertion than Motorbreath is better than any Megadeth song ever released - WTF? I mean, Motorbreath's a good tune, but come on... For Hetfield on solos, I think it's again what era of Hetfield we're talking about. If he means anything Hetfield has done recently, that is indeed retarded. When it comes to the older stuff, though, a lot of people don't know this, but he's responsible writing for the melodic guitar solos in the middle of Master of Puppets, Orion, To Live is To Die, Nothing Else Matters, and a few others. Those solos are some of my all-time favorites, even though there's no shredding at all involved. However, that was in the old days when Hetfield's solos were far and between, and every note had to be perfect in his eyes to be on a Metallica album. When Load came along and he stopped giving a shit, he started to do solos a LOT more, but EVERY SINGLE ONE since that time has sucked donkey balls. Between him and the wah pedal junkie, I haven't heard a good Metallica solo in as long as I haven't heard a satisfying Metallica album. |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 3:58pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] I agree with a lot you say, but as far as solos... nothing Hetfield or Hammett has ever done can touch what Mustaine is capable of on his own a guitarist. Not to mention his insane arsenal of sidemen, culminating in Chris Broderick. bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 4:07pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""] And remember, while Metallica are happily buying the wives whatever they wanted while complacently loafing in board shorts, [img] Mustaine goes through a divorce, and puts a song on the new album about saying goodbye as he murders her: bennyhillifier SOoo much more metal. How can people still defend modern Metallica without admitting they love Godsmack? |