BLACKGUARD/NEURAXIS/GIGAN plus others @ Wally's in Hampton Beach, NH.[views:77349][posts:290][show listing] __________________________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 8:00pm - CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY ""] You don't care 'cause you're stuck in your little internet world. I love that video that was put up. That show was with RAZORMAZE!! Ha ha... So, sometimes us bigger bands don't do so well. I know some of you on here like to shit on them too. But, I think they're a good band... |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 8:03pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] why do you need rttps approval so bad? if we are all a bunch of lowlifes who's opinions dont matter then why do you keep posting on here? you are just perpetuating your own misery. this is how it is, how its always been and probably how it will always be. find another resource for bands or get used to the constant disaproval and mockery of your business practices. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 4,2011 8:03pm - devil ""] There's no need to tell what you've done unless someone is asking which is not the case here... |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 9:30pm - MillenialKingdom ""] I've played downstairs Palladium and don't remember having to sell tickets to it. That was the Summer Slaughter tour date in 09. I don't remember CSDO playing that. Oh that's right they didn't. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 9:40pm - Eric Paone‘s father ""] Eric! Jerkin off again |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 10:29pm - The Truth ""] blue said:i will gladly chime in on this thread now. eric, you know exactly who i am so feel free to take some shots. i have been doing this shit for a while now, though not nearly as long as you (10+ years). i have never played a single show where i was required to pony up money for tickets, and i dont have problems pulling people in. i promote the shit out of my shows i play/book, and told anyone that tried to make me come up with money to FUCK OFF (case in point: eyehategod last may @ rockos). in turn the shitty promoter (new england concerts) did what sketchy promoters do: cancel the show because no one will do the dirty work and come up with the tour money for them. That is exactly my point.... well sayd Blue so i sayd it and i will say it again if you want to learn how to promote national acts and have local bands open without having to sell tickets for you! talk to Blue cuz the man knows what he is talking about you brag about how much shit you have done and the end result is NOTHING... more work and less talk please when i book a tour, i dont make locals sell tickets or pay. i promote the show myself by flyering heavily and lots of online promotion. when new england concerts books a tour, they do no promotion whatsoever and make the bands pay for the tour. the recent nile show at rockos was a great example of this 'do no work' policy. you are just perpetuating the same style, maybe with a slight bit more promotion. but not by much. with this 'fuck pay to play' attitude, i have managed to play the palladium more times than CSDO and not have to pay for any unsold tickets. played club hell more times than i can count and never sold a single ticket. never had a problem attendance either. also played to way more than 80 people. dont tell people its not raining when you're pissing on them, and dont try to convince people its not pay to play when it clearly is. also dont brag about all the tours youve turned down. be a man and fucking tour LIKE A REAL METALHEAD. put out a full length while youre at it. and dont tell people that theyre never going to make it with their 'shitty' attitude because youre not going to make it with your 'pay to play, shit talk everyone and never leave new england ever' attitude either. you whine about how all these bands not being around in 3-4 years...but the fact of the matter is those bands will have accomplished just as much if not more than you have in the 20+ years youve been trying to keep CSDO together. /end rant |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 10:32pm - The Truth ""] That is exactly my point.... well sayd Blue so i sayd it and i will say it in if you want to learn how to promote national acts and have local bands open without having to sell tickets for you! talk to Blue cuz the man knows what he is talking about you brag about how much shit you have done and the end result is NOTHING... more work and less talk please |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 11:42pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] CANDY%20STRIPER%20DEATH%20ORGY said:You don't care 'cause you're stuck in your little internet world. I love that video that was put up. That show was with RAZORMAZE!! Ha ha... So, sometimes us bigger bands don't do so well. [img] |
| _________________________________ [Mar 4,2011 11:49pm - W3 nli ""] this was a lot of fun reading while stoned, thank you internet. thank you. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 12:53am - divine intervention ""] eric does what he does and does it good. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:50am - nekronaut ""] Divine Intervention is Eric. Self-fag all up in this thread. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 2:13am - DestroyYouAlot ""] nekronaut said:Divine Intervention is Eric. Self-fag all up in this thread. Suspected this for YEARS, but I have a feeling it's just one of their friends. (I.e., the guy who gets hit up every time Eric has to sell tix.) |
| ___________________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 12:29pm - CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY ""] It's not me jack-off's... It's a friend of our band. Nekronaut is a gaybait. And, his band totally blows dog... |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 12:35pm - howiehowe ""] Getting on a show with a national is a commitment for the whole show - telling your fans to come for your set time is not honoring your commitment to the show overall. It is not abaut just you and your band, it is about the whole show. I would not book a band again whose only interest was in in promoting for themselves - while at the same expecting to gain new fans on the backs of other bands. In fact when bands ask me what their set time is on a show, unless they are the headliner, I wont tell them until they get there, and if they don't draw at least 50, I will tear up their name card and tell them to never call me again. If you can't draw 50 people you suck - go get a job at a club as a barback. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 12:48pm - howiehowe ""] And Pay to Play is buying the tickets up front, and selling them to get your money back, if you can - it is not being fronted to tickets to sell. If you take a show with a ticket sale commitment, you are agreeing to do the job of selling them - if you don't sell them you broke your commitment - if you don't even try to sell them and end up paying for them, it is still not pay to play, it is an indication that your word was no good. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 12:55pm - nekronaut ""] CANDY%20STRIPER%20DEATH%20ORGY said:Nekronaut is a gaybait. And, his band totally blows dog... We have a lot in common then.. because you are also a gaybait and your band totally blows dog |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:08pm - Sacreligion ""] Thread's too long. Will not read. I assume it goes CSDO: Sell tickets! RTTP: GTFO CSDO: its called work. Your band sucks. RTTP: No, you're old, lazy, fat and YOUR band sucks. CSDO: I know Joey Belladonna and think the music scene hasn't changed in 20 years. RTTP: Teh lulz |
| __________________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:19pm - CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY ""] Ballsacreligion... Your band has always sucked. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:27pm - markworkingrichards ""] This thread is awesome. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:29pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] howiehowe said:Getting on a show with a national is a commitment for the whole show - telling your fans to come for your set time is not honoring your commitment to the show overall. It is not abaut just you and your band, it is about the whole show. I would not book a band again whose only interest was in in promoting for themselves - while at the same expecting to gain new fans on the backs of other bands. n fact when bands ask me what their set time is on a show, unless they are the headliner, I wont tell them until they get there, and if they don't draw at least 50, I will tear up their name card and tell them to never call me again. If you can't draw 50 people you suck - go get a job at a club as a barback. hahahahaha you run nothing way to be an unprofessional douche to people too dumb to call you on your shit. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:33pm - markworkingrichards ""] I heard there's dog-blowing somewhere in this thread? |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:34pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I think what this thread shows, if anything, is that - slowly but surely - these fuckers (the guilty clubs and promoters) are actually being edged out of working with any legitimate local acts, to the point where they're begging for somebody to show up and play (and to bring their parents' cash). THIS EDUCATION SHIT WORKS. Now if we can just start edging out the bands... [/dramatic ellipsis] |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:35pm - markworkingrichards ""] Still, nothing about dog-blowing. Thread does not deliver. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:38pm - nekronaut ""] markworkingrichards said:Still, nothing about dog-blowing. Thread does not deliver. nekronaut said: CANDY%20STRIPER%20DEATH%20ORGY said:Nekronaut is a gaybait. And, his band totally blows dog... We have a lot in common then.. because you are also a gaybait and your band totally blows dog |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:40pm - markworkingrichards ""] I want photographic evidence. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 1:50pm - Sacreligion ""] I don't know how to play my instrument and never played outside of my moms basement. :( |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 2:05pm - largefreakatzero ""] Howie Howe? Really. Haven't heard that name for years and still gives me the douchechills. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 2:12pm - dicktotheface ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 2:14pm - nekronaut ""] bennyhillifier |
| __________________________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 2:30pm - CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY ""] Bottom line is if your band does not agree with the way we do things then your band sucks! If you agree with the way we do things your band rocks! Get with the program AND BRING BACK THE THRASH! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 2:52pm - amorok666 ""] Lol @ 179 posts in this thread none of which are about this show. Most people posting here have probably forgot that this thread was intended to inform people about this gay blackguard show. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 2:55pm - amorok666 ""] Also funny that some poor saps are out trying to sell tickets for this thing and csdo is here doing this. Way to promote your shit buddy. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 3:24pm - dicktotheface ""] CANDY%20STRIPER%20DEATH%20ORGY said:Bottom line is if your band does not agree with the way we do things then your band sucks! If you agree with the way we do things your band rocks! Get with the program AND BRING BACK THE THRASH! a number of the bands that disagree with you have toured Europe and toured with nationals and have made a name for themselves. Are you saying they suck? Or are you jealous that they're more successful than you? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 4:27pm - BlackGays ""] I'd rather watch Black Gays than Blackguard |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 4:39pm - Sacreligion ""] [img] Folk metal? More like POKE metal! |
| _____________________________ [Mar 5,2011 5:01pm - blue ""] ok, this thread will now just be sweet dick pics |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 6:35pm - howiehowe ""] Obviously for bands who have a chip on their shoulder - let me put this in simple terms - it is not the job of the promoter (or club) to provide you with an audience, it is the job of the promoter (or club) to bring in bands that actually have fans willing to pay to see them. National acts don't want you on their bill no matter what they say unless you can help promote and add to the audience. There is no such thing as an opening act, they are referred to legally as "Suppprt Acts" and the duty of a support act is to support the headliner by bringing in additional audience. Local acts want to act like their not being mentioned in advertising is some sort of a slight - worng - contracts with nationals usually require that they receive 100% of all promotion and advertsing - now if they get 100% what do the local acts get? The answer is Zero by contractural obligation - so if a Prmoter does put your name on a poster. or in advertising, consider it a gift that is actually in violation of their contract witht the headliner. One last thing, nobody forces you to take a gig anywhere - if you want to play then you have an obligation to do your job, which is far more than just getting on stage. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 6:48pm - howiehowe ""] One last note - if any of you have any idea of getting signed to any label with any kind fo real distribution take note: The labels want to know you have a market for your material, and they judge that by how many come to your shows. The time when labels signed bands becasue they liked what they do is long over - it is about numbers - if you can't get 50 people to pay to see you then why should a label risk money on you? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 7:01pm - howiehowe ""] DestroyYouAlot said:I think what this thread shows, if anything, is that - slowly but surely - these fuckers (the guilty clubs and promoters) are actually being edged out of working with any legitimate local acts, to the point where they're begging for somebody to show up and play (and to bring their parents' cash). THIS EDUCATION SHIT WORKS. Now if we can just start edging out the bands... [/dramatic ellipsis]Now that's hilarious - problem is there are way too many bands and not enough shows, so the fact is we promoters turn down more bands than we have play, and for the most part, many will do what it takes to get on a show, including selling tickets - however they get mad when they find they wrote out a check with the mouths their ass can't cash, and they are called on it! If the promoter tells you that you need to sell tickets to be on the show, and you accept the show under those terms, but don't sell them - who really is the scumbag? |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 7:15pm - Sacreligion ""] Fuck labels. DIY or GTFO. The Dead had it right. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 7:27pm - Paul CNV ""] There are plenty of labels that have artistic integrity in what they sign.... and yes they have good distribution and their bands play round the world. VAN records Ajna Offensive Bindrune Recordings Profound Lore Records Just to name a few The fact of the matter is that no one has a problem with promoter's like Robin from Ammonia booking who books amazing shows (with the numbers to back it ) without making bands sign contracts to sell tickets... But there sure are plenty of people that HATE you dudes.... Just does not add up Howie Ho |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 8:32pm - howiehowe ""] No sweat off my back - I'm not begging any of you to play, because quite honestly, we don't need you. I came here for laughs - I got them, and now I know a bunch of bands that will never play any of the venues or shows I set up, and I ahve opened several in the last few weeks you will be begging to play. If you think your comments concern me, then the joke really is on you! The bands we put on this show will draw, volunteerd to be on the show, and agreed to sell tickets, which is probably because they have fans who will actually pay to see them. And the ones who really do the job will get bigger and better shows all over New England. I've heard this crap for years, and eventually I see those who would not listen long out of the business, trying to figure why they never got anywhere, and blaming everyboidy but themselves for their failure. Good luck flippin' burgers in your future! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2011 8:42pm - Paul CNV ""] Bwahahaha ... Ok Howie... Yeah you obviously fucking run the show here in New England. Please forgive me your majesty.... and ps... I've never begged to play... I'm not in this to be a rock star ... ( or a money grubbin scab ) |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 1:34am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Paul%20CNV said:Bwahahaha ... Ok Howie... Yeah you obviously fucking run the show here in New England. Please forgive me your majesty.... and ps... I've never begged to play... I'm not in this to be a rock star ... ( or a money grubbin scab ) SOLIDARITY BROTHER [img] |
| _____________________________ [Mar 6,2011 1:54am - BSV ""] fucking missed my bro's in neuraxis last time due to snow plowing. can't wait to smoke shit tons of pot with all the bands and not pay for the show! bands who want money are gay. only bands who like drugs are real, get with it! can't even drink on stage in NH, live free or what? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 2:42am - arilliusbm ""] I can't believe I just read this thread now. Any metalhead that CARES about what "national acts" they've played with, how many fans they have, or any other superficial nonsense aren't real metalheads. Who the fuck cares. And Blue's right. Pay to play should not be relevant with metal bands. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 3:44am - Paul CNV ""] In a perfect world people and family would be shot and buried in a mass grave |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 8:15am - JustinBOTG nli ""] In a perfect world, these faggot promoters and pay to play band whores would all die in a fire. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 8:51am - Alexecutioner ""] CANDY%20STRIPER%20DEATH%20ORGY said:Sometimes you have to pay for the rest of them... If it's only 5 nobody's gonna care. So what you're really saying is, the promoters don't really give a shit if you bring people through the door, as long as you give them all the money for each ticket they told you to sell. Why the fuck would you want to pay for the rest of the tickets you didn't sell if they want you to "bring people through the door". fucking idiots |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 6,2011 8:52am - Alexecutioner ""] They want your money, that's it. |