President Barak H. Obama[views:27418][posts:284]_______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 10:48am - Yeti ""] you're right, change is frightening to the average member of the herd. any kind of radical movement would probably be labeled as terrorism. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 10:59am - corpus_colloidal ""] porphyria said:okay...I'm an idiot, you are know all of politics and capable of predicting the future. your not an idiot you just think your smarter than most and therefore your naturally a little defensive when alternate opinions are brought up cogently. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 11:21am - brian_dc ""] I just think we need more realism in our lives. Can't wait for the fuckfest to end. I hope things take a turn for the better, but I'm skeptical. And even if improvements are made, we're going to have at least a few very rough years ahead. That much was not contingent upon who was elected. Those wheels have been in motion for years. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 11:24am - arilliusbm ""] stock up on canned food, grab a couple of guns, build an underground shelter and bring numerous fap material. good to go. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 11:34am - porphyria ""] I don't think I'm smarter than most, I just stated my opinion same as you minus the political jabs. While I agree with your statement about our forefathers, I would think it's general knowledge that the president can only do so much and to a certain extent especially in the present. But to just imply that some degree of change will never be accomplished by any president just sounds pessimistic for the sake of being pessimistic. Like Limbaugh, hoping that Obama fails and accusing everyone of being sheep just because they show a ounce of hope for improvement, ect. I know you don't classify the fact that Obama is the first black president as legit change but I think it is, even if it's just a cosmetic one. If he were speaking 'ebonics' I'd be a bit worried. haha. We shall see what happens, I'd hope things at least get a little better for everyone elses sake and mine. Anyways, isn't the world suppose to end in 2012 according to the Mayans and Testament? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 11:41am - arilliusbm ""] NWO IS COMING NWO IS COMING NWO IS COMING NWO IS COMING |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:39pm - Yeti ""] porphyria said:Anyways, isn't the world suppose to end in 2012 according to the Mayans and Testament? it was a rumor until Anaal Nathrakh wrote a song about it. now its official. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:41pm - porphyria ""] hahahah |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:48pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said: orgymf@work said: timma said:I like Obama, and I think he's a major upgrade from Bush. i think this needs to stop. everyone keeps saying "he's better than bush" "he's a step up from W" etc. listen, that means nothing! saying better than bush is like saying thinner than me..most people are it's like saying "more comfortable than jerking off with sandpaper" most things are. see what i mean? what's the matter saying something is a major upgrade or better than something else when it clearly IS? most people are thinner than you and probably get way hotter chicks. compared to bush, obama is like jerking off with ky jelly compared to sandpaper. you can keep the sandpaper, kthnx! i am sick of people stating that lame and obvious point. it's reptitive and obnoxious. that's what's wrong with it. the weight thing was just a comparrison....it's actually pretty easy for me to get girls i am attracted to since i am (and i always have been, even when i was 19 and 200 pounds lighter) attracted to 2 types of women. pale skinned, big tittied, well proportioned, overweight white girls and shy asian immigrants. almost every woman i have slept with fits into one of these two cattergories, including my current girl, who i have extremely happy with for 3 years now. so in short, i get girls that i consider gorgeous (regardless of anyone else's opinion of them), and my sex/love life is completely irrelavant to my analogy anyways. and we all know anything is better than bush....but obama is nothing but false hope....he's not as great as youliberal sissies all seem to think....you'll see |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:52pm - Yeti ""] argh. there is no fucking way to tell. this is his SECOND day in office, no one knows whether he is going to do well or is going to fail. lets give the guy a chance. and by chance i mean 4 years. he won't be able to fix or solve anything for at least 2. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:54pm - orgymf@work ""] Yeti said:argh. there is no fucking way to tell. this is his SECOND day in office, no one knows whether he is going to do well or is going to fail. lets give the guy a chance. and by chance i mean 4 years. he won't be able to fix or solve anything for at least 2. socialist agenda = fail see Fidel Castro end of thread |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:55pm - porphyria ""] seriously. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:56pm - porphyria ""] Socialist, how? |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:57pm - Yeti ""] again, 2 days. 2. i agree with the socialist aspect, but i doubt it will carry through for very long. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:58pm - orgymf@work ""] higher taxes for middle class, money funnel down to welfare recipients. hard working lower middle class, gets next to nothing (if anything at all) Castro style socialism |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:58pm - Yeti ""] and at that, what he is doing is only a ghost of socialism. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:59pm - Yeti ""] i don't necessarily see that, he seems to be pushing for more middle class attention. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 12:59pm - porphyria ""] higher taxes for middle class? source? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:00pm - orgymf@work ""] listen, guys, i just have no fucking faith in any politician. i would have been just as mad if mccain won. i do not trust any politician. i back Ron Paul, but he is a politician, so i still don't fully trust him |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:01pm - Yeti ""] rightfully so, but i'd rather believe that he is going to do some good instead of assuming 2 days into his term that he is going to destroy everything. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:01pm - porphyria ""] yeah yeah, Ron Paul, we all know he's the dude to vote for if you want real change. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:01pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said:higher taxes for middle class? source? i rephrase....upper middle class......ya know, people who worked their whole life to get comfortable, but are not (and probably never will be) wealthy. middle class will get little to no help, same with lower middle class. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:02pm - orgymf@work ""] Yeti said:rightfully so, but i'd rather believe that he is going to do some good instead of assuming 2 days into his term that he is going to destroy everything. i firmly believe he will fuck up i sincerely hope to be proven wrong. i don't want him to fail, i want this country to thrive |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:03pm - porphyria ""] upper middle class = $250,000/year and up? who gives a shit... |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:03pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] define "fuck up" |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:03pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said:yeah yeah, Ron Paul, we all know he's the dude to vote for if you want real change. yeah, reverting to the gold standard, closing borders, no birthright citizenship, pulling the troops out of iraq, changing the tax system for the better. you're right....no changhe thetre smarmy liberal pissant |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:06pm - orgymf@work ""] FuckIsMySignature said:define "fuck up" giving too much to those who need to be motivated to work for themselves not helping lower middle class/working class putting troops that in iraq into afghanastan instead of bringing them home. as i said, look into castro....very similar promises were made when he went into power. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:07pm - porphyria ""] wouldn't that be asier said than done? sure, Ron Paul would promise all that change but according to corpus there's no way to achieve legit change since the president is a mere puppet with no grounds to actually change anything anymore. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:10pm - xmikex ""] FuckIsMySignature said:define "fuck up" [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:10pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said:upper middle class = $250,000/year and up? who gives a shit... if you worked you're whole life to build you're own business to earn that much and were then told, "sorry, obama is gonna give HALF OF YOUR INCOME to people on welfare" you would give a shit mother fucker if you make 250,000 a year, and only take home 125,000 after taxes..... you'd be gettin jipped. taxing the wealthy (1 million post taxes in the bank with no assets unpaid for) for 50 % is absolutely justified......especially since most millionaires are just overpayed/overpraised entertainers, or genetic lottery winning estate inheritants |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:11pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said:wouldn't that be asier said than done? sure, Ron Paul would promise all that change but according to corpus there's no way to achieve legit change since the president is a mere puppet with no grounds to actually change anything anymore. fair enough....but his plans are still better than what i have heard obama promise |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:11pm - aril ""] lol, sarah palin said the same stuff about joe the plumber |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:11pm - orgymf@work ""] xmikex said: FuckIsMySignature said:define "fuck up" [img] hahaha! amazing, mike, just amazing |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:12pm - porphyria ""] I'd be happy with $125,000 after taxes. kthnx. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:13pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said:I'd be happy with $125,000 after taxes. kthnx. you say that now, because it's alot more than you make....but if you earned twice that much, i don't think you would be to happy with your take home. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:13pm - porphyria ""] orgymf@work said: porphyria said:wouldn't that be asier said than done? sure, Ron Paul would promise all that change but according to corpus there's no way to achieve legit change since the president is a mere puppet with no grounds to actually change anything anymore. fair enough....but his plans are still better than what i have heard obama promise I agree somewhat but I don't see Ron Paul winning any elections anytime soon. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:13pm - Yeti ""] for his move to raise taxes on the wealthy, i agree and disagree. i agree because, well, they are rich and can afford it, but i disagree because that isn't the way this country was built. everyone has the right to make as much money as they want, and like Orgy said, someone who worked their ass off to get there shouldn't be treated differently. as much as i hate to say it, that's the way things should be treated based on the ideals of this country. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:14pm - porphyria ""] orgymf@work said: porphyria said:I'd be happy with $125,000 after taxes. kthnx. you say that now, because it's alot more than you make....but if you earned twice that much, i don't think you would be to happy with your take home. You could also say that maybe there is someone out there that earns a million dollars a year and only gets $500,000 of it after taxes. They're still damn well off regardless! |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:15pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said: orgymf@work said: porphyria said:wouldn't that be asier said than done? sure, Ron Paul would promise all that change but according to corpus there's no way to achieve legit change since the president is a mere puppet with no grounds to actually change anything anymore. fair enough....but his plans are still better than what i have heard obama promise I agree somewhat but I don't see Ron Paul winning any elections anytime soon. unfortunately, i do agree with you 100 percent on that one. he would never win, because most of america thinks he is crazy..... it doesn't help that Alex Jones (the conspiracy theorist nutjob) backs him |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:15pm - aril ""] The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills. Everything will fall into place. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:15pm - Yeti ""] but at the same time, you'd think that people who ARE rich wouldn't mind giving a bit more to help out the economy. but that's in a world where humans aren't human. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:16pm - Yeti ""] aril said:The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills. Everything will fall into place. ka is like a wheel... |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:17pm - orgymf@work ""] porphyria said: orgymf@work said: porphyria said:I'd be happy with $125,000 after taxes. kthnx. you say that now, because it's alot more than you make....but if you earned twice that much, i don't think you would be to happy with your take home. You could also say that maybe there is someone out there that earns a million dollars a year and only gets $500,000 of it after taxes. They're still damn well off regardless! $500,000 would be damn well off. but $125,000 in this economy. if you got a wife, a house, a car, and kids. that is not well off at all......especially if you work hard to earn twice as much |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:17pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Yeti said: aril said:The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills. Everything will fall into place. ka is like a wheel... did you finish that goddamn book series yet? |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:18pm - Yeti ""] haha i just finished Wolves of the Calla. i restarted from The Gunslinger to refresh, after a short break i'm on to The Song of Susannah. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:19pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] hurry up so discussions may commence lol |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:20pm - porphyria ""] If you're making $250,000 gross annually, you should be pretty damn comfortable. Just because you give up a bunch for taxes like everyone else doesn't mean that it's no longer the 'land of opportunity'. Try making that much money in Cambodia, ect. where it would be a luxury to even have a TV. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:22pm - aril ""] And meanwhile, sports stars are still making in excess of 20 million a year. Rich, poor, whathaveyou, money is worthless, has no value and is no longer backed up by anything. It's a piece of paper that is meaningless. We are controlled by the Federal Reserve (I work in the fahkin' building for Christ's sake) and are falsely convinced that money really does have value. It doesn't. Our WHOLE society is based off of money. You think the really rich give two shits about the average blue collar American? Fuck no. It's the last thing on their minds. In our eyes, Money = Power and Power = control. If you want to know the truth, understand that this whole financial situation is part of a master plan. It's not a conspiracy, it's the fucking truth. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:22pm - Yeti ""] no i agree, but that's not what we were built on. i'm not saying its right, i'm just saying that's what this country is about. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 1:23pm - porphyria ""] orgymf@work said: $500,000 would be damn well off. but $125,000 in this economy. if you got a wife, a house, a car, and kids. that is not well off at all......especially if you work hard to earn twice as much yeah, well then maybe people will chill down and realize they don't need a pimped Escalade and BMW, a 28 room house with 4 bathrooms in order to raise a family, especially if their priority is to raise a family. |