Christian Melodic Black Metal band forming...[views:44483][posts:233]___________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 11:19am - sinistas ""] I don't consider myself Christian anymore, but there's still way too much hate on this thread. Really. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 1:04pm - Ekklesia ""] InVitroCannibalization, who said christians dont sing about gore? we sing about the reality if you don't turn to Christ you wil burn for eternity in a fire forever as your skin is tortured for eternity it burns and the pain never ends. Forever you cant get out your head that this band tried to show you the truth satan wants you dead with him separated from God for eternity. in hell you have negitive feelings still you will yell, scream, shake, tremble, and smell flesh burning for eternity. you tell me we cant talk about gore. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 1:26pm - Xammael ""] Ekklesia said:we sing about the reality if you don't turn to Christ you wil burn for eternity That's quite the "reality" you've got there. "Fantasy" would be a much better term since you're clearly delusional. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 3:01pm - Rex_Hartman ""] Xammael said:Ekklesia said:we sing about the reality if you don't turn to Christ you wil burn for eternity That's quite the "reality" you've got there. "Fantasy" would be a much better term since you're clearly delusional. The point is we are dealing with a HOLY GOD who cannot allow sin into heaven, so even though he loves you with an everlasting love, it's would destroy heaven for him to allow a soul in heaven that isn't clean by the blood of His son Jesus. That's the bad news. The good news is, it's pretty simple to repent...the problem is pride really. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 3:04pm - Rex_Hartman ""] BestialOnslaught said:anonymous said:I don't REALLY understand why believing in someone who showed the greatest love of all is ignorance *SHRUG* but that's just me... asta Just shut the fuck up already. Don't tell her what to do. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 3:22pm - Xammael ""] Rex_Hartman said:The point is we are dealing with a HOLY GOD who cannot allow sin into heaven, so even though he loves you with an everlasting love, it's would destroy heaven for him to allow a soul in heaven that isn't clean by the blood of His son Jesus. That's the bad news. The good news is, it's pretty simple to repent...the problem is pride really. You are fucking nuts. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 4:50pm - Mathais ""] christian Black Metal, if true to its nature, would have lyrics gorier than exhumed or cannibal corpse. For instances, they could write about the crusading into Jerusalem in 1099, killing every peaceful non-christian in sight, and cannibalizing the flesh of muslim babies. Theres also the King Phillips war. "We peeled their scalps and bled their hair Killing who we cant convert Genocide, the answer to our prayers Will cleanse our lands of pagan dirt" Just as you invaded, converted and/or slaughtered civilizations throughout history, you have come to claim our sacred genre of black metal. To you we are the heathens like those who lived peacefully in the northern mountains, or on unclaimed american soil. History has lied to you. Vikings did not invade, only retaliate. We will too. |
| ____________________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 4:54pm - vengefulandgodless ""] Mathais said:Vikings did not invade, only retaliate. We will too. ever hear of king harold of norway |
| __________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 5:47pm - Mathais ""] google seems to think that King Harold was Anglo-Saxon. Whether this is right or not, it doesnt matter. History is not black and white. My only knowledge of western history being twisted to positively portray Christianity comes from Michel De Montaigne's "Essay of Cannibals" which is too long winded to find a good summarizing quote. I was only trying to draw a comparison between christians throughout history, and the christians here at this board. They had the first word, obviously an attempt at getting under the skin of the black metal community (but feel free to argue this) and based on the ridiculous length of this thread, they are also trying to get the last word. We black metallers may appear hostile, even hateful, but were only trying to defend our invaded territory. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 8:40pm - InVitroCannibalization ""] ... |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 8:50pm - Chris-tian ""] Invaded territory? You were BORN already liking this style of music? No. It's something that grew on you, a learned behaviour. Or like most poeple you are into it only because your friends are, or because they got you into it. The point is this, if you feel black metal is a territory to be invaded, then you are probably basing your existance of this genre of music, which is pretty sad. If our having a band that plays just as brutal and beautifully yet praises Jesus instead of satan how does that "bring down" your sacred black metal? If my praising God through a means that you are most familiar with to spread the message of redemption to those who wouldn't hear it otherswise or understand it otherwise "destroys" your balck metal, then, prepare to be destroyed. It's not like I am shoving my beliefs down your thoat. I am not forcing anyone hear to listen to our music or to believe what we believe. I want to play great skillful music and at the same time sow the seeds of the gospel. If you can't handle it, perhaps some looking into your own insecurities is in order. Seeing as you are talking like you feel threatened or less than a man because of our endeavor. Think about it. And yes it wasn;t a smart idea posting on this website for a drummer and basist, but that's not my fault. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 8:59pm - Rex_Hartman ""] Hey, it wasn't MY idea. :-P |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 9:14pm - drkangel3667 ""] To each their own... maybe you'll find ppl that like the idea of being preached to in songs... I was never a fan of it and avoid it all costs these days. I won't deny a childhood filled with sundays at church and summers helping out at the nunnery... but turning the one thing i prefer angry and dark into light... sure, whatever. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 9:14pm - Mathais ""] All human beings follow a set stage of development. It isnt until we become young adults that our attitudes and opinions are shaped. These are eventually solidified into an identity. Ive been a musician since I was in second grade, in a constant search for the heaviest and most complex music. I was the only kid in my high school that owned an emperor cd (that i know of). A Black Metal musician is my identity, an identity that celebrates individuality, and one that I am proud of. Now lets think outside the box for a moment. Is it possible that one's "territory" can parallel one's "identity"? certainly. I have no sense of nationalism, and have no spirituality. So i'm just a insecure little boy who was made fun of in high school, and forced to deviate into an underground subculture, to hopefully feel some sort of naive superiority? nah. I just hate Christianity. The statement that "jesus does not belong in black metal, go away" has been repeated so much that its obviously not getting into your head(s). Ill give it one more shot. JESUS DOES NOT BELONG IN BLACK METAL! GO MAKE YOUR OWN GENRE AND CONTINUE POISONING MINDS AND REPRESSING 4 BILLION YEARS OF EVOLUTIONARY INSTINCT. and finally, your little attmept at psycho-analysis. Religious conflict has nothing to do with masculinity, or lack there of. If you want something to think about, try grasping the enormous void you are filling with religion. Ever look at the sky? feel insignificant? feel scared? feel all alone? cant deal? pray to jesus! he'll give you answers. he'll give you comfort. What would you be without religion? That scared little boy mentioned above. I hope the weight of the world eventually crushes you. Anywho, I'll try out for your band if you still need a drummer. I play in a satanic band called Abaroth (www.abaroth.com) I hope thats not a problem! LOLz! |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 13,2005 11:08pm - ATNFAC_Vokillz ""] Yea well I'm starting a Satanic Creed cover band so fuck off. Oh and J the long rant about turning the other cheek not helping kicked ass.:satancross: |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 12:20am - Rex_Hartman ""] Mathais said:All human beings follow a set stage of development. It isnt until we become young adults that our attitudes and opinions are shaped. These are eventually solidified into an identity. Ive been a musician since I was in second grade, in a constant search for the heaviest and most complex music. I was the only kid in my high school that owned an emperor cd (that i know of). A Black Metal musician is my identity, an identity that celebrates individuality, and one that I am proud of. Now lets think outside the box for a moment. Is it possible that one's "territory" can parallel one's "identity"? certainly. I have no sense of nationalism, and have no spirituality. So i'm just a insecure little boy who was made fun of in high school, and forced to deviate into an underground subculture, to hopefully feel some sort of naive superiority? nah. I just hate Christianity. The statement that "jesus does not belong in black metal, go away" has been repeated so much that its obviously not getting into your head(s). Ill give it one more shot. JESUS DOES NOT BELONG IN BLACK METAL! GO MAKE YOUR OWN GENRE AND CONTINUE POISONING MINDS AND REPRESSING 4 BILLION YEARS OF EVOLUTIONARY INSTINCT. and finally, your little attmept at psycho-analysis. Religious conflict has nothing to do with masculinity, or lack there of. If you want something to think about, try grasping the enormous void you are filling with religion. Ever look at the sky? feel insignificant? feel scared? feel all alone? cant deal? pray to jesus! he'll give you answers. he'll give you comfort. What would you be without religion? That scared little boy mentioned above. I hope the weight of the world eventually crushes you. Anywho, I'll try out for your band if you still need a drummer. I play in a satanic band called Abaroth (www.abaroth.com) I hope thats not a problem! LOLz! I'm sorry you feel that way. At least we have a sure foundation to stand upon when the weight of the world becomes to much. At least we run to love when we can't take life anymore. What have you? Your Satanic black metal that just whispers sweet lies to you and promotes hatred? Where will that get you? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 12:36am - -iLluSiON- ""] The amount of images and responses this thread has now, well, it seems to be equal to the amount of hamburgers you eat a day, Rex. I believe it is time you go on a diet. Stay with your Eucharist and wine. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 12:43am - Rex_Hartman ""] -iLluSiON- said:The amount of images and responses this thread has now, well, it seems to be equal to the amount of hamburgers you eat a day, Rex. I believe it is time you go on a diet. Stay with your Eucharist and wine. I'm not Catholic. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 12:50am - Mathais ""] Rex_Hartman said: whispers sweet lies Asks questions. A little more productive than choking down answers. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 2:00am - ArrowHead ""] Dear faggot christian blackmetal band members, 1) why is it that whenever someone follows a non christian or jesuit faith that you jesus loving fucks label them confused? It's called faith, not fact, which means you're just plain arrogant and cocky. 2) black metal was labeled and created under anti-christian pretense. It was not a particular sound, moreso a political movement using music and culture as medium. Why grab onto their movement and force your own values OVER it when you could try something new and original, and let people imitate YOU instead. 3) Jesus told you fuckers to keep your relationship with god personal and private. He also protested organized churches. Hell, both christ AND the jews worship writings that proclaim all the churches as the world as misguided and evil. Why then must all you newborn and born again fuckers feel this enormous need to spread your faith publicly and forcibly? Is it really that hard to tuck away your insecurities and hide them like the rest of us do? 4) You denounce satanism multiple times in this thread as misguided or confused. Why? Is it that hard to comprehend, that after taking god's love for man as a given, one might still rationally choose not to reciprocate that love at the heavy cost it demands? You cocks really come across as having no fucking clue about your own faith, music, or those of others. If you intend to bring forth a ministry, you are ill prepared. I've put in 7 YEARS of concentrated theological study, and even I would have great difficulty finding that substantial ground to launch ministry from. Why not keep your music and your message seperate for now, because I really doubt you'll be ready for when the millions of people as intelligent and educated as myself and some of the others here put your faith to question in public. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 3:38am - Ekklesia ""] ArrowHead said:I've put in 7 YEARS of concentrated theological study, and even I would have great difficulty finding that substantial ground to launch ministry from. Why not keep your music and your message seperate for now, because I really doubt you'll be ready for when the millions of people as intelligent and educated as myself and some of the others here put your faith to question in public. Now whos the arrogant one? God Saved us! I'm not studied and I still know this God can care less about your education! God looks inward not outward! so look in mirror sometime I god sees you burning in hell with someone you think is your friend yourself and satan. so who knows more you and me or God! May Jesus's Blood cover your soul and spirit! satan sucks and he wants you to think you will live for eternity in a party. GUESS WHAT! NOT! ALL i GOT SAY! MEGIDDO WILL ROCK THE DEVILL OUT OF YOU! 777 :skull: DEATH TO SATAN! |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 3:42am - swamplorddvm ""] Ekklesia said:ArrowHead said:I've put in 7 YEARS of concentrated theological study, and even I would have great difficulty finding that substantial ground to launch ministry from. Why not keep your music and your message seperate for now, because I really doubt you'll be ready for when the millions of people as intelligent and educated as myself and some of the others here put your faith to question in public. Now whos the arrogant one? God Saved us! I'm not studied and I still know this God can care less about your education! God looks inward not outward! so look in mirror sometime I god sees you burning in hell with someone you think is your friend yourself and satan. so who knows more you and me or God! May Jesus's Blood cover your soul and spirit! satan sucks and he wants you to think you will live for eternity in a party. GUESS WHAT! NOT! ALL i GOT SAY! MEGIDDO WILL ROCK THE DEVILL OUT OF YOU! 777 :skull: DEATH TO SATAN! How do you KNOW "god" is real? |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 9:08am - InVitroCannibalization ""] Ekklesia said: InVitroCannibalization, who said christians dont sing about gore? we sing about the reality if you don't turn to Christ you wil burn for eternity in a fire forever as your skin is tortured for eternity it burns and the pain never ends. Forever you cant get out your head that this band tried to show you the truth satan wants you dead with him separated from God for eternity. in hell you have negitive feelings still you will yell, scream, shake, tremble, and smell flesh burning for eternity. you tell me we cant talk about gore. Where in my post did I even infer that Christians don't or can't sing about gore? Please inform me, because I did not say anything along those lines. In fact, I was completely supporting your stance by saying that I don't think that there is anything wrong or bad about a band singing about something that they are passionate about (i.e. Jesus). I will reiterate: "Personally, I don't understand why everyone is making such a big deal about this Christian band. Yeah, this obviously wasn't the best site to post (because 99% of the people who post here are anti-Christian), but at least they had the balls to stick up for their beliefs and not back-down, or just hurl ignorant insults, like most of the people here ended up doing to them. A lot of bands sing about what they are passionate about whether that be gore, decapitation, slaughter, love, sacrifice, food, faith...whatever, so what is so wrong or bad about a band that is passionate about Jesus? Is it wrong or bad just because it is different from the views of everyone else that posts here? I say MORE POWER TO YOU, but you won't find what you are looking for at this website. " P.S. Trying to reach unsaved souls by using the wrong approach (preaching) will backfire against you. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 12:09pm - Rex_Hartman ""] InVitroCannibalization said:Ekklesia said: InVitroCannibalization, who said christians dont sing about gore? we sing about the reality if you don't turn to Christ you wil burn for eternity in a fire forever as your skin is tortured for eternity it burns and the pain never ends. Forever you cant get out your head that this band tried to show you the truth satan wants you dead with him separated from God for eternity. in hell you have negitive feelings still you will yell, scream, shake, tremble, and smell flesh burning for eternity. you tell me we cant talk about gore. Where in my post did I even infer that Christians don't or can't sing about gore? Please inform me, because I did not say anything along those lines. In fact, I was completely supporting your stance by saying that I don't think that there is anything wrong or bad about a band singing about something that they are passionate about (i.e. Jesus). I will reiterate: "Personally, I don't understand why everyone is making such a big deal about this Christian band. Yeah, this obviously wasn't the best site to post (because 99% of the people who post here are anti-Christian), but at least they had the balls to stick up for their beliefs and not back-down, or just hurl ignorant insults, like most of the people here ended up doing to them. A lot of bands sing about what they are passionate about whether that be gore, decapitation, slaughter, love, sacrifice, food, faith...whatever, so what is so wrong or bad about a band that is passionate about Jesus? Is it wrong or bad just because it is different from the views of everyone else that posts here? I say MORE POWER TO YOU, but you won't find what you are looking for at this website. " P.S. Trying to reach unsaved souls by using the wrong approach (preaching) will backfire against you. The word of God does not return void. Remember that. The Holy Spirit is more powerful than you think. |
| ___________________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 12:15pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Rex_Hartman said:BestialOnslaught said:anonymous said:I don't REALLY understand why believing in someone who showed the greatest love of all is ignorance *SHRUG* but that's just me... asta Just shut the fuck up already. Don't tell her what to do. Why not? She's a stupid cunt. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 12:19pm - morkul ""] I had to see it for myself to believe it. Just too funny......... |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 14,2005 10:30pm - Rex_Hartman ""] Hey look at me I started this thread! </sarcasm> |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 25,2005 12:05am - Rex_Hartman ""] Revolution in my mind In my sleep, in my time You must be issued with vision Not too many last this long Conservative, soul life Straight way, extremist, revolutionary Born again christian I am revolutionary I'm of the old school I am a metal missionary I am a revolutionary!!! Watch out, New England. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 25,2005 12:34am - dan. ""] rex hartman is the lovechild of jack black and richard simmons. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 28,2005 1:32am - Rex_Hartman ""] well they do say i look like jack black, but richard simmons, pahlease. lol |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 28,2005 1:32am - ArmageddAnne ""] can we make this stupid post disappear now before I get mad? |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 2,2005 12:23am - anonymous ""] Awwwww is poooaaaaah wittle annie maddd????? ;) |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 2,2005 12:34am - ArmageddAnne ""] I'm speachless... |
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