WATCHMAKER (possibly last performance ever, featuring JOHN GILLIS of ANAL CUNT on drums)?[views:53023][posts:213]____________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 5:47pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] What a great thread. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 5:57pm - MarkKevorkian ""] the_reverend said:mr. mark fucking doesn't log in is right. I can see how people wouldn't like them. playing devils advocate: I can see how people listening to k.f.e wouldn't like them (it's a little noisey, the song's aren't structured the best, and the production seems to be way too compressed) I can see how people who saw them while they were writing erased from memory wouldn't like them. (a lot of the song's didn't seem to gel together right and some of the "high points" would come out like 5 guys just fucking around on stage.) some times people can't get into music when they see it if they don't understand it. these are the same people who don't understand why it's a party and everyone's invited when andrew WK plays. the new CD on the other hand. anyone how claims they like grindcore and doesn't like their CD either didn't listen to it and is just fronting, or really doesn't like grindcore and is a poser. either way, you are doing something that can only be described in street talk terms. this CD is awesome. Thanks man |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 5:58pm - MarkKevorkian ""] BornSoVile said:the new watchmaker is the album i've always wanted to hear from them. my appreciation for that band skyrocketed after I heard it. I appreciate it Josh, alot of alchohol went into making that album |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 6:10pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] I still don't have the new CD, supposed to get a few from Mark, I believe. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 6:20pm - Internet avenger ""] Moe is black, hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| _________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 6:24pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I like the shit on the Willowtip site. musically I like the first wooden box thing they did and I like this stuff on Willowtip but I really am not into the shtick. I saw them a while back cause Paul, who used to work at WUML (back then WJUL) was in it. Good songs, silly silliness with the gauntlets and stuff. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 6:33pm - Internet avenger ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:I like the shit on the Willowtip site. musically I like the first wooden box thing they did and I like this stuff on Willowtip but I really am not into the shtick. I saw them a while back cause Paul, who used to work at WUML (back then WJUL) was in it. Good songs, silly silliness with the gauntlets and stuff. almost as silly as your shitty band |
| _________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 6:40pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Internet avenger said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said:I like the shit on the Willowtip site. musically I like the first wooden box thing they did and I like this stuff on Willowtip but I really am not into the shtick. I saw them a while back cause Paul, who used to work at WUML (back then WJUL) was in it. Good songs, silly silliness with the gauntlets and stuff. almost as silly as your shitty band hahahh you're white how's it feel to have a tiny penis and no ability to dance? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:10pm - horror_tang ""] What MOE says goes if you have read the thread. If he says they are overrated then it must be true because he is an integral part of the scene and his opinions are highly valued and respected by all. Oh, Taste of Cigarettes. I do not care for you portrayal of all white people having tiny dicks and having the inability to dance. I CAN DANCE!!! Oh, a question. Who the hell is MOE anyway? Just curious. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:29pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] horror_tang said:What MOE says goes if you have read the thread. If he says they are overrated then it must be true because he is an integral part of the scene and his opinions are highly valued and respected by all. Oh, Taste of Cigarettes. I do not care for you portrayal of all white people having tiny dicks and having the inability to dance. I CAN DANCE!!! Oh, a question. Who the hell is MOE anyway? Just curious. moe was the drummer for Raising Kubrick after Pete left. He is also in War On Our Shores, Mortencia, and a couple of other bands. dude keeps busy. I can't dance, that's true, but I do ok in the wang department. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:41pm - the_reverend ""] nick's wang [img] I heard it even had a tape drive! |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:42pm - RichHorror ""] My wang is so small it's big. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:43pm - BornSoVile ""] and, as I've commented to Brian/Nick before, they're live sound is SO much better since Paul got that Metaltronix cab or whatever you call it. so much louder, nastier, in your facer. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:44pm - brian_dc ""] Moe is also in The Final Battle...a band with the vocalist and bassist from Deadwater Drowning, and the guitarist who finished up Deadwater Drowning none of you like them |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:44pm - brian_dc ""] I'm not a big fan of stage theatrics, but I'd be willing to open the mind for Watchmaker |
| _________________________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:47pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Aaron! I have been looking for a picture of a Wang for a while i keep making Wang jokes and then google image searching but you found one. nice! |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:48pm - BornSoVile ""] watchmaker's stage "theatrics" = feedback, beer cans on the stage, and a crazy singer who doesn't blink or close his eyes when he's singing. it's not that bad, trust me! |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:51pm - brian_dc ""] I just saw pictures of gauntlets and saws and stuff and got a little taken aback considering that they're a grind band...looked more black metal or gore by the pictures. But I picked up the CD on Rev's recommendation and think it's fucking great. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 7:52pm - RichHorror ""] I love how people talk about Watchmaker like its Alice Cooper. Brian wears spiked gauntlets and sometimes sings into a sawblade mic stand. It's called showmanship, look into it. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 8:05pm - brian_dc ""] I don't call that showmanship, it's just props...just not something I'm into...I wasn't calling them overrated for using props, I like them a lot and will look forward to seeing them live. meh, I'm done. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 8:06pm - badsneakers ""] I always dug Watchmaker but the new album elevated them to the point of greatness in my mind and forever solidified a spot in my record collection. But I'm just an asshole with an opinion just like the rest of you. Overrated, underrated, whatever...life is fine |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 8:08pm - RichHorror ""] The new album is the best thing they've ever done. it's as the same time their most chaotic and most cohesive disc. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 8:11pm - KeithMutiny ""] with just a scan through, I realise how retarded this thread has become. Yo, when you dudes play this show in Brooklyn, tell Mary that Throwing Shrapnel says whats up. and for the record i dig watchmaker, but anyone that knows my taste would already know that. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 18,2006 8:13pm - brian_dc ""] the thing that I loved about the Watchmaker CD was that I had absolutely no expectation whatsoever...I'm ignorant enough that I was never told what genre they were and I had forgotten about any sort of image behind them other than the album art and........ the cd sounded so fucking good that none of that genre shit even mattered. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 1:37am - armageddanne i Oslo ""] the_reverend said:mr. mark fucking doesn't log in is right. I can see how people wouldn't like them. playing devils advocate: I can see how people listening to k.f.e wouldn't like them (it's a little noisey, the song's aren't structured the best, and the production seems to be way too compressed) I can see how people who saw them while they were writing erased from memory wouldn't like them. (a lot of the song's didn't seem to gel together right and some of the "high points" would come out like 5 guys just fucking around on stage.) some times people can't get into music when they see it if they don't understand it. these are the same people who don't understand why it's a party and everyone's invited when andrew WK plays. the new CD on the other hand. anyone how claims they like grindcore and doesn't like their CD either didn't listen to it and is just fronting, or really doesn't like grindcore and is a poser. either way, you are doing something that can only be described in street talk terms. this CD is awesome. That thingy about grindcore I'm not so sure about, I guess it depends what you call grindcore, cause from what I've heard of American grindcore is totally different from the kind of grind I grew up on. That is I will go check the Willowtip website and try to catch a Watchmaker MP3 to edge my oppinion a bit. I'm a fucking grind freak and I dont like the first Watchmaker CD, and I'm sorry, no, I'm not a poser. ....time to go look for a job now, I will listen to the MP3 later today. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 19,2006 8:54am - Mary ""] armageddanne i Oslo said:the_reverend said:mr. mark fucking doesn't log in is right. I can see how people wouldn't like them. playing devils advocate: I can see how people listening to k.f.e wouldn't like them (it's a little noisey, the song's aren't structured the best, and the production seems to be way too compressed) I can see how people who saw them while they were writing erased from memory wouldn't like them. (a lot of the song's didn't seem to gel together right and some of the "high points" would come out like 5 guys just fucking around on stage.) some times people can't get into music when they see it if they don't understand it. these are the same people who don't understand why it's a party and everyone's invited when andrew WK plays. the new CD on the other hand. anyone how claims they like grindcore and doesn't like their CD either didn't listen to it and is just fronting, or really doesn't like grindcore and is a poser. either way, you are doing something that can only be described in street talk terms. this CD is awesome. That thingy about grindcore I'm not so sure about, I guess it depends what you call grindcore, cause from what I've heard of American grindcore is totally different from the kind of grind I grew up on. That is I will go check the Willowtip website and try to catch a Watchmaker MP3 to edge my oppinion a bit. I'm a fucking grind freak and I dont like the first Watchmaker CD, and I'm sorry, no, I'm not a poser. ....time to go look for a job now, I will listen to the MP3 later today. this is Brad Mark is in Watchmaker, so by default you have to hate it and not help get them any shows. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 9:05am - watchmaker666 ""] hey brad, you really are a Mary aren't you |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 9:16am - armageddanne i Oslo ""] Mary said:armageddanne i Oslo said:the_reverend said:mr. mark fucking doesn't log in is right. I can see how people wouldn't like them. playing devils advocate: I can see how people listening to k.f.e wouldn't like them (it's a little noisey, the song's aren't structured the best, and the production seems to be way too compressed) I can see how people who saw them while they were writing erased from memory wouldn't like them. (a lot of the song's didn't seem to gel together right and some of the "high points" would come out like 5 guys just fucking around on stage.) some times people can't get into music when they see it if they don't understand it. these are the same people who don't understand why it's a party and everyone's invited when andrew WK plays. the new CD on the other hand. anyone how claims they like grindcore and doesn't like their CD either didn't listen to it and is just fronting, or really doesn't like grindcore and is a poser. either way, you are doing something that can only be described in street talk terms. this CD is awesome. That thingy about grindcore I'm not so sure about, I guess it depends what you call grindcore, cause from what I've heard of American grindcore is totally different from the kind of grind I grew up on. That is I will go check the Willowtip website and try to catch a Watchmaker MP3 to edge my oppinion a bit. I'm a fucking grind freak and I dont like the first Watchmaker CD, and I'm sorry, no, I'm not a poser. ....time to go look for a job now, I will listen to the MP3 later today. this is Brad Mark is in Watchmaker, so by default you have to hate it and not help get them any shows. This is exactly what's going in my fucked up mind and I swear I will do whatever I can and spend all the energy I have to make sure they get no shows...staying up late at night and waking up wicked early in the morning to deal with the 6 hours time zone. I will make their lifes and my life a living hell, New Years resolution. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 9:26am - armageddanne i Oslo ""] I just listened to the MP3s, and I defenitely like it more than the first album, for sure. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 9:31am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] armageddanne i Oslo said:I just listened to the MP3s, and I defenitely like it more than the first album, for sure. it will just be that much more bittersweet when you block them from getting any shows! |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 9:42am - HHH MOE ""] armageddanne i Oslo said:....time to go look for a job now, I will listen to the MP3 later today. Yeah, go find a job you hippy. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 10:34am - armageddanne i Oslo ""] HHH MOE said:armageddanne i Oslo said:....time to go look for a job now, I will listen to the MP3 later today. Yeah, go find a job you hippy. Dont call me hippy that drives me mad...you wimp. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 10:35am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Anne, tisk tisk |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 10:39am - MarkKevorkian ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:I like the shit on the Willowtip site. musically I like the first wooden box thing they did and I like this stuff on Willowtip but I really am not into the shtick. I saw them a while back cause Paul, who used to work at WUML (back then WJUL) was in it. Good songs, silly silliness with the gauntlets and stuff. What the fuck are you talking about shtick. What because of gauntlets and a saw. How about the music? |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 10:44am - Messerschmitt ""] didn't you know? skinny little vegan is the only way to be? stage presence man. it's all about stage presence. |
| __________________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 10:44am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] MarkKevorkian said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said:I like the shit on the Willowtip site. musically I like the first wooden box thing they did and I like this stuff on Willowtip but I really am not into the shtick. I saw them a while back cause Paul, who used to work at WUML (back then WJUL) was in it. Good songs, silly silliness with the gauntlets and stuff. What the fuck are you talking about shtick. What because of gauntlets and a saw. How about the music? I already commented on the music I said I like it but I don't like the shtick. I saw you guys at the Middle East a while back and the singer was all dressed up and acting like a rabid viking. It detracted from the real power of the music and just made me confused. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 11:12am - watchmaker666 ""] this thread is just getting weird. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 11:40am - dreadkill ""] rabid vikings rule. how could that detract from the music? do you want him to just stand there? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 11:49am - anonymous ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:MarkKevorkian said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said:I like the shit on the Willowtip site. musically I like the first wooden box thing they did and I like this stuff on Willowtip but I really am not into the shtick. I saw them a while back cause Paul, who used to work at WUML (back then WJUL) was in it. Good songs, silly silliness with the gauntlets and stuff. I said I like it but I don't like the shtick. I saw you guys at the Middle East a while back and the singer was all dressed up and acting like a rabid viking. It detracted from the real power of the music and just made me confused. i have to agree 100%...the whole gautlets bullet belt and saw took everything away from the music for me. it just made everything seem really stupid and comical. I actually went to the back ot the Middle East because i thought was going to start laughing. |
| __________________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 11:49am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I'd rather he take his music seriously |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 11:50am - mOe nli ""] that was me by the way ^^ |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 12:01pm - Josh_Martin ""] Moe the moron said: i have to agree 100%...the whole gautlets bullet belt and saw took everything away from the music for me. it just made everything seem really stupid and comical. I actually went to the back ot the Middle East because i thought was going to start laughing. Uh, most people were laughing. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY you complete idiot. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 12:02pm - Josh_Martin ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:I'd rather he take his music seriously So, toungue-in-cheekly wearing 80's metal gear means the music isn't taken seriously? You are an ass. If you had come up in the 80's you would've gotten beat up a lot by Slayer fans. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 12:04pm - watchmaker666 ""] The people have spoken, nothing but girl jeans and "ironic" metal shirts from now on! and Ill talk to Brian and tell him to look bored on stage from now on |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 12:24pm - Anthony nli ""] Anyone who doesn't see that the saw and gauntlets and looking like a rabid viking is awesome, really doesn't get metal. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 12:27pm - Anthony nli ""] also, imo, if you're an extreme metal band, especially a grind band, you're really not doing shit if you're not intense like Watchmaker are. Why stand there trying to look "serious"? You're supposed to look like you're ready to bite someone in the crowd's head off. just my two cents. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 12:28pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] mOe nli said:i have to agree 100%...the whole gautlets bullet belt and saw took everything away from the music for me. it just made everything seem really stupid and comical. Stick twirling does the same thing for me. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 1:19pm - mOe nli ""] watchmaker666 said:The people have spoken, nothing but girl jeans and "ironic" metal shirts from now on! and Ill talk to Brian and tell him to look bored on stage from now on who said anything about that stuff...i dont wear shit like that when i play, and i i sure as shit dont look bored...i'm sorry if i like my music gimmck free, its just the post/punk rock in me |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 1:34pm - watchmaker666 ""] OK fair enough man. I'm really sick of this thread, my original point was completely lost so lets just agree to disagree and let it die. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 19,2006 1:36pm - brian_dc ""] this is an odd argument...there are plenty of ways of not looking bored without wearing gauntlets. oh wait, I don't care anymore...that's right. |