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vital remains @ the palladium, the recap thread

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the Palladium (Worcester, Ma) - [burn_my_remains][cannae][incantation][porphyria][randomshots][rumpelstiltskin_grinder][skulltoboggan][vital_remains]
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[Dec 18,2005 2:59pm - dreadkill ""]
Joe/NotCommon said:Look at the kid in the crowd there, totally disapointed that Kenny fucked over Rumpelstiltskin Grinder.


he looks really devastated about it.
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[Dec 18,2005 3:16pm - BornSoVile ""]
goratory nli said:i hate to say it because everyone knows how i fell about Kenny but that is alot more people than when i went to go see incantation last time at upstairs with Hate Eternal and Krisian.


aside from that, where the fuck were all these people before dechristianize???? aside from the metalfest a few years back they've unfortunately never really been pulling numbers like this. good to see them get some respect, if only people would stop thinking about dechristianize and check out the rest of the catalog.

I spoke with the tour manager who reported said "kenny put my stress level through the roof and won't be allowed to do shows like this again".

I'm not gonna pull a huge I told you so on anyone. I just hope people understand what I was talking about and are now fully aware of his bullshit. I encourage all to join the boycott.
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[Dec 18,2005 3:41pm - CNV  ""]
Someone should knock the rest of his teeth out...
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[Dec 18,2005 3:41pm - brian_dc ""]
BornSoVile said:aside from that, where the fuck were all these people before dechristianize???? aside from the metalfest a few years back they've unfortunately never really been pulling numbers like this. good to see them get some respect, if only people would stop thinking about dechristianize and check out the rest of the catalog.



I heard these guys for the first time like 6 years ago when I heard Forever Underground...I still haven't gone back further in the catalog...what's the best of the oldest stuff if I was to go one album at a time?
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[Dec 18,2005 3:49pm - Philonymous  ""]
CarrotsandSticks said:[img]

YES!! I'm so glad you got a picture of this guy! He's the fuckin man! I see him at shows all the time bouncing and shit! I want to give him a high five.



this guys is my hero
I seen him at Suffocation lat summer

he was going nuts
dude has more enery then me and he as a good 50-60 years on me haha
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[Dec 18,2005 5:06pm - we will only hate  ""]
Joe/NotCommon said:Look at the kid in the crowd there, totally disapointed that Kenny fucked over Rumpelstiltskin Grinder.


haha thats me dude. i wasn't dissapointed about anything other then being so drunk and having no food or water in me that i felt like shit. rumplestilskin grinder IMO sucked. i was there to see porphyria and vital.

i seen that dude kenny there i was like i wish josh was here so he could beat him down and i could watch. that didnt happen josh you asshole!!
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[Dec 18,2005 5:50pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""]
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this shot is so melancholy
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[Dec 18,2005 6:14pm - BMR  ""]
BornSoVile said: I'm not gonna pull a huge I told you so on anyone. I just hope people understand what I was talking about and are now fully aware of his bullshit. I encourage all to join the boycott.


You can throw my name on that list, I wish I could speak for my whole band but they're not with me and I have to much respect for those kids to speak on their behalves. After witnessing what he did to Rumplestilskin Grinder, Mr. Lanning needs to find a new line of work. He promised them a money order, which you and I both know they will probably never see, and then tried to give us the same run around about sending us one as well. We didn't expect to get paid for this, the experience was worth its weight in gold, but when he told me he wanted to send us money I told him exaclty what anyone else would say, "Kenny, you can tell me this shit all day, I know for a fact I won't see a penny" Fuck him and fuck what he does, he should just kill himself like he always says hes going to.
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[Dec 18,2005 6:16pm - BMR  ""]
I will give the kid this though, if he did somehow try and fuck over Vital, he's got a pair because I wouldn't fuck with those dudes if I had to.
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[Dec 18,2005 6:45pm - the_reverend ""]
first off, seeing the age of the kids that were in the front row and how much they were into that music, I have absolutely NO fear in the future bands and fans in the metal community.

Burn My Remains: they sounded really good. especially from the lobby which is where I listened to most of their set waiting to go in. they played great and the crowd was good for them. one of their friends sang along a lot and they had some moshing going on.
just out of curiosity, which band members post here and under what names?

skulltoboggan: the bass player from the last time I saw them moved to drums. and then got a new bassplayer. it was the guy from lucubro (spelling?). even they knew that they were the odd band on the bill, but they sold a bunch of tickets and the crowd seemed to like them. they are very good guys. I'm actually surprised after our one meeting at killfest that the singer remembered both my and my gf's name. they played good and were one of two bands with a smoke machine. they also had a friend come in at the end of their set and sing with them.

rumpelstiltskin grinder: they absolutely ruled. I've seen them 3 times now and they've gotten better and better each time. the crowd was completely into them and they played to the audience very well. they may have almost stole the show. Seriously. I haven't heard the new CD at all, bust compared to the other times I saw them, it's almost like it was a completely different band. Anyone that didn't like them the other times they played or didn't like the CD, show have seen them last night. Afterward, I got to hear about all the band incest that went on with them from the guitar player, ryan. Mostly with devine rapture and xxx maniac.

Porphyria: they were really good. the guitars we hard to discern for most of the set, same with the bass. I could see shawn doing something, but couldn't really hear it. I still think porphyria should pay for that kid's golden wrists to get them fixed. then blue could play bass (since he just spent 3 weeks pay in daddy's bucks on bass gear) and one kid could do then entire solo on frailties of humanity. anyhow, they did play awesome. blue came out and played after the first song or two. their music is very in-your-face death metal, on par with dew-scented. live, this makes the crowd move.. maybe it's the one break down or maybe it's all the football riffs. the front of the crowd was throwing horns and behind, people moshed about the floor like metal assholes. at one point, tim went down into the crowd. I'm pretty sure the guys in the front would have pulled him in to the pit if he hadn't gone in first. speaking of tim, he's trying to get the band signed so no suicidal tendencies gear this show. he was in full metalcore close; camo and jean.

cannae: I can sum up the tail part of their set with this:
"I got pretty good balance for a big guy" - steve a couple hours before the show.
during one of the new songs, I think it was the last one they played, he stepped up on the monitor and like I've seen a million times upstairs there, he went down hard. slide right down on his belly, breaking his guitar some how so the new guy, Alex, was the only one left playing. I'm pretty sure that part of the song, they go back and forth so it was quite noticeable. still, he grabbed his other guitar out of a case and was back playing with in 30 seconds. I thought their set came off really well. the new stuff is so metal and they only play metal tracks of the last CD. though if they read this, I think they should play a track off trouble shooting death.

incantation: speaking of falling. jon ALMOST went down. he and joe move around a lot and their cables spooled up on over a bunch of other cables. he stepped on them and slipped, but didn't miss the mic and kept going. you could see him laughing at himself. I was so happy to see joe on stage with them. he adds a lot to the stage presence. When they played the palladium last, that guy (I think) from the chasm was on bass. He just sort of stood there. With the real line up, they moved around a lot. I’ve never seen them doing that mic on either side of the stage for jon to play on both sides. I give that a thumbs up. Especially cause jon had 2 ½ stacks on one side of the stage, going through a stereo simulator to another stack on the other side of the stage. They mostly played new tracks and going cut a tad early. They were going to play an older song that people from the audience were yelling for. All in all, they sounded good, but I sort of prefer listening to their CDs.

Vital Remains: unholy poop stick. They have easily found their best singer yet. He fit in perfectly and was able to do everything that the other singers did. He even did the Benton parts better than Glenn did. Anthony is kind of stuck in a spot with them though. This COMPLETELY reminds me of the situation that Greg was in when he joined Dillinger Escape Plan after the mike patton EP. He’s expected to cover all the other singer’s stiles so you aren’t sure how he will sound on his own. The only difference in this case is that the record label is pressuring vital to put Benton in the next CD. Face it, his name sells, Anthony’s doesn’t. I think that they would be crazy not to keep him though. I’m looking forward to a CD with his own lyrics/vocals on it. Last night was such a great show. The entire set, Tony (the 666 guitarist for those who live in a cave) wore his leather football uniform and didn’t even look like he was sweating. Dave (the other guitarist) played all the leads and Tony just did rhythm on everything (except one of the dechristianize songs he did the lead part of about 10 seconds). Tim Yeung was their drummer. As far as I knew, he is mostly a session drummer. When I was in the back, the other guys were all yelling at him for messing up. I kept thinking that they were so pissed cause he’s being paid for this show. Towards the end of their set, they did a vader cover which was absolutely sick. Anthony sounded just like peter. Crazy range. They played mostly stuff from Dechristianized and one track off forever underground. Other than that, I’m not sure. I didn’t see a set list sitting anywhere.
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[Dec 18,2005 7:00pm - BMR  ""]
the_reverend said:first off, seeing the age of the kids that were in the front row and how much they were into that music, I have absolutely NO fear in the future bands and fans in the metal community.

Burn My Remains: they sounded really good. especially from the lobby which is where I listened to most of their set waiting to go in. they played great and the crowd was good for them. one of their friends sang along a lot and they had some moshing going on.
just out of curiosity, which band members post here and under what names?\QUOTE]

I do occasionally, I play drums. One of our guitarists posts under the name HungToBleed.


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[Dec 18,2005 7:01pm - the_reverend ""]
which one is hung to bleed?
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[Dec 18,2005 7:02pm - BMR  ""]
Uhhhh....looking at the stage he's on the right, short hair.
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[Dec 18,2005 7:07pm - the_reverend ""]
oh ok. just trying to put faces to bands.
sorry I didn't get back there to shoot shots of you.
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[Dec 18,2005 7:09pm - BMR  ""]
No worries man, I'm not the most photogenic person in the world anyways. I got a cold and I was shootin shit out of my nose our whole set, it was probably for the better.
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[Dec 18,2005 8:05pm - hungta‘bleed  ""]
BMR said:You can throw my name on that list, I wish I could speak for my whole band but they're not with me and I have to much respect for those kids to speak on their behalves.


I don't know who's approval your lookin for bro, but I'm pretty sure the fact that we want to cease all business ties with this crack head is a mutual agreement. besides,other than you and I, who else makes any real decisions on our behalf?:krusty:
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Sick job with the pictures rev....as always.
But yea...thats me.
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[Dec 18,2005 8:07pm - ArrowHead nli  ""]
anonymous said:

shit like this pisses me off! yes incan and vital should be paid because they have a tour bus to keep gassed up,,the others the "local" bands i'll tell you what they got ,they got to open for 2 incredible bands and spread thier name a little more! that should be enough!!!i mean really!!!i am so fuckin sick of reading this shit,if you dont do it because you love it,hit the fuckin road....this me me me attitude is whats destroyed what 13 years or so ago was a great thing,,when bands where happy just to get to see there favorites for free.......in closing,,you make me sick



Vital Remains had to make the loooong haaaard trek from providence. What's that, a 40 minute drive? Meanwhile Porphyria drove all the way from NH. Your logic is flawed. Yes, only the headliners should get guarantees, since they're the drawing bands, but out of state bands in general should always at LEAST get some gas money.

When you actually have a clue what the fuck you're talking about, feel free to post again. Until then, go back to making pizzas, Kenny.

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[Dec 18,2005 8:22pm - BMR  ""]
ArrowHead nli said:anonymous said:

shit like this pisses me off! yes incan and vital should be paid because they have a tour bus to keep gassed up,,the others the "local" bands i'll tell you what they got ,they got to open for 2 incredible bands and spread thier name a little more! that should be enough!!!i mean really!!!i am so fuckin sick of reading this shit,if you dont do it because you love it,hit the fuckin road....this me me me attitude is whats destroyed what 13 years or so ago was a great thing,,when bands where happy just to get to see there favorites for free.......in closing,,you make me sick





When you actually have a clue what the fuck you're talking about, feel free to post again. Until then, go back to making pizzas, Kenny.




The fact that the kid was walking around in a Papa Gino's hat all night makes that remark even funnier.

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[Dec 18,2005 8:31pm - hungta‘bleed  ""]
I would never consider eating food that was prepared by kenny. There should be discimination in food industry work places to discourage crack heads like him from working there.
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[Dec 18,2005 8:43pm - ArrowHead nli  ""]
BMR said:

The fact that the kid was walking around in a Papa Gino's hat all night makes that remark even funnier.





Wasn't meant to be funny. He makes pizza for a living.

Of course, so do I.


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[Dec 18,2005 8:48pm - the_reverend ""]
and so do terrance from ascendancy.. er.. when he's not beeding horses.
Kenny smelled like pizza too.
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[Dec 18,2005 8:54pm - ArrowHead nli  ""]
Actually, Terrance was a delivery driver. He didn't make the pizzas.
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[Dec 18,2005 9:28pm - the_reverend ""]
that's probably for the best.
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[Dec 18,2005 10:15pm - BornSoVile ""]
Kenny told me he details cars at ODESA (a repo plant). You sure he works at papa vagina's? I go to the waverly street one in framingham at least once a week and havn't seen him, although there are 2 others in framingham.
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[Dec 18,2005 10:31pm - hungta‘bleed  ""]
BornSoVile said:Kenny told me he details cars at ODESA (a repo plant). You sure he works at papa vagina's? I go to the waverly street one in framingham at least once a week and havn't seen him, although there are 2 others in framingham.

It's ADESA, and I used to work there. A time long before I ever knew kenny, I worked at that place but in a different area. It is a car auction, and he apparently works in the 'recon' area where they feverishly wash cars all day. He is probably the only one who speaks english there. It is a fucking terrible job that only pays $10/hr. He also told me that he has 2 jobs, but hey, didn't he also say he quit drinking too??

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[Dec 18,2005 10:43pm - i_am_not_me ""]
...how embarassed I am...all this time I was talking with my girlfriend about how much ass Suzuki kicked on the drums...and he was playing guitar. (He kicked just as much ass on guitar, though.) Easy mistake when you've never seen what a band looks like before, though, I suppose.
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[Dec 18,2005 10:44pm - ArrowHead nli  ""]
BornSoVile said:Kenny told me he details cars at ODESA (a repo plant). You sure he works at papa vagina's? I go to the waverly street one in framingham at least once a week and havn't seen him, although there are 2 others in framingham.



He had a job making pizza in Natick. Not sure where, but definately not Papa Gino's.

It's ME that works at gino's.
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[Dec 18,2005 10:45pm - brian_dc ""]
he does kick ass on drums

he plays drums on all of the albums. But he also plays all the lead guitar on the albums.

and live he plays guitar.


the end.
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[Dec 18,2005 11:17pm - the_reverend ""]
he also plays bass on all the CDs that I know of...
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[Dec 18,2005 11:17pm - brian_dc ""]
true
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[Dec 19,2005 6:39am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I hope that they use Anthony on the next CD.
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[Dec 19,2005 7:08am - MorbidMike BMR Bass  ""]
BornSoVile said:home and fuming. said:200?!? Try 170 plus the band members. Looks like your little boycot worked, assholes!XO
I know skulltoboggan pre-sold the most tickets. Most of the rest came from Strawberries.

Anyhow, this will be the last Lenny kanning show at the Paladium. It also probably puts a damper on metal shows upstairs period. Let's see why:
Incantation was promised $2000 for this show. there was basically nothing for them and the house paid them what they could from beer sales which were actually good.
Vital, same deal as INCAN..
Porphyria got nothing.
Skullt got nothing.
BMR got nothing.


Josh you don't have to say i told you so I am just gald people know who we are know becuase now we can say fuck Kenny and not get totally alienated because of it so on the half of BMR FUCK KENNY LANNING . I feel bad for the dudes from Rumplestiltskin Grinder they were cool dudes and did'nt even get gas money SO FUCK KENNY!!
the Worst got nothing.
Not sure about Cannae and RG, but the out look isn't so good. :-(

On top of all that, Mr. Lanning took off and left the Paladium staffers to deal with it.



who are you?



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[Dec 19,2005 7:10am - MorbidMike BMR Bass  ""]
SacreligionNLI said:whiskey_weed_and_women said:i dont remember dr. death from wwf, who the hell was he


he was JR's protege for a little while...he did the oklahoma slam i remember that much



Dr Death Steve Williams!
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[Dec 19,2005 7:15am - MorbidMike BMR Bass  ""]
the_reverend said:which one is hung to bleed?


YO Rev I Play Bass for BMR I post as Morbid Mike...?
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[Dec 19,2005 7:31am - the_reverend ""]
is that really a question?
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[Dec 19,2005 7:38am - MorbidMike BMR Bass  ""]
Not at all I really don't know why I put the ?. Wait I know it's Monday at 7:15 and my back still hurts from getting spin kicked during Porphyria. So all in all AWESOME WEEKEND and I FEEL GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREat!Thanks Rev sick pics of us ripping it up I am no longer an RTTP virgin!Oh and by the way Kenny sucks!But...everyone knows this!
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[Dec 19,2005 8:35am - the_reverend ""]
I was walking through the pit during um.. I think incantation and someone threw both hands backwards, taping me right under the balls. that is the first time that happened.. I don't want to do that again.
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[Dec 19,2005 8:38am - SacreligionNLI  ""]
i hate getting taped right under the balls too...it rips out too much hair
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[Dec 19,2005 8:42am - dftg  ""]
hungta‘bleed said:I would never consider eating food that was prepared by kenny. There should be discimination in food industry work places to discourage crack heads like him from working there.


My advice to you is that you should never, ever eat at the Olive Garden.
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[Dec 19,2005 8:42am - RustedAngel ""]
BornSoVile said: KENNY LANNING CAN SUCK MY DICK.


that's disgusting, you like toothless bj's?!
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[Dec 19,2005 8:45am - SacreligionNLI  ""]
kenny lanning once asked my sister out on a date, claiming he was an excellent cook because he cooked at friendly's at the time

true story
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[Dec 19,2005 8:46am - RustedAngel ""]
home and fuming. said:200?!? Try 170 plus the band members. Looks like your little boycot worked, assholes!XO
I know skulltoboggan pre-sold the most tickets. Most of the rest came from Strawberries.

Anyhow, this will be the last Lenny kanning show at the Paladium. It also probably puts a damper on metal shows upstairs period. Let's see why:
Incantation was promised $2000 for this show. there was basically nothing for them and the house paid them what they could from beer sales which were actually good.
Vital, same deal as INCAN..
Porphyria got nothing.
Skullt got nothing.
BMR got nothing.
the Worst got nothing.
Not sure about Cannae and RG, but the out look isn't so good. :-(

On top of all that, Mr. Lanning took off and left the Paladium staffers to deal with it.



you're a retard, there's no way incantation would ever get $2,000 for a show...if they have for some reason that's beyond any reason I can think of. They haven't been a good band since diabolical conquest.

Also, Mass Concerts took this show over long before Kenny left the show anyways. He probably had to take a bus home or something since he has no transportation.
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[Dec 19,2005 8:49am - RustedAngel ""]
BornSoVile said:Can anyone else confirm anything? It's pretty brutal that Skulltobogin sold the most tickets, did Kenny actually make bands do that???


Porphyria did not have to pre-sell any tickets.
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[Dec 19,2005 8:50am - succubus ""]
home and fuming is not a retard...kenny promised incantation that money...both aaron and i spoke to massconcerts
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[Dec 19,2005 8:53am - dftg  ""]
SacreligionNLI said:kenny lanning once asked my sister out on a date, claiming he was an excellent cook because he cooked at friendly's at the time

true story




Cooking at Friendly's does not make you a good cook. It doesn't take any talent or even much knowledge of food to throw a burger on a grill.
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[Dec 19,2005 8:56am - SacreligionNLI  ""]
that's what makes it hilarious
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[Dec 19,2005 8:57am - SacreligionNLI  ""]
succubus said:home and fuming is not a retard...kenny promised incantation that money...both aaron and i spoke to massconcerts


i can't believe people are capable of such bullshit...is he really a brilliant scam artist or an immoral forrest gump?
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[Dec 19,2005 9:10am - BMR  ""]
Calling that guy Forrest Gump still gives him to much credit
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[Dec 19,2005 9:20am - RustedAngel ""]
succubus said:home and fuming is not a retard...kenny promised incantation that money...both aaron and i spoke to massconcerts


show us the contract where incantation was garuanteed $2,000 and I'll believe it.
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[Dec 19,2005 9:30am - toothlessagressor  ""]
Hey Fuck you guys I work at Papa Ginos and have no teeth and on top of that I lick balls and me and Forest are tight. Dame where's my credit I put together a good show and paid noone and made no money so.........does that make sense! Honostly Kenny is an idiot why does he smoke so much crack!Thats's why he puts these shows on to support his crack habbit god knows it's not to get his teeth fixed.

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