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top five overated and underated metal bands

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[Aug 7,2005 8:10am - brokenclown ""]
underrated:

kreator
testament
sodom




overated:
cradle of filth
dimmu borgir


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[Aug 7,2005 9:49am - dreadkill ""]
overrated:
mercyful fate
death
slayer
iron maiden
mayhem

underrated:
metallica
korn
slipknot
limp bizkit
killswitch
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[Aug 7,2005 10:18am - jesus_slavesNLI  ""]
um.....i think you mixed up your over and under understanding. i dont think you mean that korn and limp bizkit are underrated.
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[Aug 7,2005 10:27am - jesus_slavesNLI  ""]
overrated:

Arch Enemy
Cradle of Filth
HIM
The Black Dahlia Murder
Unearth
Children of Bodom

underrated:

Dimmu Borgir
Old Man's Child
Godflesh
Black Harvest
Nevermore
Dragonlord
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[Aug 7,2005 11:12am - Cecchini ""]
Overrated:
Soilwork
Unearth
Killswitch
Lamb of God
3 Headed Monster

Underrated:
NORTHER
Jag Panzer
Old Mans Child
Dark Tranquility
3 Headed Monster
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[Aug 7,2005 11:24am - babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in  ""]
overrated:
HIM
cradle of filth
meshuggah
killswitch engage

underated:
heavenly
abyssos
gorerotted
fintroll
(i could go on wiht this side of the list forever)
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[Aug 7,2005 11:26am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
overrated:
music


Underated:
child pornography
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[Aug 7,2005 11:30am - dreadkill ""]
jesus_slavesNLI said:um.....i think you mixed up your over and under understanding. i dont think you mean that korn and limp bizkit are underrated.


i was being sarcastic
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[Aug 7,2005 12:09pm - Distrust-Kevin ""]
OVERRATED:

Morbid Angel (satan can lick my ass crack)
Hatebreed
Nile
Motorhead
Cannibal Corpse

UNDERRATED

Napalm Death
Agnostic Front
Primal Fear
HCN, LAZ, POR
The Step Kings
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[Aug 7,2005 12:11pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Motorhead is overrated?

It's not like they are some band that has critical acclaim, just a massive cult following.
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[Aug 7,2005 12:13pm - Distrust-Kevin ""]
I know lots of people will disagree with my list, just my opinion is all. Never cared much for motorhead.
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[Aug 7,2005 12:23pm - blue ""]
jesus_slavesNLI said:
underrated:

Dimmu Borgir
Old Man's Child
Godflesh
Black Harvest
Nevermore
Dragonlord



youve got to be kidding me. dimmu is underrated?
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[Aug 7,2005 12:28pm - xmikex ""]
overrated:
Opeth
Children of Bodom
Arch Enemy
Carnal Forge
BLACK DAHLIA MURDER

Underrated:
The Crown
Dysentery
Dripping
Phobia
Anyone but the Black Dahlia Murder, who make Joe Christianni look like pure concentrated heterosexuality.

I'm just kidding.....Black Dahlia Murder and Joe Christianni are both obscenely fucking gay.
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[Aug 7,2005 12:30pm - xmikex ""]
blue said:jesus_slavesNLI said:


youve got to be kidding me. dimmu is underrated?



Agreed. Even old Dimmu was just a rave with corpse paint. And now they're huge.
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[Aug 7,2005 12:32pm - blue ""]
xmikex said:Underrated:
Dripping

best thing ever said.

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[Aug 7,2005 12:41pm - babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in  ""]
lol agnostic front is horrible
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[Aug 7,2005 12:55pm - the dude  ""]
every band is overated if you think about it
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[Aug 7,2005 1:13pm - Dissector ""]
Overrated:
Every band on Metalblade

Underrated:
Every band I like
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[Aug 7,2005 1:36pm - BornSoVile ""]
Overrated
Necrophagist
Unearth
Avenge Sevenfold
Atreyu
Bleeding Through

Underrated
Bathory
Dissection
Origin
Master
Nunslaughter
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[Aug 7,2005 2:31pm - Dissector ""]
BornSoVile said:Overrated
Necrophagist
Unearth
Avenge Sevenfold
Atreyu
Bleeding Through

Underrated
Bathory
Dissection
Origin
Master
Nunslaughter



Master is probably the most underrated band.
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[Aug 7,2005 2:45pm - Wha?  ""]
babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in said:overrated:
HIM
cradle of filth
meshuggah
killswitch engage

underated:
heavenly
abyssos
gorerotted
fintroll
(i could go on wiht this side of the list forever)



Haha, Meshuggah is overrated yet Fintroll is underrated? Fuck is wrong with you fruit?

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[Aug 7,2005 2:46pm - attendmyrequiem ""]
overrated:
as the sun sets
bury your dead
terror
throwdown


underrated:
Mouth of the Architect
Ion Dissonance
Disarmonia Mundi
Textures

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[Aug 7,2005 3:14pm - BornSoVile ""]
Dissector said:BornSoVile said:Overrated
Necrophagist
Unearth
Avenge Sevenfold
Atreyu
Bleeding Through

Underrated
Bathory
Dissection
Origin
Master
Nunslaughter



Master is probably the most underrated band.



*Nod*
I only put Dissection cause Alex played "Thorns of Crimson Death" at HMB 2 weeks ago..I asked 8-10 people if they knew who it was and, NOBODY knew. wtf!
Oh Necrophagist is fucking boring, really really really boring songwriting, nothing particuarly memorable. I need to check out their first album, maybe that'll change my mind.
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[Aug 7,2005 4:55pm - dyingmuse ""]
overrated

motorhead
ozzy
cradle
dimmu
darkthrone
arch enemy
at the gates
cryptopsy
opeth
Meshuggah

underrated

morgion
king diamond
the third and the mortal
septic flesh
shape of despair
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[Aug 7,2005 4:56pm - eddie ""]
motorhead isn't a metal band!
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[Aug 7,2005 5:18pm - BornSoVile ""]
Honorable mentions for Underrated
Repulsion
Terrorizer
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[Aug 7,2005 5:23pm - Dissector ""]
BornSoVile said:Dissector said:BornSoVile said:Overrated
Necrophagist
Unearth
Avenge Sevenfold
Atreyu
Bleeding Through

Underrated
Bathory
Dissection
Origin
Master
Nunslaughter



Master is probably the most underrated band.



*Nod*
I only put Dissection cause Alex played "Thorns of Crimson Death" at HMB 2 weeks ago..I asked 8-10 people if they knew who it was and, NOBODY knew. wtf!
Oh Necrophagist is fucking boring, really really really boring songwriting, nothing particuarly memorable. I need to check out their first album, maybe that'll change my mind.




Finally somebody else agrees with my hate towards Necrophagist. He's got technicallity but the song writing is boring and it sucks.
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[Aug 7,2005 5:26pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
under rated:
Aborym
GBK
Order From Chaos
Hades
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[Aug 7,2005 5:33pm - the kadooganator  ""]
dyingmuse said:
overrated
cryptopsy



you're only saying that because Lord Worm called your band boring
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[Aug 7,2005 5:42pm - babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in  ""]
Wha? said:babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in said:overrated:
HIM
cradle of filth
meshuggah
killswitch engage

underated:
heavenly
abyssos
gorerotted
fintroll
(i could go on wiht this side of the list forever)



Haha, Meshuggah is overrated yet Fintroll is underrated? Fuck is wrong with you fruit?




fintroll is way better than meshuggah i dont know who your callin a fruit
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[Aug 7,2005 5:59pm - Distrust-Kevin ""]
oh yeah and Shroud of Bereavement is WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated
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[Aug 7,2005 10:17pm - xmikex ""]
attendmyrequiem said:overrated:
as the sun sets
bury your dead
terror
throwdown


underrated:
Mouth of the Architect
Ion Dissonance
Disarmonia Mundi
Textures




terror is easily the most overrated metal band ever.

.....?

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[Aug 7,2005 10:23pm - brian_dc ""]
as the sun sets, bury your dead, terror, and throwdown....debateable whether or not any of these bands are really metal.
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[Aug 7,2005 10:25pm - fizzfizzplopplop  ""]
overrated......
other peoples opinions

underrated
crack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!smoke crack!!!!!
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[Aug 7,2005 10:25pm - eddie ""]
heavenly fucking sucks. way to make power metal gay
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[Aug 7,2005 11:24pm - malettey ""]
OVER RATED:
Slayer - although highly influential in the thrash/death metal scene, in my opinion, most of slayers early material don't really hold up too well nowadays, and all of their material from 1990-present is pretty watered down. a lot of metal fans hail slayer as untouchable gods, but i usually can find something more interesting to listen to.

Mayhem - a highly influential group in the early death/black metal scene, but many groups that followed what mayhem was doing ended up doing it much much better, leaving mayhem sucking ass in comparison. plus euronymous was a big mouth weenie who thought he was some kind of great black metal leader but i don't think he really knew what the hell he was talking about/doing, he just liked attention.

Metallica - do i need to explain myself here? well, metallica was, in my opinion, one of the greatest metal bands in the 1980's. they wrote some really great songs, awesome musicianship while thrashing with the best of them. unfortunately thier commercial success led to a lot of ther old hits being horribly overplayed on the radio, plus me as a 9th grade heavy metal rookie playing their albums over and over again before discovering other groups, thus they have become, sadly, one of the most over rated bands ever.


UNDER RATED:
Gwar - more known for their over the top blood-n-guts stage show and gore soaked monster costumes than for their music, gwar are actually extremely talented musicians. although their albums of the late 1990's seemed a lot of goofing off with silly country, jazz, and ska/punk songs, which i didn't care for, their talent makes, for me, their work in the early 1990's some of the best in speed/thrash metal.

My Dying Bride - these doom pioneers show you can play emotional music without prancing around on stage in girls' flare jeans, faggy studded belts, and t-shirts that would fit a 6 year old. they started as a doom/death metal band, but eventually progressed into a slightly more gothic sound. not always what i am in the mood for, but when i feel like listening to slow, painful, depressing doom, my dying bride definitely makes a fine choice.

Cock and Ball Torture - i am listing this german porno/gore grind band because they are one of the only bands i've heard who really know how to slam some truly brutal and insanely catchy breakdowns. not to mention they have some of the funniest death metal vocals ever, the lowest most gurgly sewer grunts ever! to me, this band is truly under rated!



sorry, but it's getting late, and three is all i can come up with for each right now!
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[Aug 7,2005 11:30pm - anonymous  ""]
babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in said:overrated:
HIM
cradle of filth
meshuggah
killswitch engage

underated:
heavenly
abyssos
gorerotted
fintroll
(i could go on wiht this side of the list forever)



how can you say cradle of filth is overrated? your whole band is a buncha mallmetal kids.

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[Aug 7,2005 11:32pm - anonymous  ""]
babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in said:lol agnostic front is horrible


hmm big jeans, dyed hair, hot topic or EBAYED metal shirts and crappy music....oh yeah BLOODSTRUCK HORRIBLE fucking band.
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[Aug 8,2005 10:40am - Jesus_Slaves ""]
i believe Dimmu is underrated simply because of the amount of shittalking they receive. they have been considered a joke and i cannot figure out how anyone who claims to be into "black metal" doesnt like them. they have released 7 of the most amazing albums in history. every person is super talented at what they do. some of the fastest guitar and drum playing ever recorded. Shagrath and Vortex possess vocal chords like none other. Shagraths voice has since mutated, but it still sounds awesome. his roar on Enthrone Darkness Triumphant is unmatched. Mustis has created the most haunting soundscapes, not to mention how nauseating his talent is. even before him, Stian Aarsted wrote equally haunting pieces. there is not one single song from For All Tid to Death Cult Armaggedon that isnt astonishing in structure, production, sound, everything. Spiritual Black Dimensions was the only one that lacked in production sound, but that hardly took away from the insanity of each song from start to finish. i have heard so many assholes talk about how much they suck because they have keyboards, or they arent "true norwegian black metal" because they have so called "overproduction" or they were sold at Hot Topic. thats pretty lame for reasons as to why they "suck". i think Dimmu haters havent actually sat down and analyzed an album. or they hate them because they arent kvlt or grim enough because they werent recorded on a 4 track recorder. they deserve every ounce of credit they have, and eons more. i can understand not liking them for personal reasons, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. but to those, i say sit down and study Enthrone Darkness Triumphant. open your mind, they are the best of the best.
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[Aug 8,2005 10:47am - Christraper ""]
nah they suck
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[Aug 8,2005 10:55am - babyshaker ""]
another dickless anonymous faggot keep it comin pal
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[Aug 8,2005 1:51pm - yodaslab  ""]
Underrated: Byzantine, Meshuggah, GWAR, Heaven Shall Burn, Glass Casket

Overrated: Slayer, Metallica, Ozzy, Hatebreed, system of a down (a.k.a. the entire lineup of ozzfest, almost)
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[Aug 8,2005 1:57pm - Dissector ""]
babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in said:lol agnostic front is horrible


Early Agnostic Front is amazing.
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[Aug 8,2005 2:22pm - attendmyrequiem ""]
xmikex said:attendmyrequiem said:overrated:
as the sun sets
bury your dead
terror
throwdown


underrated:
Mouth of the Architect
Ion Dissonance
Disarmonia Mundi
Textures




terror is easily the most overrated metal band ever.

.....?





it was quite obvious that i was too stoned to remember that it was metal bands and not just bands. either way you tried to argue as the sunsets being grindcore... enough said.
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[Aug 8,2005 2:31pm - attendmyrequiem ""]
yodaslab said:Underrated: Byzantine, Meshuggah, GWAR, Heaven Shall Burn, Glass Casket

Overrated: Slayer, Metallica, Ozzy, Hatebreed, system of a down (a.k.a. the entire lineup of ozzfest, almost)




byzantine live...ehhh
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[Aug 8,2005 2:34pm - Hooker ;laskjfoiwje  ""]
Over:

ISIS
Most Robotic or Willowtip bands

Under

Testament
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[Aug 8,2005 2:59pm - Thenamesfro ""]
Overrated -
Children of Bodom
Lamb of God
Avenged Sevenfold
Arch Enemy
Isis

Underrated -
Carcass
The Great Redneck Hope
(old) As the Sun Sets
Undying
and
Insane Clown Posse(couldn't think of anyone else)
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[Aug 8,2005 3:15pm - BornSoVile ""]
Jesus_Slaves said:i believe Dimmu is underrated simply because of the amount of shittalking they receive. they have been considered a joke and i cannot figure out how anyone who claims to be into "black metal" doesnt like them. they have released 7 of the most amazing albums in history. every person is super talented at what they do. some of the fastest guitar and drum playing ever recorded. Shagrath and Vortex possess vocal chords like none other. Shagraths voice has since mutated, but it still sounds awesome. his roar on Enthrone Darkness Triumphant is unmatched. Mustis has created the most haunting soundscapes, not to mention how nauseating his talent is. even before him, Stian Aarsted wrote equally haunting pieces. there is not one single song from For All Tid to Death Cult Armaggedon that isnt astonishing in structure, production, sound, everything. Spiritual Black Dimensions was the only one that lacked in production sound, but that hardly took away from the insanity of each song from start to finish. i have heard so many assholes talk about how much they suck because they have keyboards, or they arent "true norwegian black metal" because they have so called "overproduction" or they were sold at Hot Topic. thats pretty lame for reasons as to why they "suck". i think Dimmu haters havent actually sat down and analyzed an album. or they hate them because they arent kvlt or grim enough because they werent recorded on a 4 track recorder. they deserve every ounce of credit they have, and eons more. i can understand not liking them for personal reasons, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. but to those, i say sit down and study Enthrone Darkness Triumphant. open your mind, they are the best of the best.


They're in it for the money. They exploited the shit out of black metal. Though they are talented, they completly lost the orginal intention of black metal - total hatred and isolation from mankind. For All Tid and Stormblast are solid albums, however you cannot deny that they have adjusted their sound to stimulate more profits in hopes pleasing the masses. It's a disgrace to the genre and the people who hold black metal close to them. Listen to Nokturnal Mortum, that band is everything that Dimmu Borgir should have been. As far as the over produced arguement, hating them for that is really no different than hating a band for being underproduced, it's just a question of heart and feeling. I've anaylzed several of their albums throughly and thoughtfully, all I hear is a carnival of ideas which stagnant opposite to the intentions of the genre. They have all the credit in the world for being the prime example of black metal, yet there are countless bands who destroy their stance, that's why they're over rated to me. There are so many more better bands in black metal than that, refusing to explore the genre is pure ignorance, and that's that.
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[Aug 8,2005 3:20pm - dan_bloodblister ""]
holy fuck, that was incredibly well put!
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[Aug 8,2005 3:37pm - BornSoVile ""]
malettey said:OVER RATED:
Slayer - although highly influential in the thrash/death metal scene, in my opinion, most of slayers early material don't really hold up too well nowadays, and all of their material from 1990-present is pretty watered down. a lot of metal fans hail slayer as untouchable gods, but i usually can find something more interesting to listen to.

Mayhem - a highly influential group in the early death/black metal scene, but many groups that followed what mayhem was doing ended up doing it much much better, leaving mayhem sucking ass in comparison. plus euronymous was a big mouth weenie who thought he was some kind of great black metal leader but i don't think he really knew what the hell he was talking about/doing, he just liked attention.




I found these two explanations to be interesting. I understand where you're comming from but I disagree simply for the reason that without these bands there won't be much of a metal scene today. Not only is it human nature to evolve stronger and more resistant to the past but very well is the nature of music. Slayer's material post Divine Intervention is an easy target for this accusation of being over rated. However, they're older material, imparticuarlly Show No Mercy is completly unacknowledged nowadays and when you anaylze the album as a whole it completly massacres most of today's popular metalcore acts. It's all about roots. If you cut down this tree, how many seeds are you depriving the earth of??
As for Mayhem, I can't see eye to eye with you on that at all. These fuckers have actually evolved quite well (excluding declaration), executing each album with more precision, conceptual grace and determination than each preceding work. Now that Attila is back in the fold, I doubt few bands will be able to top the virtuosity and madness which they possess.

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