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over-rated bands!

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[Apr 20,2006 10:16am - Josh_Martin ""]
My thoughts:

Clutch fucking sucks. I too saw that tour with them and Sepultura. I'd actually seen Clutch a few times before that too, opening for various bands. I thought they sucked wicked bad. Then I saw them a couple years ago headlining because they had a couple of good opening bands. They still suck. I don't get what there is to like about Clutch at all.

The Grammy's are totally gay and completely meaningless when it comes to metal. Who gives a fuck what some industry assholes think about metal?

Sodom is getting all this recognition now because they finally toured the U.S a few months ago for the first time EVER. Of course they're getting talked about more than ever before. And it's about damn time too.

Suffocation. Yawn. Back in the day they were just another death metal band. Now they're revered like gods by some people. I don't know why. Must have something to do with all the metalcore kids liking them.





Its true that metal does not owe 3/4 of its soul to Black Sabbath. More like 9/10.


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[Apr 20,2006 10:18am - Josh_Martin ""]
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[Apr 20,2006 10:20am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Deathspell Omega is getting more recognition as of late because Kenose is available through Southern Lord, THAT FUCKING TREND LABEL.
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[Apr 20,2006 10:20am - dreadkill ""]
doug was their old singer. jim was the one whose gf ruined things.
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[Apr 20,2006 10:21am - dreadkill ""]
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:Deathspell Omega is getting more recognition as of late because Kenose is available through Southern Lord, THAT FUCKING TREND LABEL.


makes sense
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[Apr 20,2006 10:28am - Josh_Martin ""]
dreadkill said:doug was their old singer. jim was the one whose gf ruined things.


Oh, never mind then.
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[Apr 20,2006 10:33am - Yeti ""]
pretty soon no one is going to listen to music anymore because everything will be labeled as "overrated". it seems that more and more people are listening to what would make them cool, as opposed to what they really like. like Dimmu and Opeth, now that they have fans, are deemed "overrated", and if you listen to them you are a trendy something or other. its sad that the sanctity of music has been defiled by arrogance. its fucking music.
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[Apr 20,2006 11:24am - dreadkill ""]
Yeti said:pretty soon no one is going to listen to music anymore because everything will be labeled as "overrated". it seems that more and more people are listening to what would make them cool, as opposed to what they really like. like Dimmu and Opeth, now that they have fans, are deemed "overrated", and if you listen to them you are a trendy something or other. its sad that the sanctity of music has been defiled by arrogance. its fucking music.


indeed
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[Apr 20,2006 11:27am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
SUFFOCATION are NOT over-rated.
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[Apr 20,2006 11:28am - dreadkill ""]
every band that has more than 12 fans is overrated.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:04pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
hahahahah more than 12?
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[Apr 20,2006 1:06pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Anything that is available internationally is trendy overrated bullshit.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:10pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Any band that tours outside of its home congressional district are sellouts.

To determine sellouts among bands that tour inside their congressional district if they drive to a show more than five miles from their basement they are overrated. If said band does not travel more than five miles but makes multiple copies of their cd-r demo it means that they are rich punks because they have a computer and a supply of ink and cd-rs and are therefore overrated sellouts. If a band can afford equipment they're sellouts too.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:14pm - dreadkill ""]
very true
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[Apr 20,2006 1:17pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""]
Josh_Martin said:dreadkill said:doug was their old singer. jim was the one whose gf ruined things.


Oh, never mind then.



I'm intrigued. wonder what that was about. Even in a case of mistaken identity did I get slagged because I don't like sabbath but like clutch?
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[Apr 20,2006 1:20pm - dreadkill ""]
doug, you listen to lots of dan swano, so you're cool in my books.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:27pm - Anthony nli  ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:SUFFOCATION are NOT over-rated.



can't wait to hear the new record
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[Apr 20,2006 1:34pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""]
dreadkill said:doug, you listen to lots of dan swano, so you're cool in my books.


Sweet. Clutch and Swano. We're practically the same person.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:38pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Yeti said:pretty soon no one is going to listen to music anymore because everything will be labeled as "overrated". it seems that more and more people are listening to what would make them cool, as opposed to what they really like. like Dimmu and Opeth, now that they have fans, are deemed "overrated", and if you listen to them you are a trendy something or other. its sad that the sanctity of music has been defiled by arrogance. its fucking music.


Some people actually just think Dimmu Borgir and Opeth have decreased in quality. I am one of them. And then some people have just always thought they sucked. Sorry.

I know what you mean about some people listening to what will 'make them cool', but on the flipside are just as many (no, MORE) rabid fanboys who will gush over a band no matter how miserable their output is/becomes because they too are striving for acceptance.

This polarity has always existed in musical opinion, it always will, and people will always listen to music until we evolve out of having ears.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:47pm - dreadkill ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:Yeti said:pretty soon no one is going to listen to music anymore because everything will be labeled as "overrated". it seems that more and more people are listening to what would make them cool, as opposed to what they really like. like Dimmu and Opeth, now that they have fans, are deemed "overrated", and if you listen to them you are a trendy something or other. its sad that the sanctity of music has been defiled by arrogance. its fucking music.


Some people actually just think Dimmu Borgir and Opeth have decreased in quality. I am one of them. And then some people have just always thought they sucked. Sorry.

I know what you mean about some people listening to what will 'make them cool', but on the flipside are just as many (no, MORE) rabid fanboys who will gush over a band no matter how miserable their output is/becomes because they too are striving for acceptance.

This polarity has always existed in musical opinion, it always will, and people will always listen to music until we evolve out of having ears.



i try not to be a fan boy about bands i like. i don't fool myself into liking subpar albums. i really enjoyed opeth's last album and thought it was much better than deliverance.

the new katatonia, on the other hand, was a disappointment. i like it, but it's definitely the worst album they've put out. all the fan boys act like it's their masterpiece, but it is so weak compared to their best albums.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:51pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
dreadkill said:
the new katatonia, on the other hand, was a disappointment. i like it, but it's definitely the worst album they've put out. all the fan boys act like it's their masterpiece, but it is so weak compared to their best albums.



I think it's just because for most people, the new Katatonia is their first Katatonia, since they are passive and wait for music to come to them. I think they've been going downhill for awhile now, I thought their peak was the knockout trilogy of 'Brave Murder Day', 'Discouraged Ones' and 'Tonight's Decision'. They still can come up with catchy riffs (a couple on the last two albums), but most of the records since 'Tonight's Decision' have been mild re-writes that often sound as if Katatonia wants to score the music for Laguna Beach or American's Top Model or something.

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[Apr 20,2006 1:54pm - mikexmike @ work  ""]
Black Dahlia Murder is seriously the worst. I saw that band like 3 or 4 years ago at Bills Bar when every metal kid, and metalcore kid was waterlogging their nuts with drool. It was one of the single most boring sets I'd ever seen. Watered down At the Gates riffs mixed with extra boring metalcore breakdowns you could have pulled out of Earth Crisis' stool samples.

My friend Frank put it the best way I can think possible to describe Black Dahlia Murder: "Every kid in that band was a complete and total nerd in their own unique way."

I went on Lambgoat that night and said I thought their set was boring. The thread got at least 50 replies from kids I didn't know calling me a faggot. OVER - RATED
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[Apr 20,2006 1:56pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Not to mention that one Black Dahlia Murder song which is a DIRECT ripoff of an At the Gates tune, riff for riff, tempo for tempo, with the notes changed b/c they thought they could pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:57pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Notorious_D.U.G. said: Even in a case of mistaken identity did I get slagged because I don't like sabbath but like clutch?


No.
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[Apr 20,2006 1:58pm - mikexmike @ work  ""]
pam nli said:Suffocation, The Black Dahlia Murder, Killswitch Engage, THIN LIZZY, Mastadon, In Flames, and Nile.
Clutch can't be overrated, because they're just fucking terrible.
From Autumns Burning of the End in my Eyes of Ashes...I think that covers all *those* bands.

Yeah, most of you don't like me anymore.



I agree with all of that minus Suffocation, and minus Nile "Catacombs...", and plus Soilwork
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[Apr 20,2006 2:01pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""]
dreadkill said:

the new katatonia, on the other hand, was a disappointment. i like it, but it's definitely the worst album they've put out. all the fan boys act like it's their masterpiece, but it is so weak compared to their best albums.



I really like Great Cold Distance. Don't know. Just like the vibe. Certainly better than Last Fair Deal but on par with Viva Emptiness. Tonight's Decision is my favorite though. Katatonia is one of the few bands that I like what they've become over the years as opposed to their initial output.
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[Apr 20,2006 2:04pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""]
Josh_Martin said:Notorious_D.U.G. said: Even in a case of mistaken identity did I get slagged because I don't like sabbath but like clutch?


No.



cool then i guess. at least it sounded like it ended up being a stab at Jim, which I'm all for.
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[Apr 20,2006 2:05pm - Josh_Martin ""]
Notorious_D.U.G. said:Josh_Martin said:Notorious_D.U.G. said: Even in a case of mistaken identity did I get slagged because I don't like sabbath but like clutch?


No.



cool then i guess. at least it sounded like it ended up being a stab at Jim, which I'm all for.



The Rev sad you did a lot of fucking. I was just wondering how someone who did a lot of fucking could let some broad ruin his band. But it wasn't you who's broad fucked things up. I goofed.
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[Apr 20,2006 2:08pm - dreadkill ""]
mikexmike @ work said:Black Dahlia Murder is seriously the worst. I saw that band like 3 or 4 years ago at Bills Bar when every metal kid, and metalcore kid was waterlogging their nuts with drool. It was one of the single most boring sets I'd ever seen. Watered down At the Gates riffs mixed with extra boring metalcore breakdowns you could have pulled out of Earth Crisis' stool samples.

My friend Frank put it the best way I can think possible to describe Black Dahlia Murder: "Every kid in that band was a complete and total nerd in their own unique way."

I went on Lambgoat that night and said I thought their set was boring. The thread got at least 50 replies from kids I didn't know calling me a faggot. OVER - RATED



i agree completely. i hate that band. it's just a bunch of fat metalcore kids wishing they were at the gates. whenever someone quits the band, they find another fat metalcore kid to take the spot. that band is fatter than crowbar.
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[Apr 20,2006 2:10pm - dreadkill ""]
Notorious_D.U.G. said:dreadkill said:

the new katatonia, on the other hand, was a disappointment. i like it, but it's definitely the worst album they've put out. all the fan boys act like it's their masterpiece, but it is so weak compared to their best albums.



I really like Great Cold Distance. Don't know. Just like the vibe. Certainly better than Last Fair Deal but on par with Viva Emptiness. Tonight's Decision is my favorite though. Katatonia is one of the few bands that I like what they've become over the years as opposed to their initial output.



i like katatonia's post-brave murder day stuff better than their pre-BMD stuff. my favorite is tonight's decision, followed by discouraged ones, lfdgd/viva emptiness/bmd. if they had continued in the vein of bmd, i still would have loved them, but they probably wouldn't have been my favorite band.
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[Apr 20,2006 3:14pm - Yeti ""]
bahahaha fatter than Crowbar
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[Apr 20,2006 3:16pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
Yeti said:bahahaha fatter than Crowbar


hey hey hey crowbar kicked the fat bass player out, kirk is just big boned
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[Apr 20,2006 3:23pm - Yeti ""]
no bass player is fatter than the dude from Carpathian Forest
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[Apr 20,2006 3:26pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Someone please post the pic where he has the arrow pointing down to his bare ass that reads "Insert cock here"
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[Apr 20,2006 3:27pm - Dissector ""]
AC/DC
Black Sabbath
Ozzy
Zeppelin
Pink Floyd

I always get into fights with people because I don't like those bands.
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[Apr 20,2006 3:31pm - CraigForACurse ""]
dreadkill said:every band that has more than 12 fans is overrated.


YES! my band will never become overrated.
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[Apr 20,2006 3:50pm - Josh_Martin ""]
How can a metalhead not like Black Sabbath?
They ARE heavy metal. If Black Sabbath was the only metal band to ever exist, heavy metal would still be the greatest sub-genre of music ever.
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[Apr 20,2006 3:55pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
Dissector said:AC/DC
Black Sabbath
Ozzy
Zeppelin
Pink Floyd

I always get into fights with people because I don't like those bands.



you not liking them and them being overrated is two different things. like them or not all of those bands besides Ozzy's solo shit has done good for heavy music
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[Apr 20,2006 4:19pm - Overrated  ""]
This thread is full of elitism. Everyone in this thread needs to get a fucking life.
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[Apr 20,2006 4:24pm - dreadkill ""]
whiskey_weed_and_women said:Yeti said:bahahaha fatter than Crowbar


hey hey hey crowbar kicked the fat bass player out, kirk is just big boned



todd strange is a carpenter now.
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[Apr 20,2006 4:25pm - dreadkill ""]
Overrated said:This thread is full of elitism. Everyone in this thread needs to get a fucking life.


how do i go about acquiring a "life?"
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[Apr 20,2006 4:30pm - Josh_Martin ""]
I've noticed that people who complain about "elitism" always have shitty taste and never know what they are talking about when it comes to metal.
"Elitism" doesn't even exist. Its just an excuse for poseurs to tell themselves they aren't poseurs.
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[Apr 20,2006 4:32pm - dreadkill ""]
Josh_Martin said:I've noticed that people who complain about "elitism" always have shitty taste and never know what they are talking about when it comes to metal.
"Elitism" doesn't even exist. Its just an excuse for poseurs to tell themselves they aren't poseurs.



yeah, it's usually metalcore kids who bitch about elitism. by their standards, i'm an elitist, but i really just like what i like and hate what i think sucks.
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[Apr 20,2006 5:15pm - Notorious_D.U.G. ""]
Overrated said:This thread is full of elitism. Everyone in this thread needs to get a fucking life.


Your post is full of semen. Shut up poseur.
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[Apr 20,2006 5:53pm - Dissector ""]
whiskey_weed_and_women said:Dissector said:AC/DC
Black Sabbath
Ozzy
Zeppelin
Pink Floyd

I always get into fights with people because I don't like those bands.



you not liking them and them being overrated is two different things. like them or not all of those bands besides Ozzy's solo shit has done good for heavy music



True. Very good point.
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[Apr 20,2006 8:09pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Overrated said:This thread is full of elitism. Everyone in this thread needs to get a fucking life.


That includes you though...since you are in this thread.
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[Apr 20,2006 8:16pm - BornSoVile ""]
Josh_Martin said:I've noticed that people who complain about "elitism" always have shitty taste and never know what they are talking about when it comes to metal.
"Elitism" doesn't even exist. Its just an excuse for poseurs to tell themselves they aren't poseurs.



Josh wins, again.
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[Apr 20,2006 8:21pm - dreadkill ""]
indeed he does. i believe there can be elitism, but 99% of the time idiots declare elitism because other people don't like the shitty music they listen to.
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[Apr 20,2006 10:27pm - pam ""]
Josh_Martin said:I've noticed that people who complain about "elitism" always have shitty taste and never know what they are talking about when it comes to metal.
"Elitism" doesn't even exist. Its just an excuse for poseurs to tell themselves they aren't poseurs.




^That is awesome. lol.

Don't get me wrong here, I like bands I consider overrated. That's not a factor in what I like. I like a lot of stuff, all different kinds, but sometimes a band gets built up to something it isn't.

I stand by my statements, Clutch is fucking terrible, and Suffocation is not the entity they are built up to be. Deal.
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[Apr 20,2006 11:23pm - sacreligion ""]
BornSoVile said:Josh_Martin said:I've noticed that people who complain about "elitism" always have shitty taste and never know what they are talking about when it comes to metal.
"Elitism" doesn't even exist. Its just an excuse for poseurs to tell themselves they aren't poseurs.



Josh wins, again.



ahh but the "u" in posers takes away a few points

this isn't fucking frasier here!

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