A question for Axis double pedal users
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[Mar 28,2011 3:11pm - arktouros ""]
ArrowHeadNLI said:Also, the other reason for using triggers for ME is for studio/home use. well yeah, i would love to get a v-drum kit for home and mess with samples until i'm blind, but i spend enough money keeping my kit in shape. either way drumming requires suckers willing to pay way too much money for their gear.
[Mar 28,2011 3:12pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
WTF, is that a laundry machine he's playing?
checking out the website now.
[Mar 28,2011 3:12pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
and AMEN, both ways of drumming is so FUCKING expensive.
[Mar 28,2011 3:14pm - arilliusbm ""]
good thread guys. rttp needs more threads like dis
[Mar 28,2011 3:33pm - narkybark ""]
Thanks, glad you liked it!
[Mar 28,2011 4:36pm - ouchdrummer ""]
ArrowHeadNLI said:
As for bpm and tempo, Jim, you're off a little. Time signature does not matter. In proper notation, tempo is written exactly as I said. Note value = BPM. So if the assumption is that we're playing at 200BPM, we would set the quarter at 200, even if you're playing in 19/16.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you, but what I describe is PROPER musical notation, which I fucking HATED having to read in school.
You actually don't have any idea what i'm talking about. ALL I'M SAYING IS THIS: if people say they can do 32nd notes, it doesn't mean anything unless they say a BPM!!!! THAT'S MY ARGUMENT!! YOU said that it's implied to be 200 with metal...... then MY REPLY was: If it's implies to be 200bpm, then no one can do 32nd notes..
Maybe i haven't been clear, maybe i'm hallucinating, but god damnit, I'm pretty sure this makes sense.
[Mar 28,2011 4:39pm - ouchdrummer ""]
ouchdrummer said:i think we're still on different pages.. but that's ok. I just think that when talking about the speed with which your playing, not the speed relative to the song, you shouldn't take the time signature into account.
[Mar 28,2011 4:46pm - arktouros ""]
if someone says "quarter notes at 200 BPM", that's 4 hits for each click, 800 hits per minute. if someone just says "32nd notes" that doesn't mean anything.
...and going by "quarter notes at 200 BPM" then yeeaah... 32nd notes at 200 BPM are not possible.
[Mar 28,2011 4:49pm - ouchdrummer ""]
yes!!!
[Mar 28,2011 4:50pm - t2daeeknli ""]
"you lads are so silly. hit your fuggin drums harder"
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[Mar 28,2011 4:55pm - arktouros ""]
arktouros said: if someone just says "32nd notes" that doesn't mean anything.
UNLESS of course it's IMPLIED that you're talking about a MEASURE and not TEMPO. FUCK
[Mar 28,2011 5:19pm - sinistas ""]
arktouros said:arrowhead check out agren's website http://www.morganagren.com/bio.html
he's playing on water, this thread is invalid.
bennyhillifier
Dude singing at 3:50 is hilarious.
[Mar 28,2011 5:39pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
ouchdrummer said:i think we're still on different pages.
ouchdrummer said:
You actually don't have any idea what i'm talking about.
Whoa, nelly! I've been agreeing with you and saying EXACTLY what you're saying the whole thread, Jim. You're really taking my joke about all metal drummers playing at 200bpm and running with it.
I simply was saying that time signature doesn't matter, because I thought I read you saying it does. You actually said DOESN'T. They write quarter = bpm on a metronome for a reason. The quarter is the usual default measure of tempo. However, in say a swing groove you'd figure the DOTTED quarter gets the beat, and would write it at b.=120bpm, etc....
But I'm preaching to the choir, because we're saying the same damned thing. 32nd notes are meaningless until you know what it's a 32nd OF.
[Mar 28,2011 5:55pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
I wonder if you could plot the mathematically increasing chance that any drummer thread will eventually descend into a) arguments about fractions, b) trigger / no trigger debates, or c) both. I feel like it's a universal constant and wish to study this phenomenon further.
[Mar 28,2011 5:55pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
SCIENCE!
[Mar 28,2011 5:59pm - narkybark ""]
It's pretty much 100% guarantee, isnt it?
[Mar 28,2011 6:25pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
DestroyYouAlot said:I wonder if you could plot the mathematically increasing chance that any drummer thread will eventually descend into a) arguments about fractions, b) trigger / no trigger debates, or c) both. I feel like it's a universal constant and wish to study this phenomenon further.
Only here. All the other forums I'm on it turns into a polyRHYTHM vs polyMETER argument for 3 pages.
[Mar 28,2011 8:48pm - josh_hates_you ""]
ITT: rttp fail math? more likely than you think!
[Mar 29,2011 8:44am - ouchdrummer ""]
ArrowHeadNLI said:
ouchdrummer said:i think we're still on different pages.
ouchdrummer said:
You actually don't have any idea what i'm talking about.
Whoa, nelly! I've been agreeing with you and saying EXACTLY what you're saying the whole thread, Jim. You're really taking my joke about all metal drummers playing at 200bpm and running with it.
I simply was saying that time signature doesn't matter, because I thought I read you saying it does. You actually said DOESN'T. They write quarter = bpm on a metronome for a reason. The quarter is the usual default measure of tempo. However, in say a swing groove you'd figure the DOTTED quarter gets the beat, and would write it at b.=120bpm, etc....
But I'm preaching to the choir, because we're saying the same damned thing. 32nd notes are meaningless until you know what it's a 32nd OF.
only posting when in pain from pinched nerves is real... I mean.... Sorry? hehe
[Mar 29,2011 11:00am - iamnotkennyg ""]
wow i didn't even see this post here. got some catching up to do.. but for me, i trigger my kicks when i can merely as a means of amplification. the kicks are so important in most types of metal. goto a local hall show and notice you can't hear the kicks at all, and even if they put a shitty mic on em they still don't cut through. also if you're hitting the kicks at ridiculous speeds the triggers articulate each hit so it doesn't just sound like more mud in the mix. and if you say it's cheating then play guitar without any distortion or effects. trust me, if i played shows with insane sound systems, sound guys, and thousand dollar mics, i wouldn't trigger.
i apologize if this was all already said in this post.
ALSO, i play Trick pedals now... i USED to use axis longboards until they were stolen at my last arkham white show at o'briens. so whoever took them can choke on a cock and get diarreah, pissfuckcuntanusfurburger!!! DIE YOU FUCKING WASTE
[Mar 29,2011 11:05am - ouchdrummer ""]
iamnotkennyg said:wow i didn't even see this post here. got some catching up to do.. but for me, i trigger my kicks when i can merely as a means of amplification. the kicks are so important in most types of metal. goto a local hall show and notice you can't hear the kicks at all, and even if they put a shitty mic on em they still don't cut through. also if you're hitting the kicks at ridiculous speeds the triggers articulate each hit so it doesn't just sound like more mud in the mix. and if you say it's cheating then play guitar without any distortion or effects. trust me, if i played shows with insane sound systems, sound guys, and thousand dollar mics, i wouldn't trigger.
i apologize if this was all already said in this post.
ALSO, i play Trick pedals now... i USED to use axis longboards until they were stolen at my last arkham white show at o'briens. so whoever took them can choke on a cock and get diarreah, pissfuckcuntanusfurburger!!! DIE YOU FUCKING WASTE
i use the same argument all the time. boo ya.... but yeah, it was said.
[Mar 29,2011 1:39pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
wow, stealing someones gear is NOT cool. What kinda asshole does that?
Also, what are trick pedals? I've hears this term a few times in this thread.
[Mar 29,2011 1:45pm - ouchdrummer ""]
trick is a brand, they're not like the "dualist".. they're great.
[Mar 29,2011 2:26pm - ArrowHeadNLI ""]
Oh, I feel stupid. I thought they were saying "trick pedal" like it was some kinda novelty thing or something.