Candy Striper Death Orgy[views:33474][posts:173]_______________________________ [Jul 14,2005 1:10pm - hoser ""] Well Rule #1 for example: You MUST wear shorts that are wayyy too short at all times. There is no questioning the short shorts. #2: Your T-shirt must look like it was put into a blender on HIGH for at least 20 minutes before you wear it. #3: You ABSOLUTELY MUST wear high top sneakers with bunged up socks near the bottom....or you guessed it....not thrash. #4: The hair....in no way shape of form are you allowed to have hair that is shorter than your guitar. #5: THE GRAND POO-BAH OF ALL THRASH RULES. YOU MUST END EVERY VOCAL SENTENCE WITH "-AYYAAAHHHHH!!!" The average song sentence must sound something like this "Through the wicked nights I runn-nnnaaaahhhhh!!" or something like this, ""And then the sky turned grayyy-ayyaaaahhhh!!" These are the rules. Follow them or be banished from the thrash underworld. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 1:12pm - metal_church101 ""] LOL |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 1:20pm - paganmegan ""] RustedAngel said:how many bands that sound exactly like exodus/overkill are touring right now? not very fuckin many. because nobody wants to here any old school thrash ripoff bands. *cough* csdo as a guitarist, you can do a lot more with death metal, thrash you sort of have some rules you have to follow with certain beats, ect. if you're too exerimental with thrash, you won't be considered thrash anymore. I dunno, bands like aura noir are distinctly not thrash in the typical sense of it, they combine black metal with it effectively (hence the term black thrash) without losing the element of thrash. Also, anyone who has heard destruction can vouch for the technical (but without being overly masturbatory with the technicality of it) aspect of their thrash. Coroner is another good example of excellent thrash with amazing guitar work, also whiplash falls along those lines. Anyone who is familiar with possessed is aware of the ties thrash and death inextricably have |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 1:25pm - IcedEarth77 ""] CSDO is NOT a 'pristine' example of oldschool thrash, man. That's not really a fair assessment. We don't like them any more than you do (original point of the post) hahah. I never said there were more thrash bands touring than death metal bands. Death metal is far more recent and thus obviously a more widespread form of music. Also, you have just disproven your own point: no thrash bands sounding like Exodus/Overkill are touring right now, BECAUSE THEY ALL SOUND DIFFERENT than those two bands! The Haunted, Slayer, Kreator, Destruction, God Forbid, Shadows Fall, In Flames, these are all bands either 'rooted' in thrash or actually playing oldschool thrash, love them or hate them. They are all either touring or have come off tours recently. People don't want to hear oldschool thrash? I beg to differ, the latest Kreator tour was more successful than any other Kreator tour in history! Their record also soundscanned just as many copies as ANY death metal band in the past year (possible exception of Nile). I play guitar and I can do just as much with thrash as death metal. I have no idea what you are talking about, again you have only named three thrash bands, ALL US thrash bands that started in a certain time period. (Overkill, Exodus, and Slayer). There are so many others out there that sound different... Not to mention, your own screen name is a thrash album (with thrash vocals!) by Darkane!!! CLEARLY thrash metal. So why the hell are we debating this? Are you just biased because you are in a death metal band? Just how old are you? Were you even alive when thrash birthed death metal? You don't think the 250,000 death/gore/grind bands who all sing the same subjects and play the same double-bass, chug-chug, palm mutes on lowest four frets with harmonized 5ths are following rules? Give me a break! How many death metal bands have created an original vocal style over the past 17-18 years of its existence? Carcass, Death, Morbid Angel, Demilich/Incantation, Entombed. That's it... Now compare vocals from Death Angel, Exodus, Overkill, Slayer, Artillery, Venom, Holy Moses, early Metallica...Megadeth. All pretty fucking different! And the list could go on. Have you heard Watchtower? Tell me just what rules that band was following. Bullshit. Here is an example. I ENJOY Porphyria, don't get me wrong, I like the music alot and I think it kicks ass! But please back up your statement that you are not following rules yourself? Tell me what guitar techniques you are using that Decapitated, Suffocation, and countless other brutal death bands haven't already used? Absolutely none. So how can you think all 'thrash' follows rules and death metal is 'experimental' when death metal is CLEARLY doing the same thing. That is not fair! |
| _______________________________ [Jul 14,2005 1:44pm - hoser ""] Listen, let me make this CRYSTAL CLEAR. Does CSDO follow my rules of thrash?? If you answered "yes", then they are thrash. Period. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 1:48pm - IcedEarth77 ""] Noone ever said CSDO wasn't a thrash band, Hoser, and your rules totally apply to them. We just said they weren't a great example (as in, not a good thrash band). |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 1:53pm - RustedAngel ""] IcedEarth77 said: The Haunted, God Forbid, Shadows Fall, In Flames are not thrash bands...this isn't about bands with thrash 'roots in thrash'...roots don't necessarily mean you're that genre. I'm talking about there really being no NEW thrash bands that people want to hear that sound exactly like old school thrash. Other than the regular's that still tour like Kreator. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 2:00pm - IcedEarth77 ""] The Haunted is TOTALLY a thrash band...you can ask them yourself. What do you think they are, death metal? Black metal? This argument is completely pointless. A few clicks showed me your profile, and that you too listen to thrash and have good taste in music, so there is no reason for us to argue. You will start to see more thrash come back, it's already happening...bigger bands like Aura Noir, Audiopain, even some local bands around here. Maybe they will even tour, but what I just meant to say is the music is clearly not 'dead'. You never said it was completely dead though, so no reason to huff anymore. Take it easy bro. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 2:33pm - Dissector ""] RustedAngel said:eddienli said:RustedAngel said: Thrash is pretty much dead, there's only so many thrash riffs you can conjur up that don't sound exactly like slayer/exodus/overkill. you can say that about these generas and their inspirations also. death metal. black metal. metalcore is the most obvious. punk. hardcore. folk music. hiphop. rap. and oh yeah every other genera of music. whats your point? death metal can die out and come back...you can do a lot more with death metal, than with thrash metal. Most death metal is boring. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 2:40pm - RustedAngel ""] Dissector said: Most death metal is boring. you are boring. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 2:43pm - Dissector ""] RustedAngel said:Dissector said: Most death metal is boring. you are boring. Psh you don't knoooow me. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 2:56pm - Scoracrasia ""] fag |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:24pm - Jesus_Slaves ""] man some of you people need lives or jobs. is it really necessary to write a thesis paper on the essence of thrash metal? first and foremost, who really cares, but secondly who are you? president of the thrash metal club for men? this makes for useless threads. how many people are going to explain the history of metal genres that we are all either plenty educated in, or could care less about? its way more interesting to read about Christrapers gas or if someone prefers heroin or sex. well feel free to lambaste and berate me over this. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:30pm - IcedEarth77 ""] I don't see any thesis papers here. You're just making one of those 'I art holier than thou because I don't fucking care about anything so I'm here to make you look like children!' posts. We'll talk about whatever the fuck we want. Cunt. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:38pm - IcedEarth77 ""] (Sorry mang, just berating and lambasting) I'm only the Treasurer of the Thrash Metal Club for Men. And no, you are not all educated in metal genres. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:41pm - paganmegan ""] I just like to talk about metal, as a metalhead, it's what I do |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:43pm - dan_bloodblister ""] done best when drunk off da beer |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:46pm - ninkaszi ""] i like csdo. good band. i wish they would finally release a cd though. lots of people care about new thrash bands. toxic holocaust and municipal waste draw good crowds and seem to be getting more interest every day from all sorts of "scenes". hirax just sold out a show at the middle east. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:53pm - paganmegan ""] I really don't understand all the controversy around csdo |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:56pm - Dissector ""] Dissector said: death metal can die out and come back...you can do a lot more with death metal, than with thrash metal. Most death metal is boring. For the record I like death metal. I'm jsut stating that most of these new death metal bands are getting stale. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 3:57pm - dan_bloodblister ""] i was in that guys porn store and was wearing a brutal truth shirt or something and we ended up talking for like a half hour. he seemed cool, just an old metal head. i havent even heard the band before but i cant imagine there as bad as everyone makes them seem if theyve been around so long. such is the internet |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 4:04pm - Anthony nli ""] ninkaszi said:i like csdo. good band. i wish they would finally release a cd though. lots of people care about new thrash bands. toxic holocaust and municipal waste draw good crowds and seem to be getting more interest every day from all sorts of "scenes". hirax just sold out a show at the middle east. yeah, i'm not putting myself on one side or the other here on this while csdo feud thing but the file I heard from the band sounded good. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 4:04pm - Christraper ""] My bowel movements are always interesting |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 4:06pm - Anthony nli ""] Anthony nli said:ninkaszi said:i like csdo. good band. i wish they would finally release a cd though. lots of people care about new thrash bands. toxic holocaust and municipal waste draw good crowds and seem to be getting more interest every day from all sorts of "scenes". hirax just sold out a show at the middle east. and yeah, it seemed like the old school thrash sound that MW and Hirax represent brought a whole lot of younger kids to that Middle East show and everyone was going nuts. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 4:45pm - KillerKadoogan ""] there is not a single form of music that will ever die out. it may not have an audience, but it'll be there. but rusted angel's opinion is far superior to the rest of ours, so i guess i shouldn't have stated mine. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 5:36pm - BestialOnslaught ""] The fact that he compared CSDO to SLAYER should have made it quite clear that he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. I like CSDO, they're a decent band with some good songs... I do think Eric exaggerates their success, but that's neither here nor there. I'd much rather listen to a catchy NUCLEAR ASSAULT "clone" than a shitty unmemorable slam death band any day of the week. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 5:37pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Jesus_Slaves said:man some of you people need lives or jobs. is it really necessary to write a thesis paper on the essence of thrash metal? first and foremost, who really cares, but secondly who are you? president of the thrash metal club for men? this makes for useless threads. how many people are going to explain the history of metal genres that we are all either plenty educated in, or could care less about? its way more interesting to read about Christrapers gas or if someone prefers heroin or sex. well feel free to lambaste and berate me over this. You're in Sacreligion... |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 5:57pm - dwellingsickness ""] I like pop tarts |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 6:23pm - eddienli ""] RustedAngel said:eddienli said:RustedAngel said: Thrash is pretty much dead, there's only so many thrash riffs you can conjur up that don't sound exactly like slayer/exodus/overkill. you can say that about these generas and their inspirations also. death metal. black metal. metalcore is the most obvious. punk. hardcore. folk music. hiphop. rap. and oh yeah every other genera of music. whats your point? death metal can die out and come back...you can do a lot more with death metal, than with thrash metal. i guess you've never heard of ghoul or funerot |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 6:25pm - eddienli ""] paganmegan said:I just like to talk about metal, as a metalhead, it's what I do well said |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 7:36pm - bestial onsluts ""] don't forget you must smell, fuck skank metal sluts only! must own and old slayer shirt from 1987/ no higher than a 10 grade education |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 7:59pm - dwellingsickness ""] eddienli said:>> i guess you've never heard of ghoul or funerot >> :NEWHORNS: Funerot:NEWHORNS: |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 8:49pm - anonymous ""] BestialOnslaught said: You're in Sacreligion... you're name is alex and you run a shitty website. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 8:50pm - Dissector ""] anonymous said:BestialOnslaught said: You're in Sacreligion... you're name is alex and you run a shitty website. But he runs a kick ass label. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 11:50pm - anonymous ""] actually his label is just as shitty! |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 14,2005 11:55pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] anonymous said:This band NEVER drew crowds of more than 1,000 to their shows, nor more than a hundred at best. What a crock of shit. I've been to their shows in the late 80s, some in the 90s. Not even shows with big headliners! I remember seeing CSDO in the early nineties and the show was packed. I still have an old video of them where a bouncer picks up a kid from the stage lifts him over his head and throws him into the crowd... |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 12:03am - Dissector ""] anonymous said:actually his label is just as shitty! Nah not really. Not at all. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 12:38am - ninkaszi ""] bestial onslaught is an awesome label. every release has been nothing but honest, quality underground metal. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 12:49am - BornSoVile ""] Bestial Onslaught is by far one of the most professional labels run in the North East. Bashing thrash is really gay. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 12:49am - Anthony nli ""] ninkaszi said:bestial onslaught is an awesome label. every release has been nothing but honest, quality underground metal. agreed |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 12:52am - anonymous ""] ninkaszi said:bestial onslaught is an awesome label. every release has been nothing but honest, quality underground metal. shitty label, shitty bands, shitty person. you're a minority. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 12:54am - BornSoVile ""] anonymous said:ninkaszi said:bestial onslaught is an awesome label. every release has been nothing but honest, quality underground metal. shitty label, shitty bands, shitty person. you're a minority. shitty handle, shitty attitude, shitty taste in music, anonymous crusaders lose. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 1:09am - Dissector ""] anonymous said:ninkaszi said:bestial onslaught is an awesome label. every release has been nothing but honest, quality underground metal. shitty label, shitty bands, shitty person. you're a minority. Somebody is sour Alex didn't sign his band. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 1:12am - BornSoVile ""] The whole CSDO thing is blown over. This all happen cause of last year when they opened for Cannibal Corpse, right!? Was Eric a dick about it, Yes. DON'T LET IF FUCKING RUIN YOU'RE LIFE. SHUT THE FUCK UP. RUN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT HIM WHEN YOUR HIS AGE AND HAD A BAND FOR 20 YEARS. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 1:38am - BestialOnslaught ""] Haha all this just because I pointed out what band some dude was in... |
| _____________________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 1:39am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Bestial Onslaught is a great label, it's one I was actually hoping to work with some day with Extinction Agenda. The bands are all pretty interesting, and also diverse. I think he's just selective about what he wants, and there is nothing wrong with that, in fact it's the hallmark of a good record label to sign what you believe in. Abigal, Adolf Satan, Cryostasium, Superchrist, this is all interesting material. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 1:42am - ninkaszi ""] anonymous said:ninkaszi said:bestial onslaught is an awesome label. every release has been nothing but honest, quality underground metal. shitty label, shitty bands, shitty person. you're a minority. and you sir are a gay shitpipe. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 1:46am - abhorred ""] Dissector said: Somebody is sour Alex didn't sign his band. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 10:43am - Jesus_Slaves ""] um....yes i am in Sacreligion, i dont get what that means. does it denote lambasting and berating? |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 15,2005 10:45am - Jesus_Slaves ""] i wasnt insulting anyone, or CSDO. those guys have been cool as hell to us when we have played together. just commenting. |