| Now Find a show to go to! Aug 13 (Sun) - 'Locobazooka!' - Tweeter Center + Aug 13 (Sun) - Alice In Chains - Tweeter Center + Locobazooka 2006[views:25730][posts:149][show listing] _________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 8:11am - ichabod ""] anonymous said:More people talking shit about something that could benefit them. Mistress Cary's posting anonymously on the RTTP board! How the fuck does paying to play benefit anyone other than the greedy promoter(s)??? You're not "helping" me unless your putting some $ in MY pockets or giving me something more than 15 minutes on stage on someone else's gear in front of a herd of sheople. God damn, how hard is it to figure this one out!?!? |
| _________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 8:16am - ichabod ""] Last year some chick contacted us to play locobazooka; she knew our album titles and songs, and went on about how everyone involved in the event would LOVE to see us on the bill, etc. We thought she was sincere and although we were skeptical due to the nature of the event, we looked further into it....ends up she was just soliciting us like all the rest, wanted "X" amount of money for tickets upfront, yada, yada ,yada. Needless to say we told her to piss off. She was nothing more than a salesperson, one who did just a bit of homework before contacting us, thinking she'd woo us by knowing so much about the band. Fucking hooker. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 8:34am - dwellingsickness ""] This "Fest" and I use the term loosely, Should be wiped off the face of the planet |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 9:16am - everpessimistnow ""] heh, you all have valid points, and its a shame that people are trying to trick you. but thats a fact of life in general, and in music, its even more prevalent. these things exist because bands pick up the bills man. and i think the point is that you have to bring a small army of fans (or friends or family members) with you that will pass out flyers blah blah. just playing the show isnt enough, but it doesnt differ from other shows in that respect. you cant just go to a dive bar, play a gig for a $40.00 bar tab and expect that everyone in the place is going to remember you or care to, you have to work the crowd and give them a reason to like you, good music isnt enough. this event is really expensive, but if you attack it you might get a good number of fans out of it. and i agree the set times bite, and the shared gear isnt good either, but i have seen the same things happen at regular local shows, so i guess you just have to adapt and be innovative. it sucks, but its reality. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 11:51am - Josh_hates_you ""] haha. from the site it looks like Burn in Silence is a headliner. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 11:56am - Jugulator ""] Its cool that CSDO are on the bill this year.But Im not paying $40 to see them.I'll be seeing them with Godless Rising July 14th in Oxford |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 12:32pm - everpessimistnow ""] Jugulator said:Its cool that CSDO are on the bill this year.But Im not paying $40 to see them.I'll be seeing them with Godless Rising July 14th in Oxford that looks like a good show. i think i am going to that too. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 3:00pm - anonymous ""] everpessimistnow said: you cant just go to a dive bar, play a gig for a $40.00 bar tab and expect that everyone in the place is going to remember you or care to, you have to work the crowd and give them a reason to like you, good music isnt enough. this event is really expensive, but if you attack it you might get a good number of fans out of it. Are you trying to convince US, or yourself??? I respectfully disagree that you can't carve out your niche by playing dive bars and never doing these pay to play fests...I can think of many, many bands that have great followings who'd never play a chump fest like locobazooka, or any such nonsense. And great music IS enough; people will eventually take notice of you if you just keep doing your thing, and it's good. Lastly, in reference to your "get a good number of fans out of it" point, who the fuck wants locobazookians as "fans" in the first place??? I'd rather play to an O'Brien's full of fuckers with integrity than some soccer stadium full of retards. Yeesh...but good luck, may your ozzfest dreams come true!:spineyes: |
| _________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 4:51pm - mcmahon ""] i dont care who plays as long as the sound is decent and doesn't make me feel disoriented to the point where I can't tell if they are playing or doing a soundcheck. who hasn't been apart of the 'stadium of retards' at one time or another? To me, bands who have their shit together and play in basements and dark bars have a responsibility to show stadium fans they can compete with stadium bands. Stadium fan sees non-stadium band and later supports more basement and dark bar shows. That's an advantage to playing large stadium shows. It's a lot of work to sell tickets, not to mention ponying up the cash to get started. Playing the show will probably the easiest part of the experience. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 10:35pm - everpessimistnow ""] mcmahon said:To me, bands who have their shit together and play in basements and dark bars have a responsibility to show stadium fans they can compete with stadium bands. Stadium fan sees non-stadium band and later supports more basement and dark bar shows. and thats the whole point of the event. i agree that these pay to play shows are often unfair to bands, but 'stadium fans' are fans nonetheless and a majority of them are younger people who don't even know that a local scene exisits. and i also agree that it is the responsibilty of local bands to represent themselves at large events, thats how the scene is pushed forward. if more local band members/supporters went to shows both large and small and talked to fans there, they might establish a better 'following', not to mention expose people to the scene that may become long-time supporters of local music. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 27,2006 11:05pm - everpessimistnow ""] anonymous said: I respectfully disagree that you can't carve out your niche by playing dive bars and never doing these pay to play fests...I can think of many, many bands that have great followings who'd never play a chump fest like locobazooka, or any such nonsense. And great music IS enough; people will eventually take notice of you if you just keep doing your thing, and it's good. Lastly, in reference to your "get a good number of fans out of it" point, who the fuck wants locobazookians as "fans" in the first place??? I'd rather play to an O'Brien's full of fuckers with integrity than some soccer stadium full of retards. Yeesh...but good luck, may your ozzfest dreams come true!:spineyes: you definitely can carve out a 'niche' playing local bars and clubs, but everyone on this board has been to a show where fucken awesome bands played to a crowd of 3 people. why? because normal everyday joe 'stadium fans' don't even know that there is a good local scene. they haven't heard your music, and they don't care to because they don't know who the fuck you are. and i agree that there are some great locals that have awesome followings, but they didn't get them just by playing shows, they talked to people, made new friends, and promoted their ideas. they made sure everyone knew who they were, and they played a good show. if good music was enough, there wouldn't be these 'fests', bands wouldn't need myspace or websites, they wouldn't have mailing lists, and they wouldn't need flyers. people would just come out to shows by word of mouth alone. and a 'locobazookian' is just a person who hasnt been to O'Breins yet, heh. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 28,2006 8:23am - ichabod ""] ...I need Rich Horror to chime in right about now with a synopsis of this, worded as only Rich Horror can word it... |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 28,2006 9:22am - Josh_Martin ""] Uh, I didn't need to go to gay fucking festivals full of gay fucking bands to find out about good underground bands. If people don't care enough to find shit out for themselves then they deserve the shitty music they're going to get stuck listening to. Fuck them and I don't give a shit if they ever hear or see my band. If I was in this to be popular and make money my band would sound gay just like every band on this gayass locobazooka jewish piece of shit festival. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 28,2006 11:18am - ichabod ""] Josh_Martin said:Uh, I didn't need to go to gay fucking festivals full of gay fucking bands to find out about good underground bands. If people don't care enough to find shit out for themselves then they deserve the shitty music they're going to get stuck listening to. Fuck them and I don't give a shit if they ever hear or see my band. If I was in this to be popular and make money my band would sound gay just like every band on this gayass locobazooka jewish piece of shit festival. ..And Josh, when I introduced myself at the Abhorred show and said I loved your RTTP posts, THIS is why!!! HAHAHAHA! I couldn't agree more with what you've said, and it's what I've been saying throughout this post. Bravo. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 28,2006 3:55pm - everpessimistnow ""] Josh_Martin said:Uh, I didn't need to go to gay fucking festivals full of gay fucking bands to find out about good underground bands. hahaha, i didnt either, but i dont go to local shows that have 20,000 people at them, so something has gone amiss. i have been to a ton of local shows that kicked the ass of stadium shows, but thats the way it goes i guess. and as for money, i didnt think it was about that, its a tragedy that its become that way, but welcome to capitialism, heh. either way, im going to see Candy Striper Death Orgy and now Meliah Rage whom i have never seen. i am sure it will be a good time, and as for the other bands on this, ehh. ive never even heard of most of them, so who knows, maybe ill be surprised. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2006 3:58pm - nick ""] hahaha oh shit ra. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 28,2006 4:04pm - notorious_D.U.G. ""] DreamingInExile said:Jugulator said:f u have this THRASHFEST,u gotta try and get Testament on the bill.They havnt played a show in New England since 1996. wrong, I saw them in Waterbury CT on the 'The Gathering' tour, which is still one of the best shows I've ever been to 2000 - 5/05 WATERBURY, CT - CITY LIMITS was the show That show was fucking great. That was the place co-owned by Jamie Jasta right? I used to live about a mile and a half from there. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 1,2006 12:33pm - everpessimistnow ""] The New Lineup--- Travis Meeks - Days Of The New Socialburn Black Stone Cherry The Neighborhoods Mardo Down At Dawn Edge City Outlaws 12 Step Program Escape To Everything Shadows Of Light Short Fuse Y69 Splitsense Seis Pistos Broken Mindz My Alibi The Out-Siders Better Left Unsaid Shavahawk Crooked M-16 Hexerei Leaving Eden Thout Kreagen Shattersphere Candy Striper Death Orgy A Breed Apart Change Of System Pendulum Theory Lucid Sky Ionia 25Affair Crazy Jane Eulogy XL Jaded Purenform Cherry S/T Skulltoboggan Meliah Rage |
| __________________________________ [Jul 1,2006 1:37pm - Jugulator ""] The only bands Ive heard of on that list are CSDO and Meliah Rage.Are the others even Metal bands? |
| __________________________________ [Jul 1,2006 1:38pm - Jugulator ""] everpessimistnow said:Josh_Martin said:Uh, I didn't need to go to gay fucking festivals full of gay fucking bands to find out about good underground bands. hahaha, i didnt either, but i dont go to local shows that have 20,000 people at them, so something has gone amiss. i have been to a ton of local shows that kicked the ass of stadium shows, but thats the way it goes i guess. and as for money, i didnt think it was about that, its a tragedy that its become that way, but welcome to capitialism, heh. either way, im going to see Candy Striper Death Orgy and now Meliah Rage whom i have never seen. i am sure it will be a good time, and as for the other bands on this, ehh. ive never even heard of most of them, so who knows, maybe ill be surprised. Have fun sitting through the other 40 bands that you dont care about |
| __________________________________ [Jul 1,2006 8:22pm - Jugulator ""] I wonder how the Godless Rising/CSDO show in Oxford will be affected turn out wise since its the same night as the SOTU at Great Woods |
| _________________________________ [Jul 2,2006 12:08pm - whisky ""] Yer just pissed off cause your a disaffected shit who only likes music that would NEVER be selected to play for waaf shit birds. Stay in yer basment and jam out to Meligha rage and judge the world on what very little you know. Even Slayer pays for the civic centers it plays at. Money is recouped through merch...ya know that shirt your probably wearing right now! Its a Buisness and just cause you dont have the balls to put money were yer mouth is dont fuckin rag on those bands who would rather spend money to promote and forgoe things like a new car or another trendy tough guy tatto! well I must be getting back to the WAAF web site as I am missed buy the other Cock Rockers, as you will never be |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 6:22am - anonymous ""] whisky said:Yer just pissed off cause your a disaffected shit who only likes music that would NEVER be selected to play for waaf shit birds. Stay in yer basment and jam out to Meligha rage and judge the world on what very little you know. Even Slayer pays for the civic centers it plays at. Money is recouped through merch...ya know that shirt your probably wearing right now! Its a Buisness and just cause you dont have the balls to put money were yer mouth is dont fuckin rag on those bands who would rather spend money to promote and forgoe things like a new car or another trendy tough guy tatto! well I must be getting back to the WAAF web site as I am missed buy the other Cock Rockers, as you will never be Fuck you. You're an ass pirate, you play a 7 string guitar, you can't spell worth a damn, and you have the grammar of a 4th grader. So go put your money to better use than to pay-to-play-gayfest and take a remedial english class instead. You'll go much further in life by doing that than by your pursuit of the nu-metal grail. Faggot. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 11:33am - Cecchini ""] whisky said:Yer just pissed off cause your a disaffected shit who only likes music that would NEVER be selected to play for waaf shit birds. Stay in yer basment and jam out to Meligha rage and judge the world on what very little you know. Even Slayer pays for the civic centers it plays at. Money is recouped through merch...ya know that shirt your probably wearing right now! Its a Buisness and just cause you dont have the balls to put money were yer mouth is dont fuckin rag on those bands who would rather spend money to promote and forgoe things like a new car or another trendy tough guy tatto! well I must be getting back to the WAAF web site as I am missed buy the other Cock Rockers, as you will never be Don't you get what this show is REALLY about?! If there was something good that comes out of it for bands shitloads more would jump on it, but the truth is 99% of the time your gonan show up, play, go home being no bigger than you were the night before. Who does this show benefit?! THE PROMOTER! You agree to a contract with them where you sell X amount of dollars, that X amount covers nearly all the costs of the promoters typically, so if nobody shows up they still get their cash! Thats why they do it, you could sit there and play to a big empty field with just the other bands watching and it wouldn't matter because the promoter got his money to pay for the bands, security, venue etc... The only difference is he took it out of your ass instead of you pissing hours of your life away selling overpriced tickets to whoever will buy them. Most of these fests have agreements with bands where if you don't cough up the cash they can take you to court to get the rest of it... it's blatant assrape. The worst about this show is how the promoters act under the guise that they are trying to help the local bands when in fact they are doing SHIT for them. They are using the local acts as a safety net to cover their ass if the show goes for broke. So before you knock people on this board for putting down this pay to play bullshit show, look at yourself first and realise that what your doing is just supporting a bullshit policy that is structured to more cripple local bands than help them. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 11:37am - SteveOTB ""] I just heard it costs $8,000.00 to get on this show and you need to sell 100 tickets but I could be wrong. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 11:46am - Cecchini ""] the shittiest part of this show is big shovel of BULLSHIT the promoters feed you saying how much its gonna help your band, it's gonna do shit because most people who listen to WAAF are meatheads... They want to show up and see their new favorite nu metal band that WAAF constantly plays and thats it. If promoters REALLY want to help local bands heres what you can do: 1. When headliners come through and need local openers get bands that actually FIT WITH THE HEADLINER. If a death metal band comes through why are a chunk of their local openers metalcore or nu metal bands?! Oh yea cause the promoter just gives a shit about who agrees to sell tickets first, not for putting on the best show possible. 2. Do not FORCE bands to sell tickets to play your show, thats fuckin rubbish. Keep the money at the door if you want and give bands tix to sell for an OPTIONAL profit, thats pretty fair I would say. A majority of bands around here know how to spread the word and get the show out to people... Plus what exactly is the job of a promoter?! Oh yea, to promote. 3. Give new bands the chance. I know every show needs bands that can draw, but every band has to start from scratch at some point. You want to prove your worth to helping local bands, throw a new band on the middle of a show so people can actually hear them. 4. Shut down this loco-bullshit show. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 12:02pm - SteveOTB ""] Cecchini said:the shittiest part of this show is big shovel of BULLSHIT the promoters feed you saying how much its gonna help your band, it's gonna do shit because most people who listen to WAAF are meatheads... They want to show up and see their new favorite nu metal band that WAAF constantly plays and thats it. If promoters REALLY want to help local bands heres what you can do: 1. When headliners come through and need local openers get bands that actually FIT WITH THE HEADLINER. If a death metal band comes through why are a chunk of their local openers metalcore or nu metal bands?! Oh yea cause the promoter just gives a shit about who agrees to sell tickets first, not for putting on the best show possible. 2. Do not FORCE bands to sell tickets to play your show, thats fuckin rubbish. Keep the money at the door if you want and give bands tix to sell for an OPTIONAL profit, thats pretty fair I would say. A majority of bands around here know how to spread the word and get the show out to people... Plus what exactly is the job of a promoter?! Oh yea, to promote. 3. Give new bands the chance. I know every show needs bands that can draw, but every band has to start from scratch at some point. You want to prove your worth to helping local bands, throw a new band on the middle of a show so people can actually hear them. 4. Shut down this loco-bullshit show. Definately, giving a band an option to sell tickets is a good idea and I competely agree on having bands that fit the actual bills. Mark's Show Place seems like they'll throw anyone on with any national that play there. Giving unknown bands a chance by putting them on bigger shows will really help them get their name out and more promoters should really start doing that. Promoters are getting so lazy these days by booking the shows, having the bands advertise them, and that's all they really do now it seems with the exception of a few. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 12:23pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] whisky said:Yer just pissed off cause your a disaffected shit who only likes music that would NEVER be selected to play for waaf shit birds. Stay in yer basment and jam out to Meligha rage and judge the world on what very little you know. Even Slayer pays for the civic centers it plays at. Money is recouped through merch...ya know that shirt your probably wearing right now! Its a Buisness and just cause you dont have the balls to put money were yer mouth is dont fuckin rag on those bands who would rather spend money to promote and forgoe things like a new car or another trendy tough guy tatto! well I must be getting back to the WAAF web site as I am missed buy the other Cock Rockers, as you will never be Trust me, if you were really wanted at this festival, or successful, you would not be paying thousands of dollars to be on a completely miscast bill. Regardless of their style of music, the majority of the rock bands on this bill will not achieve mainstream success. You can tell by simply listening to the lack of quality in their songwriting (check out any of their homepages), which is not even on par with the latest stuff you'd hear on the WAAF rotation, much of which is already gayer than a male Nightwish fan. People are going to go to this for Alice in Chains or another major label act, and maybe a few brave metalheads for CSDO and Meliah Rage. They do not care right now about 80% of the bill, and they will not care once they walk out of there either. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 12:38pm - SteveOTB ""] Seriously there's only like 2 band I'd want to see on that bill. Those being Alice In Chains and Jaded. We played with Jaded this weekend and they were an all girl old school metal band. Kind of reminded me of L7 with a more metal/punk flair to them. The chic guitarist was fucking insane, she was doing sweeps, tapping, and her playing was so smooth. At one point she stood up on the bar and started playing the solo for Van Halen's "Eruption". Pretty nuts. Plus they were all hot as hell. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jul 3,2006 12:39pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] L7 rules. I will have to listen to Jaded. I have heard the name. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 3:19am - everpessimistnow ""] Loco was a good idea gone horribly wrong. i miss when it was at green hill park, and you could see all kinds of new bands in a semi-intimate setting. its sad that its mostly a money-making event now, but thats how most of these things turn out. as for Mark's Rock Club, i think there are just too many cooks in the kitchen. for both local shows and stadium shows, the wires have been crossed. bands are in a position where they not only have to promote shows, but they have to have a good business sense, and that isnt a good position. in the end, it takes away from the quality of the show, which in turn reduces the amount of people that want to go to a local show. id rather see bands like NSN writting new stuff or getting recording time than having to sell tickets. i think loco has some decent qualities, but only if good bands take these bills, or plan their own, but again, that forces them into the logistics, like getting sound permits, and advertising, and things that bands may not even have any experience with. its pretty much a catch 22. this year, loco is costing an average of $9,000 with an average number of tickets @ 200 for each local band. part of the heightened cost is due to the venue, but its still an assrape, because one ticket sold at $37.50 through a band is more than enough to pay one staff member for 1 hour, so if you do the math, 30 local bands could/are probably handling all the cost of the show, and advertising is essentially free, both AAF and BCN are plugging it, either positively or negatively. but its a tough position to be in, i want to support CSDO and Meliah Rage, because i think they are good bands. im just hoping that the day will run smoothly, and maybe one or two of these other bands will be good, and that maybe some of the people there will be turned onto the local scene, which was supposed to be the intention of locobazooka in the first place. heh, anyone ever seen 'Wicked Wisdom'?! I can feel the awesome metal of Jada Pinkette-Smith under my skin already. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 11:27am - whisky ""] Wow yer so smart! I wont even defend against those coments except to say WRONG on every level. This site seems to have the hatred of a white power movment and for what? Most of you guys are going to the fuckin show but are gonna rip it up just so yer freinds dont think you like Nickleback (and inside you do) But if you dont rob somone for your ticket then I guess you to are sucker for paying $8.50 per band some of whom you might dig. Without drawing fire on my fellow band mates I speak for myself But Ill be playing for 20,000 people including you if your not indisposed whilst vomiting up a well spent $20.00. See ya at the show! SPORTS FANS! |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 11:48am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] please keep the whiskey outta this |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 12:46pm - Jugulator ""] whisky said:Wow yer so smart! I wont even defend against those coments except to say WRONG on every level. This site seems to have the hatred of a white power movment and for what? Most of you guys are going to the fuckin show but are gonna rip it up just so yer freinds dont think you like Nickleback (and inside you do) But if you dont rob somone for your ticket then I guess you to are sucker for paying $8.50 per band some of whom you might dig. Without drawing fire on my fellow band mates I speak for myself But Ill be playing for 20,000 people including you if your not indisposed whilst vomiting up a well spent $20.00. See ya at the show! SPORTS FANS! And the majority of those 20,000 people are gonna be the ones who dont like old school 80s/early 90s Death and Thrash Metal.Most will be kids/teens who think that Nickleback,Korn and Rob Zombie are Metal.I wont support any kind of commercial crap.The underground scene needs way more help in surviving than the mainstream does.Fuck this tour!!!!! |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 1:06pm - Distrust-Kevin ""] When Distrust was going, We played Milwaukee Metalfest twice, and New Jersey Metalmeltdown twice, and had to pay $ 1000 to Jack Kishick promotions. This is the same thing just on a bigger scale. Even the "true metalfests" had the same PAY TO PLAY bullshit. It sux u just can't avoid it even country and all other music has to deal with it in some way or another. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 1:16pm - Josh Martin NLI ""] Distrust-Kevin said:When Distrust was going, We played Milwaukee Metalfest twice, and New Jersey Metalmeltdown twice, and had to pay $ 1000 to Jack Kishick promotions. Koshick is a notorious rip off. In the old AC days he booked us to play that November to Dismember thing in Texas. He used our name on all the ads and promo. I know a bunch of kids got tickets because we were playing. Then, less than two weeks before the show, our plane tickets hadn't shown up yet. I tried to contact him to find out what was going on. He never responded. Then, one week before the showm our name was taken off the website. Basically he never had any intention of flying us out. He just used our name to sell tickets. He's done the same thing with several other bands too. Mostly European ones. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 1:26pm - Distrust-Kevin ""] Thats funny cuz one of the NJ fests, (cant remember which one) Napalm Death was supposed to play and didn't. Wonder if maybe same thing happened with them. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 2:01pm - Jugulator ""] The NJ metalfest was pretty cool back in 2003.To bad those fests are no more. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 10:50pm - Dankill ""] The fact of the matter this year is: This is so far one of the worst line ups Loco has ever had. I'm not talking about quality, per say, as much as number. They have like 5 headline bands, most of which has little or no airplay and the main headliner is the remains of a once great band with a dead lead singer. I remember when they had a lot of bands they actually played or bands that had a serious pull. Remember when one year could have Primus, Kid ock, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Machine Head, Faith No More, Static X, Korn, ect. They got NO ONE this year. 90% of it is locals no one has ever heard of! They don't even have the Harder Faster stage anymore which was becoming one of the main draws of the past two years. I'm not saying these bands are great by any means, but lets think about this. If you were booking this bill and compared it to past locos with a $60 price tag, does it match up at all to REALLY draw people??? NO, IT DOESN'T! Either the booker has fucked up big time or something is wrong. Funny side note, I have a source inside this whole deal who told me funny stories about last year. They had a chance to book Avenged Sevenfold, but passed on them for Dope, because they'd never heard of them. They even put up a poll on the WAAF and Loco message boards asking the people to pick between A7X and Dope. A7X won by a landslide and still didn't get booked. Dope was a one hit wonder that hadn't been in rotation on WAAF in 6-7 years. 4-5 months later, they are all over A7X's nuts and have "Bat Country" on all the time. Also, they had a choice between booking Clutch or Lamb of God. They picked Clutch over a price difference of $1000. Granted, I like Clutch, Lamb of God has a huge draw and $1000 extra for a huge notiable draw like that is a no brainer for a large festival and they blew it! Plus, What the hell is the point of going to the Tweeter Center?! That has to be more expensive then Green Hill Park or the Fitchberg airport. Plus, it limits the overall room for stages and playing. The local bands get worse every year, whereas years back you could see some REAL underground Hardcore and Metal bands play there and sell less tickets for less money. It just gets worse and worse every year and just boggles my mind in terms of just pure business. It leads me to believe one thing. They absolutely 100% do not give a damn at all anymore. And yes, IT'S A FUCKING SCAM! I'm happy for my friends in Burn In Silence to get the chance to play this show without all the crap in selling tickets and whatnot, but the fact remains that this is the worst line up for Loco ever and it may do minimal for them aside from blowing away some meatheads that don't even know dick about metalcore. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 12:00am - Distrust-Kevin ""] Dankill said: one of the worst line ups Loco has ever had. They got NO ONE this year. 90% of it is locals The local bands get worse every year, whereas years back you could see some REAL underground Hardcore and Metal bands how do u know these bands suck when u aint heard em yet |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 5:45am - everpessimistnow ""] hey i like nickelback! :doublehorns: |
| _________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 8:47am - SteveOTB ""] I stopped going to Locobazooka when they started going to the Fitchburg Airport Base. Greenhill Park was flat out awesome there because it was smaller, more shaded, and you definately didn't need to run forever to get to another stage plus when I used to go there were 3 stages so I'm not sure how many there are this time. The lineup in the past Locobazooka's used to be great and overall it was a good time. Now it's just completely going down hill in my eyes. It is a rip off for the bands. I don't know if any of these bands can actually sell 200 tickets and I don't know if you can make money off this but I've always hated selling tickets. But hey if a band can sell 200 tickets at the drop of a hat then to eaches own. I just don't think it's worth it. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 9:21am - Josh_Martin ""] everpessimistnow said:hey i like nickelback! :doublehorns: We figured that. You still haven't figured out that you're being made fun of, have you? |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 1:37pm - everpessimistnow ""] make fun all you'd like nickelback is soooo 'core! pfff |
| _____________________________ [Jul 5,2006 3:30pm - Yeti ""] its just too bad that barely anyone works together. a band will step on your face to get one fraction of a step ahead of you, then bitch about "unity" when they are stepped on. i personally dont think there is any saving of the local scene. it will collapse before it gets any better. its easy for those that have friends in the scene and are "popular" local acts to say that things are fine. but when a band tries to emerge, if they arent cookie cutter they are just shit on. i think its up to the bands to boycott Loco in order to help support the local scene, but again, its all about getting one step ahead. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 11:28pm - Dankill ""] Cuz if I haven't heard em yet, there is a reason for it! |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 13,2006 9:48am - anonymous ""] AIC can throw any front man up there because the real Alice In Chains isn't Layne, it's Jerry Cantrell. Most of you thrashers don't realize it because all you know is a mush of speeding instruments and gargling vocals. Jerry is the voice that makes all the Alice signature harmonies that made AIC famous in the first place. Jerry wrote all the songs because Layne was in heroin loserville all the time. I can't wait to see Jerry in chains because they will be better than Layne in Chains!!!!!! |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 13,2006 10:46am - xanonymousxx ""] i think instead of the harder faster stage they said you could go free to last nights sthresstour at the palladium? |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 13,2006 10:47am - xanonymousxx ""] the fools are playing |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 14,2006 12:06pm - anonymous ""] Travis Meeks kicked ass |