Due to its success, History Channel made 'Ancient Aliens' a series[views:29872][posts:142]__________________________________ [Jan 14,2011 3:42am - Samantha ""] [img] |
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| ____________________________________ [Jan 14,2011 3:44am - arilliusbm ""] bennyhillifier |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 5,2011 6:36am - arilliusbm ""] New season started last week. Didn't see it.. Anyone watch it? Only pseudoscience is... pseudo? |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 5,2011 8:03am - the_reverend ""] I was watching it last night. I think it was a new one... but it sucked. |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 9,2011 10:59am - FuckIsMySignature ""] arilliusbm said:New season started last week. Didn't see it.. Anyone watch it? Only pseudoscience is... pseudo? when is this on? cant find it on demand. boo. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 9,2011 11:29am - Samantha ""] The most recent episode I saw was about cowboys and aliens. This show gets more ridiculous over time. I think they're running out of ideas. |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 9,2011 11:31am - FuckIsMySignature ""] ugh. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 9,2011 12:04pm - Sacreligion ""] Not only do the ideas get more ridiculous, but it seems like they talk about things as fact when they were just proposing ideas in previous episodes. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 9,2011 12:42pm - arilliusbm ""] It's all about ratings now. Last season. |
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| ______________________________ [Aug 9,2011 12:48pm - ark ""] arilliusbm said:In light of Peter Steele's supposed death, here's some good news Peete steele is dead?!??! Man I hope ancient aliens is on!! |
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| ______________________________________ [Sep 8,2011 10:17pm - the_reverend ""] new episode on now. |
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| ____________________________________ [Sep 9,2011 12:13am - arilliusbm ""] that be mine |
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| _________________________________ [Jan 16,2012 12:34pm - burnsy ""] hahaha |
| _________________________________ [Jan 16,2012 1:25pm - the_mex ""] YUS |
| __________________________________ [Jan 16,2012 1:32pm - SSKKKZZ ""] I hear Scott from Zircon is an ancient alien. he is locked away in another dimension forever. |
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| _________________________________________ [Apr 13,2012 8:13pm - Headbanging_Man ""] sacreligion said:In all seriousness, it is my opinion that the burning of the library at Alexandria was a greater crime against humanity than the Holocaust. OK, now this is just fucking retarded. A greater crime against human knowledge, almost certainly, but the Nazis executed at least 10 million people. Some of you need to check up on your definition of "crimes against humanity". |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 12:18am - motley grue ""] Nah, the burning of the Libary of Alexandria was far more devastating than killing 10 million people, ancient/lost forbidden knowledge far outweighs a statistic. We may know how 10 million people died, but we dont know what was truely lost in that libary that will never be known again. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 12:30am - Burnsy ""] Yeah cuz we would've been far more advanced because of all the crazy machines they had invented and documented how they built them in the books stored at that library. 10 Millions lives lost in the name of elitism, just a stat. Get bent. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 1:10am - arillius_the_white ""] wait, the what and the who what? mainstream estimations are usually 5-6 million. Even that number is highly questioned, depending on the source. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 1:14am - arillius_the_white ""] and lol @ comparing human life to ancient knowledge. not worthy of the comparison. apples and oranges (a phrase burnsy loves) |
| ________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 1:29am - Burnsy ""] arillius_the_white said: apples and oranges (a phrase burnsy loves)LOL @ You knowing that. And regarding ancient knowledge... whateva. Sure it sounds cute that they had so much knowledge, but I'm gonna step out on a flimsy limb and say that mankind... is slightttttttly more advanced than Egyptians in 48 BC. Tsoukalos need not apply. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 1:34am - arillius_the_white ""] That doesnt matter. I guarantee you that religion would be completely different today had that not been lost. It's all about the antediluvian world. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 1:41am - Burnsy ""] arillius_the_white said: religion would be completely different today Agreed |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 2:40am - Headbanging_Man ""] Hey, I'm no fan of crimes against books, but they are not crimes against humanity. And far more people were exterminated by the Nazi death machine than scrolls were destroyed over the course of several centuries in Alexandria... 700,000 scrolls isn't very impressive as a statistic, if you want to boil it down to an issue of quantity. I'm using the broader definition of the Holocaust... 6 million-ish Jews, plus 5 to 10 million other "undesirables". |
| _____________________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 10:24am - arillius_the_white ""] Word. Fact of the matter is, both should have never happened. Not only do we live in a post-911 world, we're still living in a post-holocaust world. Look at how successful the idea of Israel has been. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 14,2012 11:51am - arktouros ""] sum of human knowledge vs. sum of human experience. FIGHT [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 18,2012 6:55pm - Headbanging_Man ""] I heard a much more likely theory about the origin and purpose of the pyramids last night, circa 1:50 through 2:35: bennyhillifier |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 18,2012 7:38pm - Sacreligion ""] Headbanging_Man said:Hey, I'm no fan of crimes against books, but they are not crimes against humanity. And far more people were exterminated by the Nazi death machine than scrolls were destroyed over the course of several centuries in Alexandria... 700,000 scrolls isn't very impressive as a statistic, if you want to boil it down to an issue of quantity. I'm using the broader definition of the Holocaust... 6 million-ish Jews, plus 5 to 10 million other "undesirables". Yeah. It probably only took 100s of millions of lives to acquire that knowledge. But it was burned away because the writings contained within were undesirable. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 18,2012 8:01pm - Headbanging_Man ""] That is utter nonsense. There are no signs of wide literacy in ancient societies, and most likely the (maximum) 700,000 scrolls represented the works of tens of thousands of scholars, not millions. A lot of the scrolls were your typical Greek plays about gay cowboys eating pudding, hardly hidden or secretive knowledge. There is no real historical consensus about the destruction either; just as many works may have disappeared through the aging/degradation of the papyrus as any of the various apocryphal fires. There are at least 3 legends of the burning of the Library, and none of the 3 is based on empirical or concurrent sources. Did Caesar burn it in 48 BC, a Christian Patriarch in the 300's AD, or a Muslim in 640? How many buildings housed the collection, when was each destroyed, and how much of the collection was in them at the time of destruction? Would many of the scrolls have aged and disappeared over the course of 7+ centuries anyway? The answer to all these questions is: Who knows??? All of that aside, of course it was still NOT a crime against humanity, by technical definition, though the murder of 10 million plus European civilians pretty much fits the definition to a T. Nice try though. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 18,2012 8:14pm - Sacreligion ""] Nope. The pursuit of mankind is the pursuit of knowledge. Regardless of who destroyed the library, they destroyed the lives of every person before that point as every living person had contributed to the knowledge that existed at the time whether they were literate or not. Also, saying "we don't know for sure" is not a sound argument to make whilst trying to undermine something we will definitely never know. Nice try though. |
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| _________________________________________ [Apr 18,2012 8:31pm - Headbanging_Man ""] It is a sound argument when we do not have any real historical sources that can definitively say that a portion or all of the collection was destroyed at a specific point in time. It's clear Caesar used fire in the city and may have damaged parts of the collection, and it's clear that Theophilus destroyed some pagan temples and artifacts, but again, not at all clear how this affected the collections tied to the Library. Therefore, we cannot even say that there was ever a deliberate destruction of and crime against knowledge. There is no proof that there was ever a deliberate purge of the works, merely that over time they disappeared, were destroyed, or lost. If we do know anything else for sure, why don't you enlighten us with a little evidence? The International Military Tribunal defines "Crimes against humanity: murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against civilian populations, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated." Clearly the Christian persecution of Pagans in 4th Century Alexandria would fit under the modern definition, but again, there is no evidentiary link between these events and the loss of the collection of the Library. Furthermore, most of the works in the Library were copies or copies were made from the stored originals, so it was not, by design, a sole repository, even if the passage of time made many of the contained works unique. The tragedy in the loss of the collection is just as likely rooted in the poor technological and intellectual understanding of archiving techniques at the time as it is in a deliberate attempt to snuff out religiously unpalatable material. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 18,2012 8:34pm - Headbanging_Man ""] I'm not a Jew, and I can joke about the Holocaust, but clearly you're not jesting in your dismissal of abundantly documented mass murder. That's just not a very good starting point, intellectually, if you're trying to argue a point about "crimes against humanity". |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 18,2012 8:36pm - Headbanging_Man ""] Err, just kidding... I base my historical beliefs on historical evidence, I'm obviously a total fucking kike. |