LOST s06E17/S06E18: "The End" (and the recap)[views:16131][posts:136]_________________________________ [May 24,2010 2:55pm - Doomkid ""] RustyPS said: Doomkid said: the MIB built the wheel to leave the island...that was in the episode two weeks ago Yeah but they never explained anything about how he was planning on doing that initially. And its not like the wheel was destroyed so why didn't he use it later like Ben did? And WHO BUILT THE TEMPLE/STATUE/LOST SEXY-TIME HOT TUB OF LIGHT? |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:06pm - aaron_michael ""] and then, in the end, BRUCE WILLIS IS A FUCKING GHOST AANYAAAAHAAAAAAAAA SHIT DAWG! |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:07pm - RustyPS ""] Doomkid said: RustyPS said: Doomkid said: the MIB built the wheel to leave the island...that was in the episode two weeks ago Yeah but they never explained anything about how he was planning on doing that initially. And its not like the wheel was destroyed so why didn't he use it later like Ben did? he still had to kill Jack to get off the island...that was one of the loopholes they had |
| ______________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:11pm - the_reverend ""] the MIB couldnt use the DW after becoming the smoke monster and the dharma initiative probably built the DW. or more likely some other group (like the guys MIB lead when they started). there is a scene where MIB as i believe christian sheperd gets locke or someone to turn the dw. |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:13pm - Doomkid ""] Yeah but thats after Ben pushes the wheel. And why can't the MiB push the wheel? Is that another one of these vague and amorphous 'rules' made up by Eve/Jacob? |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:29pm - RustyPS ""] he can't leave the island until the protector/candidates were dead, and he couldn't kill them himself until Desmond took that rock out of the hole....so yes, it was those 'rules' |
| _______________________________________________ [May 25,2010 1:45pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] the_reverend said: DreadKill said: IllinoisEnemaBradness said:so, it was Maggie that shot Mr. Burns? SWEEThahahahaha, awesomeno, it was santa's little helper. Santos L Halper |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:18am - arktouros ""] OKAY. I'm 2 1/2 years late to the party. This show is quite a fucking experience!! Deserved all the praise it got, tackled countless themes so well. Michael Emerson and Terry O'Quinn became a couple of my favorite actors. BlownUpJamPad said:So they all died in the plane crash and all their souls were stuck in a purgatory until they could find the light at the end of the tunnel False. Everyone was alive for a period of time. A couple months after the crash, Ben "moves the island", causing a series of time shifts to occur. During these time shifts, the Oceanic Six lives out their lives back at home, unaware that Sawyer, Julette, etc are skipping through time and get stuck in 1977. Those that hadn't died earlier on the island are still alive at this point, even if some are doing quantum leaps. Juliette triggers the nuke at the bottom of the hole at Dharma swan station (in 1977), that group gets transported back to 2007, the original timeline where Oceanic 815 crashed three years earlier. They find the hatch imploded. We can safely assume Dharma still built the Swan station after the "incident" alluded to the orientation videos. Notice Dr. Chang's prosthetic hand, and the Dharma Class of 1977 photo that Ben shows to Locke. The nuke explosion + EM activity caused what appeared to be a "shift" in the timeline since that point, an alternate timeline where the island is at the bottom of the ocean, there is no Swan station, Desmond never forgets to push that button in 2004 and Oceanic 815 never crashes. This isn't revealed to be "purgatory" until the final episode, which is simply a world they created in their afterlife, with certain events triggering their subconsciousness to realize that they were dead and it was time to go meet Mr. Shepard. Basically, Faraday's postulate about a linear timeline appears to be true, where they were unable to change the events of the past no matter how hard they tried. The events in 1977 "self-corrected" themselves as he explains. The Swan was still built, the "incident" still happened, Dharma still existed up to a certain point. It is still the "singular" timeline even if there were some events that didn't belong. Faraday was only half-right about the nuke fixing everything. The group was indeed transported back to their present time (give or take 3 years) however it did not cause the anomalies on the island to disappear, Desmond still forgot to press the button, and the plane still did crash. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:19am - arilliusbm ""] WHY I AM HALFWAY THRU SEASON THREE FUCK U |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:27am - arktouros ""] The biggest indicator that they were still alive way after the crash was the scene where Jack is taking his last breath next to Vincent, and sees Frank's plane flying above. Fucking fantasic scene and a great ending. We can assume Frank, Miles, Sawyer, Kate, and Claire died at some point after the crash for whatever reason. Hurley and Ben appeared to live quite a while after Jack replaces the cork and dies on the island, with Hurley telling Ben "you were a great number 2." I don't think it was a cop-out ending. They made the last episode about accepting death, I think it would have fell short with any other theme. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:27am - arktouros ""] arilliusbm said:WHY I AM HALFWAY THRU SEASON THREE FUCK U dude you click on this thread are you serious??? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:32am - arilliusbm ""] I highly doubt everyone in this thread watched every episode. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:35am - AndrewBastard ""] are you kidding me? I watched every single episode IN ORDER twice now. the first time was while it was still on the air (started after season 2 so I had to catch up) and the second time was only like 2 months ago. Probably will again someday. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:35am - RustyPS ""] I did When I was unemployed, the first 5 seasons were on Netflix instant, so I watched it all before the last season started. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:39am - arilliusbm ""] Only Ben is real. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:44am - arilliusbm ""] PLANE FULL OF MODELS AND ONE FAT GUY CRASHES ON MYSTERIOUS ISLAND. MORE AT 11 |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:48am - AndrewBastard ""] ITT: ARIL THINKS ALL THE DUDES ON LOST ARE HOT |
| __________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:49am - RustyPS ""] Evangeline Lilly = HOTTEST MIDGET EVAR |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:49am - arktouros ""] haha, keep in mind they were all hand-picked to be on that plane by a certain "character" AND SERIOUSLY GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:01pm - arktouros ""] Doomkid said: And WHO BUILT THE TEMPLE/STATUE/LOST SEXY-TIME HOT TUB OF LIGHT? Egyptians landed on the island at one point and built the statue of Tawaret (protection, birth, fertility), the other temples, and the somehow managed to harness the power of the well. It can be assumed that a few other discrete groups came both before and after the ancient Roman shipwreck that brought the mother of both Jacob and MiB. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:20pm - arktouros ""] the_reverend said:ben becomes richard. i was going to say false, but i see what you meant by that. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:24pm - arilliusbm ""] Lies. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:24pm - arilliusbm ""] ALL LIES |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:26pm - arktouros ""] Nah man, Jack said this was really happening. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 3:56pm - arktouros ""] also i'm SO GLAD THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE ANCIENT ALIENS ROUTE. PREPARE TO BE DISAPPOINTED THERE'S NO ALIENS> |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:00pm - arilliusbm ""] ALIENS HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS SHOW ONLY ALTERNATE REALITIES |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:04pm - arktouros ""] SEE YOU IN ANOTHER LIFE, BROTHER |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:28pm - the_reverend ""] arktouros said:The biggest indicator that they were still alive way after the crash was the scene where Jack is taking his last breath next to Vincent, and sees Frank's plane flying above. Fucking fantasic scene and a great ending. We can assume Frank, Miles, Sawyer, Kate, and Claire died at some point after the crash for whatever reason. Hurley and Ben appeared to live quite a while after Jack replaces the cork and dies on the island, with Hurley telling Ben "you were a great number 2." I don't think it was a cop-out ending. They made the last episode about accepting death, I think it would have fell short with any other theme. this. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:30pm - the_reverend ""] BTW: I started watching it again the other day. I also watched ever episode in around. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 6,2012 11:03am - arillius_the_white ""] Just finished. Teared up. I'mma pussy. Great show. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 6,2012 11:04am - the_reverend ""] truth. my face was leaking. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 6,2012 11:21am - AndrewBastard ""] i welled up as I stated above^^ I re-watched the entire season up to season 5 a few months ago...I need to re-watch season 6. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 10,2013 1:09pm - the_reverend ""] I miss the times that andrew and I used to have. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 1:13am - Spence ""] Excellent show and awesome thread. Even though I think the last three seasons definitely took turns I disagreed with and made choices that I didn't like(especially the last season), it still remained an awesome experience. Those first three seasons and most of the characters/actors were excellent, as was the soundtrack and a lot of the initial mysteries. Also, I too have watched every episode and in order. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 8:48am - the_reverend ""] I can't take that emotional roller coaster now. I need the office to end first and then I will go about that. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 9:07am - AndrewBastard NLI ""] When I did a rewatch I think I made it thru season 4...the other 2 seasons aren't as good and were still too fresh in my head to need a rewatch |
| _________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 10:26am - Spence ""] The last season and a half should just be renamed to "How the Iraqi fucked everything up for everyone." |