Top Ten Myths About Introverts[views:17588][posts:125]________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:02pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] arkquimanthorn said: timisfamous said: Personality tests are cookie cutter shit.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator ok Haha, yeah, this is just a little bit more objectively-observed-fact-based than "which Spice Girl are you?". |
| ________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:05pm - xmikex ""] A typical situation for me throughout my life is a group of people that I vaguely know but know each other get together and start talking. This is typical of meeting new co-workers, meeting a girlfriend's friends, and meeting other people's friends in general. The topics are strictly: people I've never met before, events I wasn't there to see, places I've never been, and inside jokes I would never get. I have no idea where I'm supposed to jump in, and nobody seems to give a shit that I'm there. So I go into my brain, mock the 2072 Patriots draft, play a guitar solo on Mars and bang Marilyn Monroe. When it's all said and done everyone looks at me and thinks "What the hell is that guy's problem?" Bam. Anti-social introvert label. What was I supposed to say? When was I supposed to say it? What if your stories aren't that interesting that I want to gab about them? The logical me knows that the sociable thing to do is to ask questions. But honestly, I've found that most people are content to close dissonant presences out of their conversation as long as it keeps them in the center of attention. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:09pm - Mark R ""] I comiserate with the above. RE the final sentence, asking questions of the get-to-know-you sort is something I can do when one-on-one, but in a group, it's like...HOW? |
| ________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:24pm - xmikex ""] Some people can dive right into a group conversation with strangers, and I admire them for that. I can't. But I constantly have to question just how much of it is me. Having a victim mentality about every day situations is a recipe for failure. I try to avoid it at all costs. But some things just don't add up. I can't goto parties. I get prison anxiety in party crowds, and when I meet a group of peers I feel like they're playing the one of these things does not belong here game. It ends up with me drifting off into my own world, and eventually pissing in somebody's shampoo (not a figure of speech). But on the other hand, when I throw a party everybody has fun and I make sure of it. I'm psyched to meet new people and welcome them into my home and share my food. If I see someone keeping to their self I'll go out of my way to engage them. If I know 2 people that aren't acquainted but should be I'll introduce them. I had a BBQ at my old apartment where a kid I had never met before got beaten to a bloody pulp outside my house by another party guest after a night of partying and STILL told me he had a great time. The problem can't be as simple as me being a social retard. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:25pm - arktripolius ""] SacreligionNLI said:But a lot of those questions were vague to begin with so I think the test overall is flawed. it's don't designed to reveal definite traits, but to derive tendencies. If you notice, many ofthe questions are vague on purpose and similar questions are worded differently |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:25pm - conservationist ""] Social norms are baffling to those who attempt to analyze them logically. Only sodomy is true! |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:29pm - timisfamous ""] arkquimanthorn said: timisfamous said: Personality tests are cookie cutter shit.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator ok I stand wikied. but seriously, what about it's non industrial uses? |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:32pm - arktripolius ""] I don't know, ask a psychoanalyst I guess or rtfa. INTJ knows what he does not know above all else. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:34pm - largefreakatzero ""] Also an INTJ. With a sales career. And I wonder why I'm miserable... Good points in the OP, though. Many were right on. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:44pm - ark ""] xmikex said: The problem can't be as simple as me being a social retard. mike, i'm the same way when it comes to foreign social situations vs. my own parties. your brain is telling you that you probably don't have anything to gain by interacting with that group or it's not worth your time. usually it's right. either i'm off banging marylin monroe or i find a group that is doing weird shit and is easier to connect with. finding a common thread with a group is difficult but i have managed one way or the other. a lot of it is environment. at shows, most are there for the same reason and it's not hard to keep yourself open. you are much more open to social possiblilites while in sanctuary, like at your own party. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:45pm - timisfamous ""] I'm INTJ ("master and commander") also. So when you see me don't be surprised if I don't walk right up and in a sincere way, inquire about your feelings. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:48pm - ark ""] haha. so that's why you were skeptical about this personality test horseshit. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:48pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Thing to always remember about Meyers-Briggs is that a) being "on the cusp" on any of the 4 axes is common enough, almost to where it could be considered a "third type" for each, and b) because of that, some folks will test differently depending on what day it is and how they're feeling. Doesn't "disprove" the test, just points out that you need to keep the context in mind when interpreting the results. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:51pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:52pm - timisfamous ""] Myer's briggs AKA The Chick Test |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 2:57pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] DestroyYouAlot said:Thing to always remember about Meyers-Briggs is that a) being "on the cusp" on any of the 4 axes is common enough, almost to where it could be considered a "third type" for each, and b) because of that, some folks will test differently depending on what day it is and how they're feeling. Doesn't "disprove" the test, just points out that you need to keep the context in mind when interpreting the results. like I actually test closer to Extrovert than you'd think, which makes no fucking sense to me, haha. Edit: Meanwhile, at least the last time I took the test, the other 3 axes were all EXACTLY at 62.5% "NTP". WEIRD. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 3:13pm - arkquimanthorn ""] that's 5/8 so the metric has 16 ticks on each of the 4 axes. you're not weird, you're just...coincidental. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 3:15pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] If the other score weren't 54.17%, I'd concur. haha. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 15,2011 3:32pm - Lamp ""] Your Type is INTJ Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging Strength of the preferences % 67 38 75 44 You are: distinctively expressed introvert moderately expressed intuitive personality distinctively expressed thinking personality moderately expressed judging personality Sounds about right. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 4:37pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] i used to be introverted as a kid. then i stopped giving a fuck. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 4:50pm - Woah!_Shut_It_Down! ""] Describes me pretty much perfectly. I dunno about the IQ thing, though. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 5:01pm - bobnomaamrooney ""] INFP por vida |
| __________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 5:15pm - SLAAAAG ""] TL;DR Currently drinking wine and espresso in a swanky french establishment in NYC, by myself. I don't care/don't want a label. Do what you want or kill yourself. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 5:19pm - SLAAAAG ""] Labeling yourself and personality only (imho) limit you. I don't to attach myself to a certain condition or trait. If I wasn't on my phone id go into more detail. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 5:35pm - arktripolius ""] Dude stfu. You are a certifiable introvert. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 5:44pm - SLAAAAG ""] Nothing is real. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 6:04pm - frankovhell ""] INTJ here. I've taken that test a few times in my life. Once for work and a few times on my own at home. I either get INTP or INTJ every time. If i'm drunk i'm totally extroverted though completely different all together. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 6:06pm - frankovhell ""] I also don't really believe in that test because people answer it by how they see themselves which isnt alltogether accurate some of the time. Also peoples brains change over time, sometimes quite drastically. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 15,2011 6:15pm - arktripolius ""] The best judge of personality types are others of the same type. I knew this board has way more INT- types. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 16,2011 10:47am - Yeti ""] my brother is the biggest introvert in history. anyone who has met him can vouch. if you don't know him, every one of those myths could be applied to him, but every debunking accurately describes him. being an extrovert has it's drawbacks too. basically the thing i hear from people the most is "SHUT THE FUCK UP". |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 10:54am - ouchdrummer ""] DestroyYouAlot said: DestroyYouAlot said: INTP, here, ouchdrummer said:Your Type is ESFJ This is me, shocked that we occasionally talk past each other. lol well, i don't think you're totally an "I".. just like i'm not totally an "E".. i think hatred of mankind forces you to be more "I" than would be natural for you... and i think I force myself to be more "E" than i really am, because i get more done that way. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 11:00am - arktouros ""] E has an easier time being a salesman. When I sold stuff I brought my E game. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 11:03am - largefreakatzero ""] arktouros said:E has an easier time being a salesman. When I sold stuff I brought my E game. Yeah, I always have to bring my "E" game to work, but I find it quite exhausting. I really want to get out of sales someday, but then again, I have no idea what I want to be when I grow up (which isn't good when you're 37). |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 11:09am - arktouros ""] I's are very capable of spurts of E...but they say the difference between true introverts and true extroverts, is introverts expel way more energy in social encounters than extroverts, who feed off of social encounters. I can spurt E all over the place, but I do need a lot of recharge time. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 11:20am - largefreakatzero ""] Yup, same here. I've taken MB and a Predictive Index test before, and they pretty much tell the same story. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 11:27am - the_reverend ""] everyone in this thread is a bullshitting asshole. IE should be avoided for firefox or chrome. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 12:42pm - ouchdrummer ""] arktouros said:I's are very capable of spurts of E...but they say the difference between true introverts and true extroverts, is introverts expel way more energy in social encounters than extroverts, who feed off of social encounters. I can spurt E all over the place, but I do need a lot of recharge time. i also feel drained when i spend too much time in big groups... it's fucking hard.. and i DEFINITELY feel drained after the "E" game i have to bring for work. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 12:43pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] This thread needs moar hard liqour. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 16,2011 1:22pm - Yeti ""] i spurt way too much E all over everyone. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 2:28pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] arktouros said:I's are very capable of spurts of E... XD |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 2:30pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SLAAAAG said:Labeling yourself and personality only (imho) limit you. I don't to attach myself to a certain condition or trait. If I wasn't on my phone id go into more detail. Impossibility fail. We live in a world of symbols; failing to describe them or use the information contained therein doesn't make them go away. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 3:18pm - xmikex ""] Shit just got post structuralist. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 3:20pm - Alx_Casket ""] The real INTJ's have already transcended the whole thread. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 3:47pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] xmikex said:Shit just got post structuralist. Anti-humanism is one of those things that, while pretty awesome, is not necessarily as awesome as it sounds like it should be. :D |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 3:48pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Like, the guys at the Large Hardon Collider are never gonna be able to synthesize antihuman, as cool as that would be. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 3:48pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Nor does it lead to tanks. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 3:49pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] (Humanity's greatest technological aspiration, obv.) |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 3:49pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SOME DAY |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 4:03pm - the_reverend ""] put a dick in it! |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 16,2011 4:13pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] DestroyYouAlot said:guys at the Large Hard-on Collider |