Jarrod’s Underground / Formerly – Jarrod’s Live Rock Venue THIS GUY HAS GOT TO BE THE DUMBEST PERSON IN THE WORLD[views:19538][posts:120]___________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 10:33am - subjugate ""] Jarrod’s Underground/ Formerly – Jarrod’s Live Rock Venue This letter is being sent to you because you are one of 50+ bands that were selected to perform at Jarrod’s in the next few months. Jarrod’s booking policy is now going to change once again. Bands that have had an average of (25) or more paid, have promoted their shows with the venue to the fullest and that are actually talented will be booked and put in a regular rotation. Bands in this category will also be asked to e-mail Jarrod Ilkowitz back or call him at your earliest conveinance to discuss a future date and update your band information as soon as possible. This will be highly appreciated. The local scene is dying and Jarrod’s is in the process of trying to change that by booking bands of the same genre and bands that have a great reputation for promoting their shows and selling tickets to help build great showcases. Jarrod’s is only booking live original bands on Fridays nights now and the set times will be available for 6 bands on this night starting August 13th,2004. Jarrod’s is going to be having a grand opening on July 24th w/ TNT productions/ DJ Cruz. Hip Hop/ R&B will be another type of music that Jarrod’s will now offer and specialize in. The new line-up for the week will be: Thursdays- TNT and DJ Cruz ( Hip Hop, R&B dance party) 18+ $10 Doors at 8:00pm Fridays- Local Music (selected by Jarrod only, only bands that have had a good reputation for promoting will be booked through the year) Saturdays- TNT and DJ Cruz (Hip Hop, R&B dance party) 21+ $10 Doors at 8:00pm Ladies $5 before 10:00pm Sundays- 3:00pm-7:00pm (all ages shows, all types of music) 8:00pm-12:00am All ages Dance party w/ DJ Cruz (techno,house,hip hop,R&B,Rap,Top 40) Sundays will be non smoking and non alcohol shows. Rules will be added soon. If your band is listed on this letterhead please contact me ASAP to book august through winter dates. Jarrod’s will be booking a full 6 month schedule and will not have any open dates for at least 6-8 months so, act now. I will guarantee you that you will be booked with bands of the same genre and bands that will promote and draw well. The days of playing with bands you might not fit in with or bands that have no draw power are over. We have formed a list of bands that are capable of pulling 50+ people every time and we are happy that we could gather this information by polling a survey every weekend for the past year. The tickets policy and payment scale may also change a bit. To benefit bands and the venue. Please call me ASAP. Thank you, Jarrod Ilkowitz/ Jarrod’s Underground 508-222-8878 Thursday or Friday 12-noon-4:00pm BANDS SELECTED TO PERFORM ARE: In no special order- 1. Lucid Sky 2. Splint 3. Setback 4. Systematic Chaos 5. Gut 6. Flatscan 7. The Lifted 8. Market St. 9. Trojan Defect 10. Fistagon 11. Overthrow 12. A New horizon 13. Annes Room 14. Next to nothing 15. Izinhower 16. Mastamindz 17. A breed apart 18. H-coil 19. Mcdunna band 20. Desired enemy 21. Four Eighty 4 22. Visual Pollution 23. Slowley growing deaf 24. Lost cause 25. Monophonic 26. Amateria 27. Falling Hero’s 28. Blocked Wish 29. Hemlock 30. Wretched Asylum 31. Stranglehold 32. BlackStone Valley Crew 33. LetDown 34. Almost Homeless 35. Final Hour 36. Of One Mind 37. Broken Skies 38. Livewire 39. III Kings 40. Tunnell Drill 41. Hypersolid 42. OZ 43. Teiousekkai 44. K’nypsyun 45. Twist Of Fate 46. Stoic 47. Slight Of Mind 48. Seduced By Madness 49. Scarecrow Hill 50. TripLock 51. The Suma City War 52. Wiskey Chapel 53. Whiskey Down 54. IO 55. Cold Steel Crown 56. Kurse 57. Big Bolt Deluxe 58. Ill Natured 59. Mourning Red Sky If your band isn’t listed here but, you still want to play at Jarrod’s in the next year please contact me as well. We will do the best we can to keep the scene going and your band on stage at Jarrod’s. Thank you, Jarrod Ilkowitz/ Jarrod’s Underground |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 10:42am - Josh_hates_you ""] hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha those hip hop shows will change the dying scene i bet. and from that list id say that is why his "scene" is dead. well at least there is one good band on that list. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 10:48am - subjugate ""] subjugate said: This letter is being sent to you because you are one of 50+ bands that were selected to perform at Jarrod’s in the next few months. to me he's just dumb for the above statement 1. cause he knows i hate him and his club 2. cause my band isn't even on the list |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 11:05am - Siberian ""] What exactly is so bad about Jarrod's? I've never been there but my friends band from up here has played there a couple times and they haven't said anything bad about the place. Just curious. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 11:06am - Mike@school ""] 3. everything he wrote defies logic. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 12:02pm - attendmyrequiem @ school ""] Actually most venues are doing this they just aren't so fucking open about it. I mean, I remember days when I'd go to a show at the paladium and would see a local act for the first time and would be happy. Now the venues need a draw so they book the same bands over and over and 90% of the time less people go each time because they keep seeing the same bands, so the venue books new bands, but no one shows up for these because they are unable to get show because they don't have a draw. did that make sense? I know what i meant to say, but I'm not sure if everyone will understand. all in all... that really sucks is my main point. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 12:04pm - Josh_hates_you ""] fuck the only band on that list i realy liked "Teiousekkai" broke up and now im pissed off. i only got to see them once. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 12:24pm - goratory ""] haha, we are banned from their I think because of the fire alarm getting pulled |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 12:38pm - SUBJUGATE ""] were banned cause i called his club gay on a message board and he threatend to sue me for slander too |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 12:50pm - Robdeadskin ""] Are all death metal bands banned from there..man!! The only bands I know that cant play there are DEATH METAL |
| __________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 2:43pm - Siberian ""] I know of lot's of clubs that will ban you if you slander them. There's a couple of them right up here in little ol' Burlington, VT. It's pretty much a common theme, you talk shit about a venue, why would they book you knowing how you feel about them and what you're telling people. Makes sense to me. A lot of bands take being in a band and playing shows for granted. Other's highly value the experience and try to get as much as they can out of it. I guess this looks like Jarrod's way of weeding out some of these bands. I don't know for sure, I really know nothing about Jarrod's and am still wondering why it's looked upon the way it is. He's been really cool to me over the past few weeks and we're considering playing there but I want to know why you all hate the place so much. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 7:17pm - SUBJUGATE ""] basicly he fucked us on a show read this for the full scoop http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/swbh/jarrods.html |
| __________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 7:36pm - Dissector ""] We can't play either. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 7:50pm - honor4death ""] in other words, jarrods place is the worst club in the world and id rather eat shit then go there again. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 2,2004 8:00pm - xmikex ""] Jarrods is a joke. Always has been. Always will be. If the "local scene" is "dying" then jarrods has been continually active in killing it over the last several years; booking awful shows, never promoting anything, hiring a bouncer staff that pulls stun guns on people, hits kids with flashlights, beats people for no reason, and fights people instead of breaking up fights. Has this Jarrod clown ever wondered why the Palladium is able to get such good shows with such consistantly good attendence with much much less problems? Does Jarrod wonder how Death Before Dishonor can play shows on a regular basis all around the country, yet the one time they came to Jarrods the entire Jarrods bouncer staff got beat the fuck up? The fact of the matter is that, MUCH LIKE THE TANK aka The H20 aka the Atlantic Lounge, its probably just a front for drug deals, and the actual shows mean nothing. I'm sure someone from the Jarrods staff will read this sooner or later. So just in case....Hey Jarrod. Fuck you. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 8:02pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] eating shit is arousing |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 8:06pm - honor4death ""] TheGreatSpaldino said:eating shit is arousing im sorry you think that. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 11:05pm - Terence ""] Come down to Jarrod's place for some hot nu-metal and cocaine! |
| ________________________________ [Jul 2,2004 11:21pm - Abbath ""] AND MASTAMINDZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 3,2004 8:09am - Joe/NotCommon ""] the scene is dying, aka nu-metal is finally on it's way out |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 4:51pm - JoeDavolla ""] Josh_hates_you said:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha those hip hop shows will change the dying scene i bet. and from that list id say that is why his "scene" is dead. well at least there is one good band on that list. Theres a "scene" in New England?? Where the fuck is it?? LMAO!!! |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 4:53pm - JoeDavolla ""] I prefer Jarrods over the Palladium.Its true that the Palladium definitly gets the better shows but at Jarrods you can smoke and theres reentry. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 4:57pm - JoeDavolla ""] Hey honor4death,Ive been to much worse clubs than Jarrods Place.The ELNGEE down in New London,CT is the biggest dive Ive been to.And down in Irvington,NJ the Cricket Club is just fuckin awful.And one more thing,"Metal" clubs are few and far between in MA,you cant be to picky about how "nice" the club is. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 5:42pm - SUBJUGATE ""] JoeDavolla said:one more thing,"Metal" clubs are few and far between in MA, you cant be to picky about how "nice" the club is. thats not really true and when club owners are banning bands for no reason and accusing them of things they did'nt do you have to take a stand and defend youself and your band. it's time the bands took back the scene and not let it get ruined by club owners who don't care about the bands or the scene sure you can |
| __________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 5:44pm - SUBJUGATE ""] JoeDavolla said:I prefer Jarrods over the Palladium.Its true that the Palladium definitly gets the better shows but at Jarrods you can smoke and theres reentry. thats the dumbest reason i have ever heard for liking a club and guess what theres a STATE WIDE SMOKING BAN IN MASSACHUSETTS NOW hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| __________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 5:48pm - SUBJUGATE ""] JoeDavolla said:Josh_hates_you said:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha those hip hop shows will change the dying scene i bet. and from that list id say that is why his "scene" is dead. well at least there is one good band on that list. Theres a "scene" in New England?? Where the fuck is it?? LMAO!!! the metal scene in new england is doing pretty good in my opinion and part of the reason why is cause people like joe of notcommon records and prophetless productions you should stop look and listen to the other bands in the area and you'd realize that theres is a great local metal scene around here |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 6:43pm - mike....... ""] the el n gee might not have been a nice club looks wise but it was a great place for shows, you could chill outside, it was cheap and the people running it were nice |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 8:17pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Siberian said:What exactly is so bad about Jarrod's? I've never been there but my friends band from up here has played there a couple times and they haven't said anything bad about the place. Just curious. here's my experience with that wretched shit hole in the earth we call jarrod's place: first off, my old band was booked there with some good bands since a fellow metalhead was allowed to select the bill...then whoever was doing the booking "forgot" about the show, so we were given another date. my band and i, as well as 10 of our friends flyered for the show all over the place, spread the word, even sold a few tickets, and the day before the show it was CANCELLED due to people not wanting to work on father's day. so we got another date, but half the bands originally booked were replaced by shitty radio rock wannabes with no crowd at all. to top it all off, at the show there were frayed and bare wires all over the place, the sound guy kept fucking with shit while playing, and when we told him to turn down the goddamn bass monitors he just turned them all up more and shut off the mic to my amp. fucking dumbasses. i'd like to play there again for the sole purpose of lighting it on fire. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 8:43pm - JoeDavolla ""] Yah the NE Metal scene is great,not!! I realized this when I went to see Mortician back in late 2003 at the Bombshelter and 50 people showed up. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 9:12pm - anonymous ""] i bet that if they played at the palladium more people whould have been there, the bombshelter is gay and i have never seen alot of people there |
| ________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 9:18pm - Terence ""] yeah thats true, the Bombshelter is not a happenin' place. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 9:22pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:here's my experience with that wretched shit hole in the earth we call jarrod's place: first off, my old band was booked there with some good bands since a fellow metalhead was allowed to select the bill...then whoever was doing the booking "forgot" about the show, so we were given another date. my band and i, as well as 10 of our friends flyered for the show all over the place, spread the word, even sold a few tickets, and the day before the show it was CANCELLED due to people not wanting to work on father's day. so we got another date, but half the bands originally booked were replaced by shitty radio rock wannabes with no crowd at all. to top it all off, at the show there were frayed and bare wires all over the place, the sound guy kept fucking with shit while playing, and when we told him to turn down the goddamn bass monitors he just turned them all up more and shut off the mic to my amp. fucking dumbasses. i'd like to play there again for the sole purpose of lighting it on fire. I can think of a half dozen other stories about that place almost exactly like this. Jarrod doesn't know what he's doing. It just makes this whole thing funnier to think that physically it's one of the better clubs in the state (maybe disregarding location). |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 4,2004 11:15pm - JoeDavolla ""] Why is the Bombshelter gay?? |
| __________________________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 12:02am - Disgruntled band member ""] JoeDavolla said:Why is the Bombshelter gay?? Cause Surge(club owner) doesn't give a rat's ass how many people show us as long as you sold your tickets. My band wasn't able to sell 1 ticket for that place because no one knew where the hell it was. We played the show and sure enough, no one was there. Not even for the other band. I got bitched out for 45 minutes by him and had to listen to him praise the other band for selling 40 tickets. YET NO ONE WAS THERE FOR EITHER BANDS. The club was empty the whole night, not one person. This is what happens when Mommy and Daddy buy 40 tickets. But hey, as long as Surge sees you made your quota, he's happy. The fact he has a drink named after Boomslang says it all. GAY! |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 12:06am - dread_104 ""] JoeDavolla said:I prefer Jarrods over the Palladium.Its true that the Palladium definitly gets the better shows but at Jarrods you can smoke and theres reentry. can't smoke anymore, as of today |
| ___________________________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 12:10am - Disgruntled band members ""] "The days of playing with bands you might not fit in with or bands that have no draw power are over." How about making it so there's no more entry once the show starts and no re-entry. I'm sure many of you will piss and moan at this but the fact is no one shows up untill their friend's band starts and they leave when they are done. This is how clubs are run in Florida and shows there are always packed. Unlike new england, people there have no choice but to be there early and stay late. I don't know about the rest of you but I just love seeing an empty room when I get to a show. Then see a shitload of people show up for one band only for them to leave when it comes time for the last bands. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 12:10am - dread_104 ""] yeah i just saw, jim already said that |
| ______________________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 4:08am - CandyStriperDeathOrgy ""] Hey guys, We've played at the BOMBSHELTER 4 times in the past year... The BELLADONNA show we did a few months ago had 250 people... Not bad. The EXCITER show we did a yaer ago had 200 people... Not bad. The headlining show we did a year ago last April had 220 people... Not bad. The only show that did shitty (because of a snowstorm last December) was MELIAH RAGE. This CANNIBAL CORPSE show ought to be packed!! Other shows that were packed or sold out at the BOMBSHELTER : CLUTCH, LIFE OF AGONY, REVEREND HORTON HEAT, HATEBREED and MADBALL. JARROD's : I don't care what some people say on this board... We've alway's been treated very well there... And, made money!! 'Cause, we did our work!! D.R.I. is looking pretty good at the end of July.... |
| __________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 4:41am - dyingmuse ""] Disgruntled band member said:JoeDavolla said:Why is the Bombshelter gay?? Cause Surge(club owner) doesn't give a rat's ass how many people show us as long as you sold your tickets. My band wasn't able to sell 1 ticket for that place because no one knew where the hell it was. We played the show and sure enough, no one was there. Not even for the other band. I got bitched out for 45 minutes by him and had to listen to him praise the other band for selling 40 tickets. YET NO ONE WAS THERE FOR EITHER BANDS. The club was empty the whole night, not one person. This is what happens when Mommy and Daddy buy 40 tickets. But hey, as long as Surge sees you made your quota, he's happy. The fact he has a drink named after Boomslang says it all. GAY! i say if you dont promote the show no one will go. you cant blame the bombshelter. we have had very very good night and bad nights. partially to serge booking us last minute and booking us with gay bands. if you dont promote than noone will go period. bands do have to do their work!!!! and other bands i wont mention have to stick around after their sets to support their fellow bands. i am doing a 2or 3 day fest there on halloween and ill say right now there WILL be loads of people there, because i will bust my ass to see this happen. by the way everyone must go to DOOM NATION at the BOMBSHELTER on HALLOWEEN. i have some fucking bad assed bands on this bill. ill let everyone know when its ready! and if there are bands looking to get on this bill let me know via email asap. shroud_of_bereavement@yahoo.com |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 8:08am - dirteecrayon ""] masta mindz?!?!?!? ugh i got hit on by the lead singer. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 8:23am - Joe/NotCommon ""] dyingmuse said:Disgruntled band member said:JoeDavolla said:Why is the Bombshelter gay?? Cause Surge(club owner) doesn't give a rat's ass how many people show us as long as you sold your tickets. My band wasn't able to sell 1 ticket for that place because no one knew where the hell it was. We played the show and sure enough, no one was there. Not even for the other band. I got bitched out for 45 minutes by him and had to listen to him praise the other band for selling 40 tickets. YET NO ONE WAS THERE FOR EITHER BANDS. The club was empty the whole night, not one person. This is what happens when Mommy and Daddy buy 40 tickets. But hey, as long as Surge sees you made your quota, he's happy. The fact he has a drink named after Boomslang says it all. GAY! i say if you dont promote the show no one will go. you cant blame the bombshelter. we have had very very good night and bad nights. partially to serge booking us last minute and booking us with gay bands. if you dont promote than noone will go period. bands do have to do their work!!!! and other bands i wont mention have to stick around after their sets to support their fellow bands. i am doing a 2or 3 day fest there on halloween and ill say right now there WILL be loads of people there, because i will bust my ass to see this happen. by the way everyone must go to DOOM NATION at the BOMBSHELTER on HALLOWEEN. i have some fucking bad assed bands on this bill. ill let everyone know when its ready! and if there are bands looking to get on this bill let me know via email asap. shroud_of_bereavement@yahoo.com argh, I wish you were booking DOOM NATION somewhere else, I am banned from the bomb shelter. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 10:35am - SUBJUGATE ""] i think clubs relying only on the bands to do the promotion for the shows is gay but that in no way means the bands should just sit on their hands either the reason why palldium shows do so well is cause they take out ad's in the phenoix and have em placed where they will be seen not hidden in the back where no one looks the size of 2 business cards i think the bombshelter could do well if it took out ad's in the boston pheonix. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 10:46am - Joe/NotCommon ""] i dont think the bomb shelter advertising in the phoenix would do much, unlike the Palladium, they aren't always booked with bigger tours. I think if a club has smaller underground and local shows booked, they should definately expect the promoter and bands to do most or all of the promotion. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 12:33pm - Mike Damone ""] Man some of you guys are too funny. Moaning and bitching because your bands suck and couldnt sellout a fucking pay toilet! So keep blaming Jarrod's and the Bombshelter because YOU suck. That makes lots of sense. All I read here are a bunch of bitter cry babys whose bands suck. Get one thing straight - the scene in New England is DEAD and has been DEAD for longer than most of you have even been playing in your pathetic excuses for metal bands. I'm 36 and have been going to underground shows since 1983, the scene of the past decade has been a fucking joke. People arent going to come to your local shows because you suck. Get it? Try working really hard, creating quality speed and death metal and not carbon copy crap. Dont get me wrong there are a handful of decent local metal bands. I dont want to single any bands out one way or another though. Someone mentioned how people show up late or come early and then leave. He's right. Ive been to headlining shows where all the local bands pack up and go home to mommy and daddy before the national headliner even hits the stage. What kind of support is that? Billy Milano made some funny comments about this at The Living Room a few months ago. Bottom line is stop pointing fingers and blaming others for YOUR failures. To those of you who do really work hard and play intense metal, keep it up and dont let anyone bring you down. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 12:36pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] if all the clubs operated like jarrod's place, then alot of really good bands wouldn't even get a chance to build a fanbase. A band doesn't have a huge draw when they first start out and people need to realize that before making stupid posts like Mike Damone |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 1:56pm - DocsAnthraxGirl ""] Up the iron's to Mike! I've never had a probably with working with Jarrod. One of my bands didn't do every well at the BombShelter, I got spoken to by Serge but I sucked it up instead of bitching about it. Selling tickets is hard for some bands, one of my bands included but they keep working at it and not bitching about these things on sites. My God, some of you sound worse than women with PMS. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 2:01pm - subjugate ""] DocsAnthraxGirl said:Up the iron's to Mike! I've never had a probably with working with Jarrod. One of my bands didn't do every well at the BombShelter, I got spoken to by Serge but I sucked it up instead of bitching about it. Selling tickets is hard for some bands, one of my bands included but they keep working at it and not bitching about these things on sites. My God, some of you sound worse than women with PMS. NEVER HUH !!!!!! how quickly we forget |
| __________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 2:05pm - subjugate ""] at least i'm seeing people's true colors now. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . learning who my friends are and arn't |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 2:14pm - intricateprocess ""] JoeDavolla said:Yah the NE Metal scene is great,not!! I realized this when I went to see Mortician back in late 2003 at the Bombshelter and 50 people showed up. cause mortician is the shittiest band ever |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 5,2004 10:29pm - DocsAnthraxGirl ""] No, see I haven't had the problem with Jarrod, you have. I tried helping you stay on the Meliah Rage bill. It was taking out of my hands when you went off on him on boards like this and the AAF site. Questioning a person's friendship in an e-mail is one thing questioning it on a board is another. That takes it too far and makes it personal. The reason I haven't gone to see you play in a long time, is because I have two jobs, I manage a band, and I help out some local bands in my area. But now I have a better reason why NOT to go. I'm a Jarrod's Whore, I admit it and I'm proud of it! |