Hockomock Swamp / Bridgewater Triangle Exploration
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[Jul 30,2009 11:27am - MikeOv ""]
manifest destiny = lol?
[Jul 30,2009 11:29am - arilliusbm ""]
I must say though, that because I live in middleboro (proposed area for the casino) the Wampanoags that I've seen are CAPE VERDIAN.
[Jul 30,2009 11:33am - MikeOv ""]
so they're not even indigenous to this land?
[Jul 30,2009 11:34am - goatcatalyst ""]
I wish I had an Indian burial ground to bury my ferrets in :(
And for the record - I'm only hostile towards Native Americans when I leave the casino down $100+ and I don't feel I was comped enough drinks. Otherwise, I celebrate their proud culture.
[Jul 30,2009 11:35am - pam ""]
arilliusbm said:I must say though, that because I live in middleboro (proposed area for the casino) the Wampanoags that I've seen are CAPE VERDIAN.
Not all. My husband and son are wamp.
[Jul 30,2009 11:35am - arilliusbm ""]
It's because somewhere down the line, their Cape Verdean relatives bred with the Wampanoags of Mashpee. The result? Not much different looking than your avereage Cape Verdean.
There was this one dude on the train wearing a Wampanoag Nation shirt last week and he was black with a fro. lol
[Jul 30,2009 11:36am - arilliusbm ""]
pam said:
arilliusbm said:I must say though, that because I live in middleboro (proposed area for the casino) the Wampanoags that I've seen are CAPE VERDIAN.
Not all. My husband and son are wamp.
Yea, not all. But a large amount of them are.
[Jul 30,2009 11:40am - pam ""]
arilliusbm said:It's because somewhere down the line, their Cape Verdean relatives bred with the Wampanoags of Mashpee. The result? Not much different looking than your avereage Cape Verdean.
There was this one dude on the train wearing a Wampanoag Nation shirt last week and he was black with a fro. lol
I can show you pics from their socials and pow-wow, they go from blonde/white to blackest black. There are also wamps that are half wamp, half Bermudan (is that a word?):
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That's one, they call em "Goombas" when they're dancing.
All my cousins are blends of Wamp and Portuguese. They look pretty injun:
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[Jul 30,2009 11:41am - pam ""]
Click the fail pictures, too lazy to fix.
[Jul 30,2009 11:43am - pam ""]
MikeOv said:so they're not even indigenous to this land?
Yes they are.
[Jul 30,2009 11:44am - arilliusbm ""]
Are there any pure bred wamps left?
The only time I really felt that the natives were still true to their roots, was when I was in Arizona in a Navajo Reservation. Most of them are extremely racist towards the "white man," but they still have their own identity. Not mocking the Wamps, not too familiar with how they run their stuff. But down in the southwest, the reservations are HUGE - bigger than Massachusetts and most of NE.
Up in North Dakota, if you're white and walking near the reservations up there, you better be prepared for a beatdown.
[Jul 30,2009 11:50am - MikeOv ""]
pam said:
MikeOv said:so they're not even indigenous to this land?
Yes they are.
I know Wampanoags are, I had just needed clarification because I thought he was saying straight up Cape Verdeans were trying to pass themselves off as such.
[Jul 30,2009 11:53am - pam ""]
arilliusbm said:Are there any pure bred wamps left?
The only time I really felt that the natives were still true to their roots, was when I was in Arizona in a Navajo Reservation. Most of them are extremely racist towards the "white man," but they still have their own identity. Not mocking the Wamps, not too familiar with how they run their stuff. But down in the southwest, the reservations are HUGE - bigger than Massachusetts and most of NE.
Up in North Dakota, if you're white and walking near the reservations up there, you better be prepared for a beatdown.
Not that I know of. You have to factor in that the Wamps were the first tribe to experience the white invasion so they had a jump-start on mixing blood. They were also the first to really try the whole integration bullshit when colonists were putting them in Euro clothes and teaching them English. The tribes out West not so much.
The Wamps were also a mostly "peaceful" tribe whereas the Western tribes were pretty fucking insane. I imagine they held the shit out of their ground.
Some of the Wamps are stupid racist like that, but the majority I've met are very cool. A friend that grew up in Mashpee said she used to get rocks chucked at her by the wamp teenagers for going to the local pond so there's pricks in the bunch no doubt.
My family especially are really involved and shit. I've got one cousin that can slay a deer, tan it's hide, make sinew string and bead you a chest piece with it. She's awesome, she works are Plymoth Plantation with the above pictured dudes.
[Jul 30,2009 11:55am - pam ""]
MikeOv said:
pam said:
MikeOv said:so they're not even indigenous to this land?
Yes they are.
I know Wampanoags are, I had just needed clarification because I thought he was saying straight up Cape Verdeans were trying to pass themselves off as such.
I thought you meant mixed Cape Verds/Wamps.
They probably got away with that shit before, but since the Wamps FINALLY got federally recognized they've clamped down on the tribal roll requirements. It's REALLY difficult to prove your heritage because natives weren't people and have little paper trail in that respect so it'd be pretty difficult to be a tribe member if you aren't or just had one distant relative fuck one.
[Jul 30,2009 11:57am - arilliusbm ""]
I've got a little Micmac in me - one of my French Canadian fur-trapping relatives screwed one I guess. awesome
[Jul 30,2009 11:59am - MikeOv ""]
According to Stephen King, Micmac indian burial grounds are no joke.
[Jul 30,2009 11:59am - pam ""]
arilliusbm said:I've got a little Micmac in me - one of my French Canadian fur-trapping relatives screwed one I guess. awesome
Me too! 5 generations back from family word of mouth...I'm trying to track it down.
[Jul 30,2009 12:00pm - pam ""]
Micmacs were pretty crazy from what I've read. My daughter has Narragansett...who were also murderous crazy people I believe.
[Jul 31,2009 8:58am - MikeOv ""]
Bump for ritual sacrifice to the old gods.
[Jul 18,2010 10:15pm - arilliusbm ""]
MikeOv said:Bump for ritual sacrifice to the old gods.
This proposal still stands. I've been hiking a lot this summer; I'm looking to venture in here again because of the atmosphere. Not during the day though.
Let's go people, 3 threads of talking and no one going! :point:
[Jul 18,2010 10:31pm - arilliusbm ""]
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[Jul 19,2010 5:21am - goatcatalyst ""]
There is no such thing as the Bridgewater Triangle.
[Jul 19,2010 7:36am - arilliusbm ""]
find out for yourself or you're a pussy
[Mar 18,2011 12:24pm - arilliusbm ""]
Bump. Spring is nearing and it's the perfect to time to check it out
[Mar 18,2011 12:31pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i wanna go!
[Mar 18,2011 1:20pm - Randy Marsh nli ""]
I need to go here again soon and venture deeper.
[Mar 18,2011 1:21pm - Yeti ""]
only King Philip is real.
[Mar 18,2011 1:28pm - dreadkill ""]
pam said:
arilliusbm said:I've got a little Micmac in me - one of my French Canadian fur-trapping relatives screwed one I guess. awesome
Me too! 5 generations back from family word of mouth...I'm trying to track it down. i gots a little abenaki
[Mar 18,2011 2:13pm - arilliusbm ""]
god dammit, I'm starting a Hockomock/Bridgewater Triangle themed black metal band. It's about time.
[Mar 18,2011 2:46pm - randy marsh nli ""]
arilliusbm said:god dammit, I'm starting a Hockomock/Bridgewater Triangle themed black metal band. It's about time.
i will do this.
[Mar 18,2011 2:51pm - arilliusbm ""]
Also, DIGHTON ROCK lies within the triangle. Last summer I went there and it was nice and peaceful.
Mysterious markings on a very old rock? You better believe it.
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[Mar 18,2011 2:53pm - randy marsh nli ""]
aril, i told you about when i went there right?
didn't venture too far in...heard "sheething" sounds coming from inside the swamp along with very strange noises...i wanted to go further in but my friend who was driving was being a bitch and wanted to go home cause he didnt want to get his shoes went or something gay like that.
[Mar 18,2011 2:58pm - arilliusbm ""]
randy%20marsh%20nli said:aril, i told you about when i went there right?
didn't venture too far in...heard "sheething" sounds coming from inside the swamp along with very strange noises...i wanted to go further in but my friend who was driving was being a bitch and wanted to go home cause he didnt want to get his shoes went or something gay like that.
was it burnsy? hahaha, I kheed I kheed.
what is a sheething sound?
[Mar 18,2011 2:59pm - randy marsh nli ""]
no it wasnt burnsy but i remember telling him about this and trying to convince him to go.
like sheathing of a blade.
[Mar 18,2011 3:07pm - arilliusbm ""]
interesting.
i've seen "investigative" webpages talk about the hockomock. they usually go there during the day (most "paranormal" stuff occurs very late at night and very early in the morning) and brush it off as another swamp.
that it may be, but there is something different about this place. It's hard to explain, but I could feel something there. I can understand why the natives admired it like they did.
perhaps there is a nexus point somewhere in the swamp? maybe an undocumented ley line or some sort? regardless, there is energy there, both negative and positive. it'd be a great place to meditate and/or take hallucinogens.
[Mar 18,2011 3:08pm - randy marsh nli ""]
im trying to get Notshaver to go, we had talked about it in the past.
would like to try and get to the middle and bring some sort of videotaping device....
if i saw the ghost dog or the giant bird my life would be complete.
[Mar 18,2011 3:12pm - arilliusbm ""]
i must say though, not sure how it is during late winter/early spring.. but in the summer time there's quicksand everywhere. I had my whole leg get stuck in a puddle of quicksand or, rather quickmud. It was pretty fucked up and surprised the hell out of me when it happened.
[Mar 18,2011 3:13pm - burnsy ""]
arilliusbm said:was it burnsy? hahaha, I kheed I kheed.
lulz. It appears that my neighborhood lies within the vertex of the eponymous Bridgewater triangle.
[Mar 18,2011 3:14pm - Alx_Casket ""]
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[Mar 18,2011 3:15pm - randy marsh nli ""]
arilliusbm said:i must say though, not sure how it is during late winter/early spring.. but in the summer time there's quicksand everywhere. I had my whole leg get stuck in a puddle of quicksand or, rather quickmud. It was pretty fucked up and surprised the hell out of me when it happened.
yeah i went about this time last year...it was quite muddy.
[Jun 12,2011 8:02pm - arilliusbm ""]
lol, I just did a google image search for "hockmock swamp" and the dighton rock image links back to this thread. SKYNET...cool story bro
anyway, a hockmock adventure will happen real soon, for those who care.
[Apr 4,2012 1:41pm - Scully ""]
http://ufos.about.com/od/ufos2012mar/a/Man...Encounter-Ufos-In-Massachusetts.htm
[Apr 4,2012 1:45pm - arillius_the_white ""]
Thought I saw something a few weeks ago.
[Apr 4,2012 2:00pm - Alx_Casket ""]
sure it wasn't just some balrog?
[Aug 20,2012 10:45am - MikeOv ""]
This weekend.
Who's in?
[Aug 20,2012 10:53am - trioxin245 ""]
I'm down.
[Aug 20,2012 10:54am - arilliusbm ""]
This weekend = our show
[Aug 20,2012 10:55am - arilliusbm ""]
Also, I dunno where ya'll been at but some funky shit going down
[Aug 20,2012 10:57am - MikeOv ""]
Elaborate.
[Aug 20,2012 10:58am - MikeOv ""]
We need to hit up Freetown-Fall River State Forest as well. Maybe we'll stumble upon satanic cult activities.