fucking drug tests...arghh!!![views:6794][posts:105]_______________________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 6:55pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] ok now that was just dumb |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 6:56pm - HailTheLeaf ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said: since ive known you, you held the microphone job for what a week or two but they let you go cause the company folded, and the computer thing i dont know what you're talking about. i dont think peeing in a cup for a job is bending over, esp when i can buy my rent and feed myself. if i was asked to take one monthly or daily then itd be different the mic job was 4 months, but whatever..the computer thing...ha I got paid more than a lawyer but it wasn't worth it...you'd have to pay me more to ever enter a walmart again |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 6:56pm - the_reverend ""] I'm not reading all that. but if you are working around drugs, they want to make sure you aren't going to fill you pockets with ruffies and oxy. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 6:58pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] HailTheLeaf said:ha I got paid more than a lawyer but it wasn't worth it...you'd have to pay me more to ever enter a walmart again oh you meant NCR, the company that still hasnt paid you. ok, cool you had jobs go get another one |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 6:58pm - HailTheLeaf ""] the_reverend said:I'm not reading all that. but if you are working around drugs, they want to make sure you aren't going to fill you pockets with ruffies and oxy. it's a technical support CS job at the headquarters, nowhere near a pharmacy |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 6:59pm - HailTheLeaf ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:HailTheLeaf said:ha I got paid more than a lawyer but it wasn't worth it...you'd have to pay me more to ever enter a walmart again oh you meant NCR, the company that still hasnt paid you. ok, cool you had jobs go get another one yeah, those fuckers...hey, Sean, we're you out of work for awhile before Best Buy? |
| _______________________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 7:02pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] yup, needed a second job while i worked at UPS. you're acting like thats a big deal or something. the fact youre going on three months with no job, and whining over peeing in a cup. yeah now thats a big deal |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 7:07pm - HailTheLeaf ""] hey I never gave you shit when you were on unemployment for months, so bite me. If you're gonna do drugs at all at least stand up for it, christ. This is the 2nd time in 10 years I've had to turn down a job because of drug testing and that's not alot, but it's bullshit. If no one caved in, they've have no one to hire and have to change their policies, but too many people crack and allow them to continue to make people pee in cups. Now, I'm gonna go smoke a joint. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 7:12pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] haha yeah i was also going to school, mmm clark u, the u mean you too can have a degree collect dust. and my unemployment came from after working two years at wellesley college. getting unemployment to go to school, yeah productive getting unemployment and sitting on your ass yeah ok |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 8:28pm - ArrowHead nli ""] HailTheLeaf said:ArrowHead nli said:By the way, stop with the rights crap. The constitution isn't applicable, there's no charges being made against you. You're just pissed a pharmacy won't hire your hippy ass. Hey, you can let your employer walk all over you, that's fine, go ahead maybe they'll implant chips in you next. fucking sheep. Actually, I tend to look at things a little differently than you. Where you see my employers walking all over me, I saw myself buying my first home at 23, with no college degree and little education. Where you see your rights being infringed, I see opportunity for self sufficience being wasted, and you being a leech on parents, or worse ME by collecting from the government. Frankly, if you're unemployed and not willing to get any available job to try and support yourself, then you're the sheep. I hire, fire, and pass over people like yourself weekly, sometimes daily. Get a job. Pay your bills. Move out of your parents house, and learn to be an adult. Then, and only then, can you start making stances on how you feel about drug testing and employment practices. And drug testing, again, is in no way a legal violation of your fourth amemdment rights. Not only a lazy hippie, but you're an ignorant lazy hippie. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 8:30pm - ArrowHead nli ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said: getting unemployment to go to school, yeah productive getting unemployment and sitting on your ass yeah ok I agree with this heartily. I wish 100% of the people collecting government entitlements had this attitude. Maybe the system would actually start working. People just don't understand responsibility, or the idea of carrying your own weight. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 8:36pm - ArrowHead nli ""] One more thing I need to add about this thread. When I see a fucking warrior like Nate getting out there, moving away from family, waking up every day and working a job paying too little doing something he doesn't like, just to show some responsiblity and carry his family's and own weight against incredibly harsh odds; When I see people like this every day, and realize that 1/3 of those taxes, hundreds and thousands of those warriors hard earned money goes to supporting idealist hippies like yourself bleeding the welfare and unemployment systems dry without even ATTEMPTING to correct their situation; goddamn, I honestly don't know what to say. Rare for me. It makes me fucking sick, but I can't even think of any possible way to convey how fucking much. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 8:40pm - DomesticTerror ""] HailTheLeaf said:If no one caved in, they've have no one to hire and have to change their policies, but too many people crack and allow them to continue to make people pee in cups. they could hire me. i don't do illegal drugs. i'm not saying that makes me better than anyone (...before anyone goes on a tangent), just means if a drug user wants to pass up a job, us non users will take it. it's really a non-issue to me. btw, no one is making you pee in a cup. you have the option to say no. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 9:07pm - the_reverend ""] there are places around pvd that will pay you more just to piss in a cup. or so I hear |
| _____________________________ [Jan 9,2006 9:17pm - Nate ""] ArrowHead nli said:One more thing I need to add about this thread. When I see a fucking warrior like Nate getting out there, moving away from family, waking up every day and working a job paying too little doing something he doesn't like, just to show some responsiblity and carry his family's and own weight against incredibly harsh odds; When I see people like this every day, and realize that 1/3 of those taxes, hundreds and thousands of those warriors hard earned money goes to supporting idealist hippies like yourself bleeding the welfare and unemployment systems dry without even ATTEMPTING to correct their situation; goddamn, I honestly don't know what to say. Rare for me. It makes me fucking sick, but I can't even think of any possible way to convey how fucking much. whoah, I appreciate the remarks. But warrior I am not. Just someone who's responsible enough to take my life into my own hands and do something about it, not wait for someone else to do something for me. But like you were also saying, I could go on and on about this as well, but I'm gonna let my part of the argument die because, well... some people never get it and want to blame someone else, or the government for the inadequacies (is that a word?). Thanks again though. On a side note Arrowhead, how's the disc been going? Has the label been in touch with any info on it as far as tracking sales and shit?? |
| _____________________________ [Jan 9,2006 9:26pm - Mary ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:Maery said:Goddamn it. Just answer the question? Is it like a percentage? Tell me!?!??!!?! *cough* i have a multipass Wtf does that mean? |
| ______________________________ [Jan 9,2006 9:28pm - eddie ""] i don't see why this is a big deal. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 9,2006 10:24pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] Mary said:whiskey_weed_and_women said:Maery said:Goddamn it. Just answer the question? Is it like a percentage? Tell me!?!??!!?! *cough* i have a multipass Wtf does that mean? it means i was watching the fifth element and didnt have a good answer |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 11:24am - HailTheLeaf ""] ArrowHead nli said:HailTheLeaf said:ArrowHead nli said:By the way, stop with the rights crap. The constitution isn't applicable, there's no charges being made against you. You're just pissed a pharmacy won't hire your hippy ass. Hey, you can let your employer walk all over you, that's fine, go ahead maybe they'll implant chips in you next. fucking sheep. Actually, I tend to look at things a little differently than you. Where you see my employers walking all over me, I saw myself buying my first home at 23, with no college degree and little education. Where you see your rights being infringed, I see opportunity for self sufficience being wasted, and you being a leech on parents, or worse ME by collecting from the government. Frankly, if you're unemployed and not willing to get any available job to try and support yourself, then you're the sheep. I hire, fire, and pass over people like yourself weekly, sometimes daily. Get a job. Pay your bills. Move out of your parents house, and learn to be an adult. Then, and only then, can you start making stances on how you feel about drug testing and employment practices. And drug testing, again, is in no way a legal violation of your fourth amemdment rights. Not only a lazy hippie, but you're an ignorant lazy hippie. I live in my own apartment, not with my parents, I'm not leeching off anyone, I sell stock to survive at the moment. I paid into the unemployment I collect, you don't. I'll get a job when I find the one I want, you can settle for less, go right ahead. Until then I won't compromise myself for whatever breadcrumbs a corporate entity throws at me, when they say jump, I don't say 'how high'? I think for myself. Drug testing is a clear violation of my rights and privacy, the government, nor any other corporation has the right to know what's in my body, end of story. You're the ignorant one if you don't know your rights or stand up for them. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 11:46am - Joe/NotCommon ""] I think companies have the right to know something about the person they are hiring, and so I don't think drug tests are a big issue for work. Anyways, there are ways around beating drug tests (which someone probably already mentioned). What kind of job are you hoping to get? For me a job is just something I do to make everything else I want to do possible. Sort of like a necesarry evil, but I don't even really think evil is the word. I barely give work a second thought once I am out for the day. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 11:52am - succubus ""] arrowhead and joe make good points |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 12:02pm - Josh_Martin ""] ArrowHead nli said: Actually, the only way cocaine (or crack) will show up on a pee test is if you were fucking a big pile of coke right before taking the test. This is why I personally wash my dick whenever I have to pee in a cup. That is 100% wrong. You can ask my old probation officer about that. Trust me, you are totally wrong. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 12:23pm - the_reverend ""] ssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh! the 16yos around woburn are happy that he actually sometimes has a reason to wash his dick. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 12:59pm - hutch ""] get some gold seal. that is bullshit |
| ________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 1:13pm - ndeath ""] Im sure most companies dont want drug addicts working for them.Stop using drugs.Your not in high school anymore LOL!!! |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 11:21pm - ArrowHead nli ""] HailTheLeaf said: I live in my own apartment, not with my parents, I'm not leeching off anyone, I sell stock to survive at the moment. I paid into the unemployment I collect, you don't. I'll get a job when I find the one I want, you can settle for less, go right ahead. Until then I won't compromise myself for whatever breadcrumbs a corporate entity throws at me, when they say jump, I don't say 'how high'? I think for myself. Drug testing is a clear violation of my rights and privacy, the government, nor any other corporation has the right to know what's in my body, end of story. You're the ignorant one if you don't know your rights or stand up for them. I do know my rights. You don't. This entire thread is proof positive. As far as corporate america being out to get you? You're right. Might as well kill yourself now, rather than endure a future of persecution, eh? Now that you're done, go get a fucking job, you useless hippy. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 11:24pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Josh_Martin said:ArrowHead nli said: Actually, the only way cocaine (or crack) will show up on a pee test is if you were fucking a big pile of coke right before taking the test. This is why I personally wash my dick whenever I have to pee in a cup. That is 100% wrong. You can ask my old probation officer about that. Trust me, you are totally wrong. Unfortunately for your probation officer, I'm right. Heroine will test as an opiate, which is not screened on piss tests due to the number of legal food and drink that will yield the same results. Coke won't show at all, unless you're using frequently and in large enough amounts that it's not all taken into your bloodstream. This is RARE. Your probation officer lied to you, sorry. With probation, testing positive for ANY opiate is another story, since it violates terms. Therefore, no poppy bagels and tea for you! |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 11:26pm - ArrowHead nli ""] HailTheLeaf said: the government, nor any other corporation has the right to know what's in my body, end of story. You are correct. However, they DO have the right to ask you to CONSENT to a test as a condition of employment. Thank christ you're not a lawyer. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 10,2006 11:31pm - ArrowHead nli ""] http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/cocaine/clearurine.htm Josh Martin, here's a link for you. It explains my point about coke in urine tests a lot more scientifically than I ever could. As you can see, much like a breathalyzer test (which tests for acids, not alcohol), It's not coke that shows up but rather a byproduct. Most companies will avoid positive results for these products, since they are not proof positive of usage. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 8:56am - Josh_Martin ""] ArrowHead nli said:Josh_Martin said:ArrowHead nli said: Actually, the only way cocaine (or crack) will show up on a pee test is if you were fucking a big pile of coke right before taking the test. This is why I personally wash my dick whenever I have to pee in a cup. That is 100% wrong. You can ask my old probation officer about that. Trust me, you are totally wrong. Unfortunately for your probation officer, I'm right. Heroine will test as an opiate, which is not screened on piss tests due to the number of legal food and drink that will yield the same results. Coke won't show at all, unless you're using frequently and in large enough amounts that it's not all taken into your bloodstream. This is RARE. Your probation officer lied to you, sorry. With probation, testing positive for ANY opiate is another story, since it violates terms. Therefore, no poppy bagels and tea for you! Nowhere in the link you provided does it say that coke won't show up unless you are using frequently. It says it takes 3-5 days for it to completely leave your bloodstream. That is correct. I've been through this shit a million times man., Trust me. Its a lot easier than you think. I flunked a test after doing a small amount of coke the night before. I must've not done the water thing right 'cause it worked every other time. And they absolutely DO test for opiates. They can even tell whether you used heroin or just a lesser form of opiate. I don't know where you are getting your info but its not accurate. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 9:14am - Arthur_ATD ""] lazy fucking hippies |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 9:37am - JayTUS nli ""] To make sure I pass drug tests... I... don't do drugs... which last time I checked are not legal in this country... |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 9:55am - Joe/NotCommon ""] JayTUS nli said:To make sure I pass drug tests... I... don't do drugs... which last time I checked are not legal in this country... GO RED SOX! |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 9:57am - scoracrasia ""] I work with dead people. They are no hassle. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:19pm - HailTheLeaf ""] JayTUS nli said:To make sure I pass drug tests... I... don't do drugs... which last time I checked are not legal in this country... well, aren't you special? plenty of drugs are legal in this country, and they kill many more people every year than the illegal ones, so I think I'll do my own research and decide what to do and what not to do myself. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:24pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Josh_Martin said:ArrowHead nli said:Josh_Martin said:ArrowHead nli said: Actually, the only way cocaine (or crack) will show up on a pee test is if you were fucking a big pile of coke right before taking the test. This is why I personally wash my dick whenever I have to pee in a cup. That is 100% wrong. You can ask my old probation officer about that. Trust me, you are totally wrong. Unfortunately for your probation officer, I'm right. Heroine will test as an opiate, which is not screened on piss tests due to the number of legal food and drink that will yield the same results. Coke won't show at all, unless you're using frequently and in large enough amounts that it's not all taken into your bloodstream. This is RARE. Your probation officer lied to you, sorry. With probation, testing positive for ANY opiate is another story, since it violates terms. Therefore, no poppy bagels and tea for you! Nowhere in the link you provided does it say that coke won't show up unless you are using frequently. It says it takes 3-5 days for it to completely leave your bloodstream. That is correct. I've been through this shit a million times man., Trust me. Its a lot easier than you think. I flunked a test after doing a small amount of coke the night before. I must've not done the water thing right 'cause it worked every other time. And they absolutely DO test for opiates. They can even tell whether you used heroin or just a lesser form of opiate. I don't know where you are getting your info but its not accurate. Read the first couple sentences again. It's not coke that shows up, rather a byproduct of the metabolisization (sp?) of the coke. Considered a failure by the courts, not counted by employers. The only exception I've ever heard of is class A drivers, who will fail with a positive result for coke. Opiates all show up as the same thing. Heroin, opium, etc... all leave traces of the same material which is also contained in other poppy products, like poppy seeds (used in teas and bagels and stuff). Again, any positive result is considered a failure by the courts, but is not considered by most employers. There was a lawsuit around 10 years ago, a boston company turned down hundreds of employees in a very short term due to testing positive for opiates. They launched a class action suit, turned out everyone involved in the suit had eaten poppyseed bagels at the dunkin donuts across the street from the clinic shortly before testing. Since then, I've never heard of companies piss testing and screening for opiates. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:25pm - HailTheLeaf ""] ArrowHead nli said:HailTheLeaf said: I live in my own apartment, not with my parents, I'm not leeching off anyone, I sell stock to survive at the moment. I paid into the unemployment I collect, you don't. I'll get a job when I find the one I want, you can settle for less, go right ahead. Until then I won't compromise myself for whatever breadcrumbs a corporate entity throws at me, when they say jump, I don't say 'how high'? I think for myself. Drug testing is a clear violation of my rights and privacy, the government, nor any other corporation has the right to know what's in my body, end of story. You're the ignorant one if you don't know your rights or stand up for them. I do know my rights. You don't. This entire thread is proof positive. As far as corporate america being out to get you? You're right. Might as well kill yourself now, rather than endure a future of persecution, eh? Now that you're done, go get a fucking job, you useless hippy. wow, you just don't pay attention do you? I've been trying to find a job for 3 months, but you know so much about me, you figure I've been sitting around doing nothing. I bet you've never been laid off, had an employer fuck you over and refuse to pay you, or have been out of work for more than a day right? Everyone can just walk right out and fing a job that will support them easily right? that's why the economy is sooo great right now, right? fuck off. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:28pm - Yeti ""] then get 2 jobs. work at a convenience store during the day, and a McDonalds at night. its not that difficult. all the while looking for a better paying job. you do what you have to do. after carefully weighing the evidence, i would have to say your problem is what has been said since the beginning. laziness. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:29pm - ArrowHead nli ""] By the way, as far as where I get my info, I worked as management for a company that began to require screening after I was hired. I was never tested myself (grandfathered), but I had to go over test results for the people who were hired afterwards. The only results we counted were pot, coke and heroin were discounted or a second screening was requested. If the results showed up on the second screening as well (about a week later) then the applicant was not hired. p.s. - another loop for our paranoid hippy friend: sometimes if the applicant looked REALLY good, or had good experience, we'd hire them even when they DID fail. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:31pm - HailTheLeaf ""] I had 2 jobs, one decided to start shit by sending me back to places I'd already done, and stopped sending my checks on time, (I started waiting a month for a check) the other paid a whopping $8.50/hour and fired me for a shipping mistake the 3rd week I was there, so much for a learning curve. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:35pm - HailTheLeaf ""] ArrowHead nli said:By the way, as far as where I get my info, I worked as management for a company that began to require screening after I was hired. I was never tested myself (grandfathered), but I had to go over test results for the people who were hired afterwards. The only results we counted were pot, coke and heroin were discounted or a second screening was requested. If the results showed up on the second screening as well (about a week later) then the applicant was not hired. p.s. - another loop for our paranoid hippy friend: sometimes if the applicant looked REALLY good, or had good experience, we'd hire them even when they DID fail. That's actually great news, although I doubt your company is in the majority there. I'm against testing altogether, but that shows more common sense. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:35pm - ArrowHead nli ""] HailTheLeaf said: wow, you just don't pay attention do you? I've been trying to find a job for 3 months, but you know so much about me, you figure I've been sitting around doing nothing. I bet you've never been laid off, had an employer fuck you over and refuse to pay you, or have been out of work for more than a day right? Everyone can just walk right out and fing a job that will support them easily right? that's why the economy is sooo great right now, right? fuck off. I could find you a job in two seconds. Maybe not at your desired salary, and maybe not doing the work you want to be doing, but you'd have income and benefits. Three months is pathetic. Go work at McDonalds, Exxon, or some other shit job so you can at least pull your own weight. The funniest thing is, the longer you're out of work, the more employers are going to be hesitant about that blank gap on your resume. I'd rather hire a kid that worked 3 months at Burger King than someone who went three months doing NOTHING. Again, it's you that doesn't get it. You're surrounded by people in this thread giving you good, sensible advice. Meanwhile, you think you've got it all figured out. Good for you. Your plan seems to be working so well, striving hard for those $12 an hour jobs at CVS. Holding out for something good, are ya? I already said in this thread, I HAVE been out of work. I HAVE been dicked by employers. However, I rebounded a hell of a lot quicker than you have. Sure, you can argue it's because I'm a smarter applicant with better experience and an all around stronger work ethic, but I'd like to think it's just because you're not looking hard enough. Who knows though, maybe you ARE an un-hireable douche, I wouldn't know. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:39pm - ArrowHead nli ""] HailTheLeaf said: That's actually great news, although I doubt your company is in the majority there. I'm against testing altogether, but that shows more common sense. I know what you're saying, but trust me, this company was horrible to work for. It was a gas station franchise that no longer exists, but they were owned by HOOD milk (I forget the actual company name) and that company is a bunch of fucking nazi's. The district manager stole money out of my safe, then fired me for it. He did it like 8 more times over 3 year, and the dumbass company only figured it out after he took $5000 in deposits out of a store, went home, and never returned again. If any of you have the displeasure of knowing the fat fuck, his name was Roger Nadeu. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:43pm - succubus ""] this job didn't test me and only recently started doing criminal checks...i guess that's why a (former) child molester works with me |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:43pm - ArrowHead nli ""] I WANT THIS SHIRT!!!!!!!!!!!! [img] |
| __________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:45pm - succubus ""] i'll chip in a $1 towards it! |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 1:45pm - ArrowHead nli ""] succubus said:this job didn't test me and only recently started doing criminal checks...i guess that's why a (former) child molester works with me I've seen that a lot at the company I work for now. One guy used his middle name as his first, and that got him through the screening process. We found out when a girl working in the hair shop in our plaza recognized him on the internet pedophile database, and made fliers with his picture on it, saying how he had been convicted of raping his OWN KIDS, and put one on the windshield of every car in the lot. She even left a big stack right inside the store where this guy was working. Needless to say, he was fired before I got a chance to stab him in the eyeballs. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 2:35pm - Josh_Martin ""] ArrowHead nli said:Josh_Martin said:ArrowHead nli said:Josh_Martin said:ArrowHead nli said: Actually, the only way cocaine (or crack) will show up on a pee test is if you were fucking a big pile of coke right before taking the test. This is why I personally wash my dick whenever I have to pee in a cup. That is 100% wrong. You can ask my old probation officer about that. Trust me, you are totally wrong. Unfortunately for your probation officer, I'm right. Heroine will test as an opiate, which is not screened on piss tests due to the number of legal food and drink that will yield the same results. Coke won't show at all, unless you're using frequently and in large enough amounts that it's not all taken into your bloodstream. This is RARE. Your probation officer lied to you, sorry. With probation, testing positive for ANY opiate is another story, since it violates terms. Therefore, no poppy bagels and tea for you! Nowhere in the link you provided does it say that coke won't show up unless you are using frequently. It says it takes 3-5 days for it to completely leave your bloodstream. That is correct. I've been through this shit a million times man., Trust me. Its a lot easier than you think. I flunked a test after doing a small amount of coke the night before. I must've not done the water thing right 'cause it worked every other time. And they absolutely DO test for opiates. They can even tell whether you used heroin or just a lesser form of opiate. I don't know where you are getting your info but its not accurate. Read the first couple sentences again. It's not coke that shows up, rather a byproduct of the metabolisization (sp?) of the coke. Considered a failure by the courts, not counted by employers. The only exception I've ever heard of is class A drivers, who will fail with a positive result for coke. Opiates all show up as the same thing. Heroin, opium, etc... all leave traces of the same material which is also contained in other poppy products, like poppy seeds (used in teas and bagels and stuff). Again, any positive result is considered a failure by the courts, but is not considered by most employers. There was a lawsuit around 10 years ago, a boston company turned down hundreds of employees in a very short term due to testing positive for opiates. They launched a class action suit, turned out everyone involved in the suit had eaten poppyseed bagels at the dunkin donuts across the street from the clinic shortly before testing. Since then, I've never heard of companies piss testing and screening for opiates. I don't know about companies. The only job I ever had to pee in a cup for, I used someone elses piss. But when your on Probation you can't do that. They stand there and watch you piss. I guess the courts use a stricter test than employers do because they can tell if it was heroin or just some other opiate. That is wicked fucking gay that someone could get turned down for pot, yet a complete heroin junkie or crackhead will get hired. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 11,2006 2:40pm - ArrowHead nli ""] A kid that worked for me in brockton was a junkie. I suspected, but didn't really believe he was on anything so harsh. He od'ed last year. 17 years old, that's fucked up. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 11,2006 3:15pm - Yeti ""] was his name by chance Frank Snow? |